I believe it's just discrimination. All over Cali, no matter where you go, you'll see sewereno rap. But in southern Cali, you'll be lucky to find at least 1 Norteno related CD. Many Norteno cd's are banned from store shelves or the store vender won't sell the product. Some believe it's too gang related. Maybe so.......but, we deserve to be on all shelves just like all those sewereno rappers. Yea, I'll spit on their CD's when I see them showcased as a good cd at Sam Goody's. Everybody does up here....no lie. I know homies who will by the cd's just to break'em. I guess we've got too much pride. But our pride is what keeps us going to be big without any obstacles holding us back. The only obstacle we've got is our strong gang affiliation. We can't help it. It's just our natural nature. Several plans are in the works for a new generation of Norteno rap as we speak here in the 209. We will make a statement and we've already made 1 big one as of yet: We contain the largest rap group in history "Minority Militia"........and we just happen to be in Guinness World Records now......so check us out when next year's edition pops out. We're slowly moving up the ranks......we will be ontop when nobody least expected it.......late
serious question for woodie
- Thread starter Knucklez
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He probably doesn't think of Nortenos as real life enemies since he never runs into any... so to him, it's OK to appreciate Woodie's raps and skill up until the parts where he is obviously dissing Southerners.
It would be discrimination if it wasn't sold down here at all and even then, it's up to the store whether or not they choose to sell it and there is no legal way to force them to sell anything.
All over Cali you see both Sureno and Norteno rap. There are actually many many Norteno cd's down here, and I don't know how well they sell or not, but they ARE here; unlike their most likely consumers (aside from the few who are here but don't bang since there is actual opposition here). Being that there arent any known Norteno gangs down here or actively banging Northerners, the fact that the stores re-stock Norte related CD's is remarkable. Ex-, visiting, or dormant Northsiders must be buying them in secret though, or they would be gone altogether. Sureno CD's are all over the state because there are more Surenos and wannabe Surenos out there as a whole and thus; more demand for the music.
So you say they buy Sur cds up there just to stomp the fuck out of em? That's not doing anything but lining the artists pockets but do what you will.
It would be discrimination if it wasn't sold down here at all and even then, it's up to the store whether or not they choose to sell it and there is no legal way to force them to sell anything.
All over Cali you see both Sureno and Norteno rap. There are actually many many Norteno cd's down here, and I don't know how well they sell or not, but they ARE here; unlike their most likely consumers (aside from the few who are here but don't bang since there is actual opposition here). Being that there arent any known Norteno gangs down here or actively banging Northerners, the fact that the stores re-stock Norte related CD's is remarkable. Ex-, visiting, or dormant Northsiders must be buying them in secret though, or they would be gone altogether. Sureno CD's are all over the state because there are more Surenos and wannabe Surenos out there as a whole and thus; more demand for the music.
So you say they buy Sur cds up there just to stomp the fuck out of em? That's not doing anything but lining the artists pockets but do what you will.
Yea, they got extrac flow in their pockets on a day to day basis. There comes rewards when you put in plenty of work like they do. Plus they do their slangin' on the side so you know how they be making their skrill. They always be having a gang of money but don't be wasting it stupid like buying shoes every week & wasting $90 on Fubu pants and buying jewelry. I myself just waste $200 towards clothes each month. All the rest of the lil' money I got goes towards my CD's & wants and needs. Or if I got a lady (which I do) take her out to nice places and give her the world. Like I tell all the homies, "I'm ballin' on a budget" lol
Well, holla back yal. I like reading everyone's opinions and posts. Latez........
Well, holla back yal. I like reading everyone's opinions and posts. Latez........
@Jim Hat
Beats me. I don't be wasting my money on that skrap bullshit. I strictly stick to Blood & Norteno music. There's like 1 or 2 crips I'm koo wit, but they're from Low Down. lil' Wyno is one of them. I'm koo with homies who got Norte's back. The thing is, you never know when they'll turn their back on you. D.T.A. Don't Trust Anybody. One....
Beats me. I don't be wasting my money on that skrap bullshit. I strictly stick to Blood & Norteno music. There's like 1 or 2 crips I'm koo wit, but they're from Low Down. lil' Wyno is one of them. I'm koo with homies who got Norte's back. The thing is, you never know when they'll turn their back on you. D.T.A. Don't Trust Anybody. One....
What???!
"I know homies who will by the cd's just to break'em. I guess we've got too much pride." - (Rid Bone)
Thas fucken hillarious man not only did u just make that Scrap richer but u just wasted ur money! If I was down like that I would buy a Norteno CD even if I already owned it jus ta support my set! Remember each sale is a vote towards the artist's work! Ya'll on some other shit! LOL!
"I know homies who will by the cd's just to break'em. I guess we've got too much pride." - (Rid Bone)
Thas fucken hillarious man not only did u just make that Scrap richer but u just wasted ur money! If I was down like that I would buy a Norteno CD even if I already owned it jus ta support my set! Remember each sale is a vote towards the artist's work! Ya'll on some other shit! LOL!
THIS SHIT MAKES ME LAUGH, HEY RID YOU GOT ALBUM-COVER??
ALSO YOU CANT BLAME SOUTHERN FOR NOT HAVING NORTE ALBUMS IN STORES, IT WONT SELL.. AND IF STORES WILL HAVE THEM, THEY WILL BE IN SHELVES AND DUSTED FOR NOT BEEING PICKED UP..
@ RID- SPITTIN AT SURENOS CD'S, ONE WORD CHILDNEZZ.. SHIT YOU HATE IT SO MUCH WHY LOOK AT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE...
ALSO YOU CANT BLAME SOUTHERN FOR NOT HAVING NORTE ALBUMS IN STORES, IT WONT SELL.. AND IF STORES WILL HAVE THEM, THEY WILL BE IN SHELVES AND DUSTED FOR NOT BEEING PICKED UP..
@ RID- SPITTIN AT SURENOS CD'S, ONE WORD CHILDNEZZ.. SHIT YOU HATE IT SO MUCH WHY LOOK AT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE...
Rid...I remember you from the lowtown message board statin that you was a blood that kicked it with and had the nortenos backs..But from reading all your posts..it sounds to me that you wanna call yourself a norteno or wanna portray that you are a norteno expert...I ain't tryin to talk shit aye, but don't fake the funk..you can't be both homie..if you were..you'd be fighting two different battles and living two different lifestyles at once. That's like claimin two different cities...that type shit don't slide but maybe yall do it different where you at???
As far as sales...I haven't listened to much sureno rap and 95% of norteno rap is garbage anyways. Fools sware that you can become a tight rapper by dedicating almost all your material to bangin on surenos..shit gets real old real quick...just cause you can say scrap and norte ever bar doesn't make you a rapper with skills...if you bang norte on every track then you'll only sell to nortenos who are outnumbered by surenos as it is..If you bang sur on every track then you only gonna sell to surenos and they a lot deeper as a total so of course they gonna sell more. But it's artists that have real rappin skills that outsell everybody...you artists should take note....
As far as sales...I haven't listened to much sureno rap and 95% of norteno rap is garbage anyways. Fools sware that you can become a tight rapper by dedicating almost all your material to bangin on surenos..shit gets real old real quick...just cause you can say scrap and norte ever bar doesn't make you a rapper with skills...if you bang norte on every track then you'll only sell to nortenos who are outnumbered by surenos as it is..If you bang sur on every track then you only gonna sell to surenos and they a lot deeper as a total so of course they gonna sell more. But it's artists that have real rappin skills that outsell everybody...you artists should take note....
@Jim Beam:
Cypress Hill are skraps. They have cd's where they rap in spanish right? And on those cd's they're bangin' that skrap bullshit. I just know cuz I be listening to spanish radio stations once in a while. As far as lil' Wyno goes, he's a real busy worker and trying to support his kids n shit. Same as Never is. lil' Wyno was supposed to make a duo album with Never but it hasn't hapened yet. But umm....as far as another lil' Wyno solo CD goes, he's deffinitely dropping one. Wyno has got the album done but the album won't be released til' Never takes his CEO spot back. Never is on a lil' vacation right now so that's why the web-site and message board is down. Otherwise you be knowing our shit will be rockin' da house. As far as Hurrikaine J goes, he's got several solo albums done with other record labels but they fucked him over real bad so that's a bad $ loss for the homie. What I don't understand is why record labels take advantage of good heads like Hurrikaine. Well anyway, Hurrikaine has his solo album done produced by Way Deep of Way Deep Productions & Young incredible gansta Droopy himself. Be sure to be on the lookout for it. I will let everyone know about it when it's the right time.
@Big Oso Loc
Everybody thought I was a blood just cuz of my slang homie. I see a blood and I be like, "What's brazin'?" or "Whaz up breezie?"......I show and pay my respect to the homies. Some Nortenos here refer to me as a "Young Blood".....I hear o.g. crips talk to the new era of crips like that also but these youngsta or wannabe crips be like, "Don't call me blood cuzz" or some shit like that. It's just the way things are acustomed here homie. But I don't take your words offensive homie. Don't even worry 'bout it. Everybody be thinking I'm many things. Some fooz be thinking I'm phillipino & white and they laugh cuz I'm bangin' the N. Some fooz think I'm a mixed breed with white & black just cuz I talk with so much slang. The words you may be reading right now ain't what I sound like in person. But anyway, I haven't banged my whole life I'll admit. I did learn everything as much as possible from the o.g.'s and my uncle Charly Lokes who is a o.g. from the first West Side Merced gang called "The Posse". I didn't start banging to join another fad, I banged because I had to grow strong and stop letting mutha fuckaz step over me. All that hatred burned inside me and the day came where I got jumped by some fuckin' skraps when I was just chillin' at the liquor store alone. I was like, fuck that shit. They wanna bang on me, it's on now. I talked to my homie Krazy Jazon (a blood from WSNB) and told him I wanted to join in. To get in, simple, got jumped by 4 dudes and 2 chicks and the chcks was the ones who fucked me up worse then the vatos cuz them hynas skratch n shit. I couldn't walk for a whole month homie. I'd be all limp walkin' n shit. But anyways, enough story telling in my part. The deal is I ain't a blood, but I'm in a faction with bloods & nortenos on the same click. We don't try to get people to join or kick it with us. We go all over the place not giving a fuck who's gonna be there or not. Things have kinda changed in Merced. You got homies turning their backs on you and setting you up with the opposition. Those fuckers get exiled because they know if we find out they set us or any homie up, they're good as dead. So most them fooz go to another town or try to hide real secretly. There's Norteno gangs in Merced that don't get along with each other such as Dead End Lokez & Loughborough Lokez. Dead End is the biggest Norteno faction in Merced. Loughborough is kinda dieing out though. Most of the b.g.'s from Loughborough start major shit with Dead End so that's where the rivality comes from. Now the o.g.s from Loughborough, they try to teach those youngstaz that bangin' on the same set is not the right thing to do and that that ain't the purpose of Norte. But you know, mutha fuckaz is hard headed these days. But anyway, I got into too many details with this post so Imma just cut it short right now. I'm a N, not a B.
Now out of 100%, you say 95% of Norteno rap is garbage. So who happens to be that luck 5%? Who's at the top of it? Whose your favorite Norteno artists and why? Well, I puts it like this, lyric wise, Woodie is at the top as of right now. Style wise, it would be Speedy Loc or Tokztero. $karface makes his good standpoints with his lyrics also so I put him at the top of my chart. It's true about most Nortenoz rapping about shooting and killing skraps and droppin' their corpses in ditches n shit, I myself rap about what I want to do to skraps, but I just haven't killed one yet. I have roughed and fucked up a few here n there, but that's as close as it gets. But, lyric wise, I add a twist to this Norteno rap industry. Creativity and style is what I bring forward. I rap about shit like......well, peep this verse right quick:
"You expect me to be done with my career/ When you hear the tear drop know that I don't fear none of you queers cuz I was taught by a core addict peer/ Who in heart is like Paul Reveer brave but then scared when he sees his reflection in the mirror/ I don't feel pain even if you shanked me with a spear in my rear/ Or cut off my ears with shears because the sight of blood will appear/ And you'll be bomb rushed by a group of steers like at the festival that's held in Spain/ No matter what happens to me I will continue and will remain/ Unstopable like a out of control sub-way train/ Any questions mane?"
I try to rhyme as much as possible and bring forward my point. I can do lyrical battles and people do challenge me when it comes down to it. I can't freestyle for shit. Well, I can, but I'll end up fuckin' up my flow in the middle of thangz. That's why I sit down, grab a pen & paper, and just write lyrics after lyrics that actually make sense and that's what my gente know me for. You'll get a taste of it in the future homie. Believe me.....
Keep it real Big Oso, I'll be lookin' forward to collaborating with ya in the future cuz we got a lil' bit of the same style of rappin'. Be sure to check out my music when it's on my mp3 web-site. I know you got one too homie cuz I already checked it out, and it has your song "How I Ride" on there. O, and if you want a demo, I'll be glad to send you it in the mail homie. Just lay down the adress to shoot it to. One luv.....I'm out
Cypress Hill are skraps. They have cd's where they rap in spanish right? And on those cd's they're bangin' that skrap bullshit. I just know cuz I be listening to spanish radio stations once in a while. As far as lil' Wyno goes, he's a real busy worker and trying to support his kids n shit. Same as Never is. lil' Wyno was supposed to make a duo album with Never but it hasn't hapened yet. But umm....as far as another lil' Wyno solo CD goes, he's deffinitely dropping one. Wyno has got the album done but the album won't be released til' Never takes his CEO spot back. Never is on a lil' vacation right now so that's why the web-site and message board is down. Otherwise you be knowing our shit will be rockin' da house. As far as Hurrikaine J goes, he's got several solo albums done with other record labels but they fucked him over real bad so that's a bad $ loss for the homie. What I don't understand is why record labels take advantage of good heads like Hurrikaine. Well anyway, Hurrikaine has his solo album done produced by Way Deep of Way Deep Productions & Young incredible gansta Droopy himself. Be sure to be on the lookout for it. I will let everyone know about it when it's the right time.
@Big Oso Loc
Everybody thought I was a blood just cuz of my slang homie. I see a blood and I be like, "What's brazin'?" or "Whaz up breezie?"......I show and pay my respect to the homies. Some Nortenos here refer to me as a "Young Blood".....I hear o.g. crips talk to the new era of crips like that also but these youngsta or wannabe crips be like, "Don't call me blood cuzz" or some shit like that. It's just the way things are acustomed here homie. But I don't take your words offensive homie. Don't even worry 'bout it. Everybody be thinking I'm many things. Some fooz be thinking I'm phillipino & white and they laugh cuz I'm bangin' the N. Some fooz think I'm a mixed breed with white & black just cuz I talk with so much slang. The words you may be reading right now ain't what I sound like in person. But anyway, I haven't banged my whole life I'll admit. I did learn everything as much as possible from the o.g.'s and my uncle Charly Lokes who is a o.g. from the first West Side Merced gang called "The Posse". I didn't start banging to join another fad, I banged because I had to grow strong and stop letting mutha fuckaz step over me. All that hatred burned inside me and the day came where I got jumped by some fuckin' skraps when I was just chillin' at the liquor store alone. I was like, fuck that shit. They wanna bang on me, it's on now. I talked to my homie Krazy Jazon (a blood from WSNB) and told him I wanted to join in. To get in, simple, got jumped by 4 dudes and 2 chicks and the chcks was the ones who fucked me up worse then the vatos cuz them hynas skratch n shit. I couldn't walk for a whole month homie. I'd be all limp walkin' n shit. But anyways, enough story telling in my part. The deal is I ain't a blood, but I'm in a faction with bloods & nortenos on the same click. We don't try to get people to join or kick it with us. We go all over the place not giving a fuck who's gonna be there or not. Things have kinda changed in Merced. You got homies turning their backs on you and setting you up with the opposition. Those fuckers get exiled because they know if we find out they set us or any homie up, they're good as dead. So most them fooz go to another town or try to hide real secretly. There's Norteno gangs in Merced that don't get along with each other such as Dead End Lokez & Loughborough Lokez. Dead End is the biggest Norteno faction in Merced. Loughborough is kinda dieing out though. Most of the b.g.'s from Loughborough start major shit with Dead End so that's where the rivality comes from. Now the o.g.s from Loughborough, they try to teach those youngstaz that bangin' on the same set is not the right thing to do and that that ain't the purpose of Norte. But you know, mutha fuckaz is hard headed these days. But anyway, I got into too many details with this post so Imma just cut it short right now. I'm a N, not a B.
Now out of 100%, you say 95% of Norteno rap is garbage. So who happens to be that luck 5%? Who's at the top of it? Whose your favorite Norteno artists and why? Well, I puts it like this, lyric wise, Woodie is at the top as of right now. Style wise, it would be Speedy Loc or Tokztero. $karface makes his good standpoints with his lyrics also so I put him at the top of my chart. It's true about most Nortenoz rapping about shooting and killing skraps and droppin' their corpses in ditches n shit, I myself rap about what I want to do to skraps, but I just haven't killed one yet. I have roughed and fucked up a few here n there, but that's as close as it gets. But, lyric wise, I add a twist to this Norteno rap industry. Creativity and style is what I bring forward. I rap about shit like......well, peep this verse right quick:
"You expect me to be done with my career/ When you hear the tear drop know that I don't fear none of you queers cuz I was taught by a core addict peer/ Who in heart is like Paul Reveer brave but then scared when he sees his reflection in the mirror/ I don't feel pain even if you shanked me with a spear in my rear/ Or cut off my ears with shears because the sight of blood will appear/ And you'll be bomb rushed by a group of steers like at the festival that's held in Spain/ No matter what happens to me I will continue and will remain/ Unstopable like a out of control sub-way train/ Any questions mane?"
I try to rhyme as much as possible and bring forward my point. I can do lyrical battles and people do challenge me when it comes down to it. I can't freestyle for shit. Well, I can, but I'll end up fuckin' up my flow in the middle of thangz. That's why I sit down, grab a pen & paper, and just write lyrics after lyrics that actually make sense and that's what my gente know me for. You'll get a taste of it in the future homie. Believe me.....
Keep it real Big Oso, I'll be lookin' forward to collaborating with ya in the future cuz we got a lil' bit of the same style of rappin'. Be sure to check out my music when it's on my mp3 web-site. I know you got one too homie cuz I already checked it out, and it has your song "How I Ride" on there. O, and if you want a demo, I'll be glad to send you it in the mail homie. Just lay down the adress to shoot it to. One luv.....I'm out
@ Mexicano x4:
Well, as of yet, we ain't collaborated but I'm looking forward to it to give people a good taste of what I'm serving to the dinner table. In my mind, I'm thinking, if people want me to drop some heat with them, then Imma do it. I ain't doing no fuckin' freedom of choice type of thang. There's some fooz who think that if a rapper or some rappers ain't the shit or are whack or sumptin', they're not even gonna bother. I'm trying to be all over the place in this Norteno rap game. My starting point will be the "40 Ounces & A Blunt" compilation album that $karface of Project Affiliated is putting together. My second major thang will probably be me introducing myself to the gente on Minority Militia 4. Unfortunately, I didn't drop on "The People's Army" CD, otherwise people would know who I am by now but it's all grave ya feel me? I'm twisting my vibes a lil' bit and rapping on a more gansta tip than before. Sick West Coast style gansta tracks & verses is what I'm serving. I hope that people don't spit it back in my face though cuz you know some people hate. As far as Tiny Lokz & Big Thangz goes, if the opportunity comes, I'll take it. All they gotta do is get my # and phone and say: "Wanna drop some heat on the album?" and it's settled. Rid Bone featured with Tiny Lokz or Big Thangz Soldadoz. It'll happen soon I feel. Latez.......
Well, as of yet, we ain't collaborated but I'm looking forward to it to give people a good taste of what I'm serving to the dinner table. In my mind, I'm thinking, if people want me to drop some heat with them, then Imma do it. I ain't doing no fuckin' freedom of choice type of thang. There's some fooz who think that if a rapper or some rappers ain't the shit or are whack or sumptin', they're not even gonna bother. I'm trying to be all over the place in this Norteno rap game. My starting point will be the "40 Ounces & A Blunt" compilation album that $karface of Project Affiliated is putting together. My second major thang will probably be me introducing myself to the gente on Minority Militia 4. Unfortunately, I didn't drop on "The People's Army" CD, otherwise people would know who I am by now but it's all grave ya feel me? I'm twisting my vibes a lil' bit and rapping on a more gansta tip than before. Sick West Coast style gansta tracks & verses is what I'm serving. I hope that people don't spit it back in my face though cuz you know some people hate. As far as Tiny Lokz & Big Thangz goes, if the opportunity comes, I'll take it. All they gotta do is get my # and phone and say: "Wanna drop some heat on the album?" and it's settled. Rid Bone featured with Tiny Lokz or Big Thangz Soldadoz. It'll happen soon I feel. Latez.......
