and i bet innocents did get killed. they would mobb down the street with the fools with the guns, standing side by side with em. women and children, and yes, that is why over a thousand somalians died and we only lost about 19 rangers. and i am not in the army. you talk alot of shit about america, you know, if it weren't for that same army you are knockin, canada wouldn't even be there. look man, this is senseless, i don't what you are trying to get across here, but whatever the military does, 80 percent of the time, it helps out america, the united nations, and the country the are fighting in. i don't know where you are going with this argument. are you in the military? cause your mentality does change when you have to go war for bullshit