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That was as confusing a game as the Seahawks have ever played, which is saying something given the confounding nature of the team under coach Pete Carroll.

Seattle was nothing short of dominant in the first half, building a 14-point lead. The Seahawks were unambiguously awful in the third quarter, letting a two-touchdown advantage turn into a seven-point deficit before Seattle came back to win in spite of itself, missing a field goal in the fourth quarter and having what would have been the game-tying extra-point blocked.

With all that in mind, here’s a best attempt to make sense of what happened.

Three things we learned:

I. Seattle’s defense can dissolve without warning. This is not about Richard Sherman or his anger on the sidelines. We’ll get to that in a bit. But through five games, the Seahawks have been exceptional on defense except for two periods: the fourth quarter against San Francisco in Week 3 and the third quarter of Sunday’s game against Atlanta. Those two quarters account for more than 25 percent of the total yards Seattle has allowed this season and nearly half the points the Seahawks have given up. The 49ers gained 122 yards and scored 14 points in the final period of their loss in Seattle while the Falcons gained 252 yards and scored 21 points in the third quarter on Sunday. Seattle has allowed just 58 yards and 2.4 points on average over the rest of the 18 regular-season quarters it has played this year.

2. Russell Wilson is a better quarterback this year. It’s not his mobility that is limited so much as a distinct lack of acceleration. He’s nowhere near as explosive as he has been in previous seasons, averaging 7 rushing yards per game and 1.7 per carry. That shouldn’t be all that big of a shock when you consider the guy suffered a high-ankle sprain in the opener and a sprained knee ligament two weeks later. And all he has done is complete more than two-thirds of his pass attempts over the past two games without throwing an interception since Week 1, when he was healthy. And more than ever, Wilson is stepping up into the pocket and continuing to look down-field on plays where he may have run in the past. It’s also worth noting that he has been picked off only twice in his last 12 regular-season games even as he’s throwing more frequently than at any point previously in his career.

3. Wilson’s health explains more than half of Seattle’s run-game struggles. The Seahawks are averaging 88.8 yards rushing this season and 3.2 yards per carry. Compare that to their 2015 averages of 141.8 per game and 4.5 per carry. Now consider that Wilson accounted for more than one-quarter of Seattle’s rushing yards a year ago. If you take out Wilson’s carries, here’s how Seattle’s rushing totals compare: 81.8 yards per game and 3.4 yards per carry in 2016 compared to 107.2 per game and 4.3 per carry last year. There’s one other factor to consider regarding Wilson’s injury: opponents don’t have to account for him as diligently when defending the read option as he’s not as big of a threat to run, and that certainly crimps opportunities for others. In other words, the single biggest difference in Seattle’s running game this season is that Wilson is not really part of it.

Three things we’re still trying to figure out:

1. How much will Sherman’s sideline tantrum matter? It could be evidence of fault lines running through the defense all the way up to the coordinator. It also could be a moment that makes Seattle’s defense stronger. It’s too soon to come to any conclusions, but this is something that’s going to be worth monitoring. As much as Sherman’s teammates tried to calm him down and reel him back in, he didn’t appear fully engaged with his defensive teammates after the blown coverage resulted in the first of Atlanta’s three third-quarter touchdowns. Sherman is a six-year veteran and a proven All-Pro. It’s not like he’s going to go in the tank. At the same time, given the emotional connection that Carroll has fostered among this team, it’s worth watching the chemistry going forward.

2. Why is Michael Bennett so darn mad? Wait. We know the answer to that question. Falcons offensive lineman Jake Matthews faked like he was going to block Bennett high, then went low to take out Bennett’s legs in what is known as a cut block. The question is whether Bennett should have been as mad as he was. On the one hand, the block is not only totally legal, but it’s a technique the Seahawks’ offensive line employs rather frequently. On the other hand, Bennett has an incredibly valid point about the bias that exists in the NFL’s officiating. Defenders can’t so much as slap a quarterback’s helmet, and they can’t hit him low, either, having been forbidden from diving at a quarterback’s legs after Tom Brady had his knee blown out by a Kansas City safety in 2008. Defenders get no such protection from cut blocks. So while I’m not saying that Bennett should be cursing Matthews out for what he considers a cheap play, in the words of Chris Rock, I understand. One reassuring footnote: It appears Bennett’s knee injury was not serious.

3. What the heck happened on defense in that third quarter? Seriously, it bears repeating. Seattle allowed 252 yards of offense in the third quarter as the Falcons scored three touchdowns, each on a drive of 75 or more yards. It matched the second-most points the Seahawks have given up in a single period during Carroll’s Seattle tenure. In the other three quarters, the Falcons gained a total of 110 yards and crossed midfield exactly twice. While two blown assignments explain two of the three touchdowns, they account for less than one-third of the yardage Seattle gave up. Was it that Atlanta got hot or did Seattle just get that far out of whack, and if it’s the latter, how do the Seahawks prevent that from happening again? Because that’s the kind of quarter that will end a season in January.

Making sense of Seahawks run game and their sideline meltdown
 
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"Heading into the bye, Carroll was excited about the way his team was protecting quarterback Russell Wilson through four games, and on Sunday the offensive line once again held up well in the passing game. Wilson was sacked only one time, and that came on a blitz by cornerback Desmond Trufant. Wilson has now been sacked 10 times this season, down from 22 sacks through five games in 2015."

Five Things We Learned From Seahawks Head Coach Pete Carroll’s Week 7 Monday Press Conference | Seattle Seahawks
 
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Seahawks Featured As Contenders In ESPN’s ‘Contenders And Pretenders’ List
For ESPN Insider, NFL writer Mike Sando examined every NFL team that has a winning record after Week 6, and separated them based on who he believes has a legitimate chance at reaching the Super Bowl and who doesn’t. Sando made the distinction by categorizing them as contenders or pretenders, with additional sub-categories for the teams in the contenders tab, such as “cream of the crop,” “a notch or two below” and “flawed, by not yet pretenders.”

The Seahawks finished in the elite cream of the crop group alongside the New England Patriots (5-1). Here’s what Sando had to say about why he placed Seattle up top:

Seattle Seahawks (4-1): Seattle comes in a notch below the Patriots because New England is so much better at winning high-scoring games. New England is 14-11 since 2012 when opponents exceed 24 points. No other team has won even 33 percent of those games. Seattle is 1-13 in them, which ranks 31st in the league, ahead of only Buffalo (0-21). The Seahawks are so consistently good on defense that they won't have to win too many games outside their comfort zone, provided Michael Bennett's knee injury is actually "nothing major," as he said after the game. Seattle cannot afford to lose its best defensive lineman.
 
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3. What the heck happened on defense in that third quarter? Seriously, it bears repeating. Seattle allowed 252 yards of offense in the third quarter as the Falcons scored three touchdowns, each on a drive of 75 or more yards. It matched the second-most points the Seahawks have given up in a single period during Carroll’s Seattle tenure. In the other three quarters, the Falcons gained a total of 110 yards and crossed midfield exactly twice. While two blown assignments explain two of the three touchdowns, they account for less than one-third of the yardage Seattle gave up. Was it that Atlanta got hot or did Seattle just get that far out of whack, and if it’s the latter, how do the Seahawks prevent that from happening again? Because that’s the kind of quarter that will end a season in January.


I mean I am not totally surprised by the 3rd quarter as Bennett went down midway through and Frank Clark was already not playing.

That really only leaves 1 viable pass rusher in Avril and a secondary that was missing Kam. Throw in Sherman's tantrum to put everyone on edge and take Kris Richard's focus off the game - and the whole thing is a recipe for disaster.

Having said that I wasn't totally surprised, it was still pretty shitty to watch and that shouldn't happen no matter what.

It kind of reminded me of our last SB visit when Avril was taken out with a concussion and all of a sudden Tom Brady went from ineffective to MVP.
 
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Anyone see the Inside the NFL video? It shows after that blown play, Kris Richard going crazy at Sherman as he was coming to the sideline, undoubtedly blaming Sherman and yelling at him and that's when Sherman blew up. What Sherman has said, and what Pete Carroll confirmed, is that Sherman did not get the proper play call relayed to him by McCray who was filling in for Kam, so Sherman was playing the wrong play when the others weren't.

Having Kam back in there will be a big improvement.

But for me, the blame goes on Kris Richard. This happened twice in that quarter alone and it happened a couple times last year at least. That means there is a problem in the system and that the miscommunication is a real problem that needs to be fixed. If it happens once, sure, blame the player. But we now have a handful of times this has happened - that is on the defensive coach. I heard Hugh Millen I believe it was, absolutely get furious about the situation on the radio, but basically he was saying if the smartest player on defense is Richard Sherman and he's getting confused or missing play calls, then it's a problem with the system. When arguably your best defensive player who is extremely passionate about winning is getting blamed for the miscues, then something is wrong and that's a coaches problem.

This goes back to what I said before, there is something not quite right with Kris Richard and I don't believe he has the same level of respect from his players as Dan Quinn or Gus Bradley had. And if he does, then great but clearly the communication needs to be addressed pronto.
 
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He is just a super blow-hard and quite frankly, knows dick about football. Yes, he is a Husky legend...dont care. Cant stand him or his opinions.

This is the same guy who basically said Russell Wilson would fail. I believe he even bet another radio guy over it. I know others predicted Russ would not make it, but he was very adamant about it.
 
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I fuckin hate Hugh Millen. Carry on.
I'm not a fan of the guy either, he's often a negative Nancy and is critical of people when he shouldn't be. Many times he's "dissed" Marshan in the past, Wilson way too often and Sherman. But this one point he made I agreed with so I posted it. In my mind, based on what I hear, this is a coaching problem, mainly khris Richard.

The reason why I liked what he said wasn't because he was being critical of anyone's play or anything like that it was about coaching and he is a coach, albeit little league he has coached for like 9 years or something like that and the way he explained it about the smartest player on your team if he doesn't get something if he's getting confused and it's clearly a coaching problem and I think that's true in this case too, Sherman is super smart he studies just as much as Wilson if not more and if he is getting the wrong play 2x in 1 quarter and possibly going back to last year then it's the system, there is a problem in the system.
 
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From Reddit:


Wonderfully eye-opening analysis of the whole thing by Brock and Dungy on the radio just now. Here's their take after watching the all-22 film:

1. The Seahawks have a coverage in which the outside CBs play man-to-man, and the inside defenders play zone.

2. This coverage has an inherent weakness if the offense clears out the CBs by running those outside receivers to the inside, and then wheeling inside receivers to the outside and then down the sideline.

3. Quinn, obviously knowing this, on multiple occasions ran offense plays that would take advantage of the weakness - if he guessed right on the coverage. This worked (he guessed right) - twice. In fact, according to Dungy on the long TDs Ryan had receivers wide-open down BOTH sidelines, not just Sherman's.

4. Had Kam been playing, it is (more) likely that he would recognize a formation that could take advantage of the weakness (Brock said 3-by-1 sets) and he would have audibled out of it.

5. McCray simply is not as familiar with the defense to the point that he knows to check out of the defense.

6. Sherman, therefore, was upset because that coverage should not be called absent Kam.

I think this explanation is consistent with the evidence. I think I can even recall seeing Chris Richard, in trying to calm Sherman, pointing to himself as if saying "that was on me," and I think I saw a glimpse of his whiteboard showing the route combinations discussed by Brock and Dungy.

When asked if this somehow provides a "blue print" for beating our defense, the answer is obviously other teams will attempt to guess right in the same way, but it can be fixed by simply not making "risky" calls without Kam in there to check out of it when the offense gives unfavorable looks. The real downside is that we may have to play more vanilla without Kam.

My prediction, however, is that if Kam does not play, we will see more straight man-to-man and rushing 5 or 6. It's what worked to a charm against the Falcons in the 4th quarter when we needed stops. It should work even better with Bennett and Clark in the mix rushing Palmer, who is less mobile than Ryan.

EDIT: I think this is the link: Podcast Player - sports.MyNorthwest.com
 
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