Scottie Pippen or Kobe?

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What other All-Star was present on the Bulls team besides Pippen when Jordan retired? While Jordan was present, they had 2 superstars in MJ and Pippen, the other players just did they part. Same with the Lakers. Thats just how Phil Jackson runs his coaching. Point is, Pippen is a better overall player than what Kobe is! Dont try to come with your bullshit mane. Youre right, GAME OVER, for you!
 
May 19, 2002
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Hahaha, B.J. may have made the allstar team but he wasnt no allstar!! Matter of fact he was voted in as a starter!! He would have never made it if he didnt get voted in!! The Bulls were popular and B.J. was to, but everyone knows he wasnt that good!! And I dont think that Grant made the team that year, so that case aint that legitimate!! But I will let u 2 guys argue it out, but my quick opinion is........Pippen in his prime was a better overall player!! That means defense, scorin, passin, leading, and, unselfishness!! But its close though!! Ko-Me fasho is a better scorer, but Pippen was better overall!!! GOT EM!!!!
 
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Kobe and Pippen are both 2nd best on the team, Well Pippen is More 3rd.
Kobe to Shaq.
Pippen to Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells.
So Comparing Kobe to the present Pippen isn't really accurate.
But Air Splinter is a better all around player than Pip'
 
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Mista Sinista said:
What other All-Star was present on the Bulls team besides Pippen when Jordan retired?
Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong

Mista Sinista said:
While Jordan was present, they had 2 superstars in MJ and Pippen, the other players just did they part. Same with the Lakers. Thats just how Phil Jackson runs his coaching.
That's how every coach does their coaching, they try and get their players do do their jobs. The difference here is, those Bulls players did their jobs, thats how they had 3 All-Star's when Jordan left. Without Shaq, no other player aside from Kobe has a chance at making it, because they do not have what it takes, they are not as good as what Pippen had, not even close.

Mista Sinista said:
Point is, Pippen is a better overall player than what Kobe is! Dont try to come with your bullshit mane. Youre right, GAME OVER, for you!
Wow, you belong on sports center with that analysis. Point is I came at you with facts, you disregarded them, asked questions I easily answered, then jumped on the balls of the next person to agree, might I add a Bulls fan and a Laker hater.

KINGCZAR said:
Hahaha, B.J. may have made the allstar team but he wasnt no allstar!! Matter of fact he was voted in as a starter!! He would have never made it if he didnt get voted in!!
Sure he was an All-Star, he just wasn't a flashy super-star like some players. Your telling me he wouldn't have been an All-Star if he didn't get voted in... no shit.

KINGCZAR said:
And I dont think that Grant made the team that year, so that case aint that legitimate!!
He did make the All-Star team, you above all should know that. He was a factor on that Bulls team and I have proof and numbers to show for it if you decide to deny that. Sounds like the case IS that legitimate.

KINGCZAR said:
That means defense, scorin, passin, leading, and, unselfishness!! But its close though!! Ko-Me fasho is a better scorer
So Pippen was a better scorer but Kobe was fasho a better scorer? It's obvious your just listing catagories in Pippen's favor without really thinking about it. Pippen had better defense and possibly better passing, but Kobe take's it in rebounding and scoring. Kobe could lead if he had a team to follow him. Kobe could lead that bulls team without a doubt.

Put Scottie Pippen with Fisher, Horry, Fox and Walker and tell me he would have lead them as far as he did the Bulls. No one can lead those clowns, NO ONE.
 
May 19, 2002
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Dude u never get what I say mane!! When i said Pippen was better overall, that meant if u put everything together than he is better!! So I listed the overall categories!! I didnt list all of those categories in pippen's favor, I was listin what i was judging by!! If i meant that Pippen was better in all those then he would easily be better than Ko_Me!! I think u know what i menat, but sometimes u play dumb!! And also Im not sayin Grant didnt make the team that year, but if u can show me, cause I dont remember him makin it!! Also B.J. wasnt close to bein a allstar caliber player!! Matter of fact his career was ok at best!!! U can hipe him up, but B.J. wasnt much in my eyes!!! And to the rest of yall, we aint comparin Ko-Me to the Pippen of now, we are comparing their overall careeers, which isnt even fair cause Ko-me has alot more time to play!! So at this point Pippen is better overall, but when Ko-Me is done who knows maybe it will be different!!! GOT EM!!!
 
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No, I didn't know what you meant and I don't play dumb to make a point like your doing when downplaying Grant and Armstrong. If Grant was "ok" at best then tell me this. The year Jordan left the Bulls went to the playoffs and had a good year. The next year, Grant left to Orlando and the Bulls were struggling to stay at .500 and even when Jordan came back, they were eliminated by Orlando in the playoffs, the team Grant was playing on. Then next year they got Rodman to fill his shoes and they were back on track. That, what I just said, is substantial proof that he was a major factor on that Bulls team. You can argue it all you want but that facts will still be there. You, acting like these players arn't shit is "playing dumb" on your part, and is just another opportunity to take a shot at the Lakers.
 
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Now u twisting it and usin Grant because u know B.J. really wasnt shit!! Hahaha!! U show me where I said Grant was just ok!!!!! Waitin!!! Now Grant was a good player for the Bulls, but he wasnt a allstar, even if he did make it once or twice in his career!! Obviously it hurt when he left because he was a good PF, and they had no one to replace him, but that dont make him this great allstar u crackin him up to be!!! The real allstars on the Bulls was easily Jordan & Pippen!!! B.J. wasnt much and Grant was pretty good!!! Thats it!!! GOT EM!!!
 
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I never said these were superstars, were talking about in comparison to the players the Lakers have right now. He tried to say take Shaq off the Lakers and you have what the Bulls did without Jordan, but you don't. The Bulls had alot more to work with weather they were superstars, all-stars, or just good players. We had better success with our backup PF then we did with Horry. Im not hyping these players up at all, I stated that they made it to the all-star game and the impact Grant had when he left, your the one talking about super stardom. B.J. was good, Grant was even better, both being better then what L.A. has right now, so again I say, you can't make that comparison.
 
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I dont know about a comparison, but B.J. wasnt that good! he knew his role, and he could shoot!! Grant was nice though, but not a allstar caliber player either, but regardless, I was just arguing with u on how u was hyping those 2 players up!! GOT EM!!!
 
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Regardless, the Bulls minus Jordan and Pippen are much more talented then the Lkers minus Shaq and Kobe. This cat is trying to make two completely different things seem so similar, all while trying to shadow his comments on Pippen being a top 10 player ever.