say what you want about mike vick he was not overrated.

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so is anyone gonna make the case that he has had a reliable receiver thruoghout his career? or a dependable offensive line? matter of fact i dare you to name a successful qb without either one of the two. please someone do that for me. manning? good receivers and oline. brady? the same. romo? the same. what other qb is succeeding this year or any without a good receiver and an offensive line? please someone enlighten me. PLEASE
Well see the difference between Manning, Brady and Vick is we KNOW Manning and Brady can get it done. Even if Vick had a good O-Line and good receivers you don't know whether or not he'd be good. He's not the most accurate passer and he doesn't always make great decisions, so there's no way you can compare him to Manning or Brady even if he had similar talent. Peyton Manning is like an OC on the field, so you might as well quit bringing him up because he is way out of Vick's league.

And the reason Vick is overrated is the media pumped him up way too much. Nobody is as good as they tried to make Vick look. He was a highlight-reel regular, but that's about it. Brandon Lloyd was also a highlight-reel guy, but he is ass as a receiver. The media is to blame for Mike Vick being overrated.

Also I believe you've tried to make these same arguments in several other threads about your boy Vick, so why did you feel the need to start this one? You brought up no new points. I think you're just wasting your time dog..
 
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phil said:
so is anyone gonna make the case that he has had a reliable receiver thruoghout his career? or a dependable offensive line? matter of fact i dare you to name a successful qb without either one of the two. please someone do that for me. manning? good receivers and oline. brady? the same. romo? the same. what other qb is succeeding this year or any without a good receiver and an offensive line? please someone enlighten me. PLEASE
I DID ALREADY!!!!


John Elway!


give me peerless price over Vance Johnson

give me warrick dunn over Sammy winder

give me atl o-line over denver's 1980's and early 90's lines.
 

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I Fucked Your Mom said:
Damn, are you a Vick groupie? DO you own a hair doll of him? Why are you riding for him like he is your girlfriend?

Youre a sad, pathetic little man.

Seriously, this guys just posts on this board to talk about Michael Vick.

This guys passion for him is scary.
 

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no LINE!!! how did warrick dunn rush for 1000 yards plus from 04-06????
vick spread the defense out you dumbfuck or did you flunk football 101.

why isnt he on pace to run for a 1000 this year? why did the number 1 rushing attack turn into the 21st. and when i say number 1 number 2 WASNT EVEN CLOSE. get the fuck outta here
 

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how do you complete passes when a) you dont have time to make your reads and b) if you do the god damn receivers drop the ball?

please explain that before you continue proving what a fucking idiot you are. you may not respect vick as a player but defensive coordinators around the league did. HE NEVER HAD A GOOD RECEIVER EVER. EVER. PEERLESS PRICE WAS NOT A GOOD RECEIVER SO DONT EVEN MENTION HIM.

vick was always blamed for the receivers dropping the ball because he was left handed and threw too hard. newsflash. joey harrington is right handed, has a fucking noodle arm and they have been just as consistent in dropping the ball if not worse this year. 21 sacks already? is that the oline? or is harrington dropping back out of the snap too fast? that was the knock on vick. but as soon as carson palmer is struggling they dont say hes having a bad year they recognize his offensive line isnt blocking. ill stop while youre still confused before you get completely befuddled. and scary1 name 1 qb besides john elway that did shit without a good offensive line? there never was one, ive stated this before and i still believe JOHN ELWAY IS THE BEST QB EVER. but you have to admit he didnt win a super bowl until he had a probowl receiver and hall of fame caliber running back. dunn is no terrell davis and roddy white is no rod smith. crumpler is the same caliber as sharpe.but besides elway you cant name a qb who had such a bad line and succeeded. his line was never as bad or worse than what vick had to work with regardless of what you say.
 

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steve young, brett favre, troy aikman, tom brady, joe montana, peyton manning, all had great offensive lines and teams around them but vick was expected to live up to their accomplishments with players who would struggle to make the 3rd string on those respective players teams. get the fuck outta here.
 

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Quick said:
Seriously, this guys just posts on this board to talk about Michael Vick.

This guys passion for him is scary.
i also post in many football threads. sorry i dont know shit about boxing, or ufc, or baseball or much else. if its not falcon football or celtics basketball, or bonds/t.o./pacman then it doesnt interest me. get off my jock faggot.