saddam and his sons are sick motherfuckers!this is whut the iraqi's go through...

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this dude (saddams youngest son) was at this celebration type thing.he was having people scewer themselves with lancing swords through their abdomen all the way through from stomach out the back.and they were dancing around for him.other people dancing around with knives in their heads.

saddams son was all into it telling people to make more of them participate.

it was all on video.

this dude was initiated to murder at 13 by saddams wishes.and is a high ranking official for the iraqi military over seeing rape and torcher.

and they even interview iraqi women that have witnessed their neice being raped.16 years old all because she wrote a note to herself saying she was against the government and saddam.and whut do they do the get a soldier to rape her and have her parents watch and make a video to show to the rest of her relatives.

one old lady was a survivor of the mustard gas attack on the kurds and she is still fucked up to this day.she witnessed the children and mothers and fathers layed out everywhere dying with blisters forming and eyes swollen blinded by the gas screaming and vomiting.

i don't know how she survived.

keep in mind it was 15 years to the week that that happened when the war started.

it looks like pay back.

also the acid baths,among other torture methods.

250,000 missing iraqi's kidnapped and tortured then buried in mass graves.

this is whut i think america is at war for.

beside weapons of mass distruction.

iraq is the size of california.

satilite pictures have captured a nuclear facility that they discovered after the gulf war.they check it out when they thought it was just another building.whut do they find???

a facility manufacturing nuclear bomb/bombs.only a few months away from being used in a tests.

you tell me?
 
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First off could you provide a link to this info youre refering to? Second, yes Saddam is an evil man true he needs to go but this war is not the way to get rid of him. There are other ways that would not involve killing civilians. And Heresy is right about Americans raping Vietnamese women, war brings out the worst in people.
 
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lets not forget how many innocent people are dying in iraq right about now.....

flashback. lets not forget when american troops raped vietnamese women.....


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Of course, I don't agree with the number of bombs that we are dropping in Baghdad. We are liberate people by killing them, I don't see whats wrong with dropping special arm forces instead of dropping thousands of bombs on the Iraqi people. Al Jeereza is saying Saddam is still in control, can you believe that? It may not be true, but imagine if that is true? All those bombs and you still haven't killed the man :rolleyes:

Removing Saddam out of power I agree, but dropping thousands of bombs? No....
 
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I FOUND IT i copied and pasted it from abc news the link is a worthy cause.A Worthy Cause
Women Who Know of Saddam’s Brutality Say This War Is Just



March 21 — They are educated. They aren't required to veil themselves. They can work. But these four women from Iraq say they were missing two crucial things in their homeland — freedom and dignity.


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The four women — Maha Hussain, Zainab al-Suwaij, Katrin Michael and Roz Rasool — told ABCNEWS' Barbara Walters stories that could be punishable by death in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Even Iraqis in the United States are terrified to speak frankly about Saddam's regime, largely because they are terrified of reprisals against family members.
The women are speaking out because they feel they are speaking for the voiceless people living under Saddam's regime.

"We know how it looks like inside Iraq," al-Suwaij said on 20/20. "We saw the torture. We saw our relatives and our friends disappearing day after day."

Human rights groups estimate that at least 290,000 Iraqis have disappeared since Saddam took power 34 years ago. Hussain was just a schoolgirl in Baghdad when the reality of life under Saddam hit home. She recalls riding on a school bus at age 13 and seeing a crowd gathered in the center of the capital, around bodies of men hanging from poles. "I remember the blue faces, the long necks," she said.

Saddam's reign of terror extended far beyond public executions. He established a strategy of brutalizing women in order to control their men. Although the stories these women tell are horrific and difficult to substantiate, they are consistent with a pattern of cruelty toward women documented by various human rights groups.

Routine Rapes, Human Meat Grinders, Chemical Baths

Al-Suwaij knows firsthand how even young girls were imprisoned for what seem to be trivial offenses. Al-Suwaij says she had a 16-year-old cousin who was beaten and tortured with electrical shocks for having written something against the government in her school notebook.

And if a man is a dissident or if a man writes a letter or makes a joke about Saddam, these women said, authorities would rape his wife or female relatives in front of him.

"Rape is used as a tool to humiliate the woman, but to also bring men into submission," Hussain said. To compound the humiliation, authorities would videotape the torture and rape and send the tape to family members.

Saddam's contempt for human rights extended to his well-documented use of poison gas against his own people. The horror of one of those chemical attacks still haunts Michael 16 years later.

"Children, women, men … vomiting, screaming, crying with swollen eyes. Everybody was … screaming, 'We are blind. We cannot see,' " Michael said. She said she still has difficulty breathing, because of her exposure to the gas.

Al-Suwaij has seen the inside of an Iraqi prison, and she describes horrific scenes. She said she was shown "human meat grinders" in which people were shredded and disposed of in a septic tank, and chemical baths in which people were literally dissolved.

"You cannot exaggerate about these things. People were slaughtered," she said.

All four women met earlier this month with members of the Bush administration.

They raised the issues they feel need to be addressed in Iraq. They say there needs to be a clear commitment to democracy in Iraq, and that the United States and its allies will need to chaperon the transition.


Protesters Missing the Point

The anti-war demonstrations happening all over the world are disturbing for these women. Rasool believes the protesters are missing the point.

"Knowing what we've been through, knowing what the people in Iraq are going through up to now, and then when we see protesters, that they don't know the reality of the people who are suffering right now," she said. "They don't know about torture, they don't know about rape."

Although these women support U.S. military action, they say they felt betrayed after the 1991 Gulf War when they heeded then-President George H.W. Bush's call to arms. The elder Bush said Iraqis must rise up on their own and force Saddam to step aside. So these women joined with many other Iraqis who risked their lives because they thought that the Americans were going to back them up.

"That was the first time I saw Iraq liberated. I saw the joy and the happiness of the people," al-Suwaij said.

But the uprising was short-lived. The allied army went home, clearing the way for Saddam to regain control. It is estimated that 30,000 Iraqis perished in the ensuing bloodbath.

"After the failed uprising I was hiding for two months until I left Iraq," said al-Suwaij.

These women are saddened that America and its allies backed off and let Saddam continue his brutal reign after the 1991 war. They ask, Where was the United Nations then? Where were all these human rights activists?

Where are they today? the women ask. Just two weeks ago, a Kurdish mother of eight was splashed with gasoline and set ablaze by military police for no reason, she told Kurdish television.

"We're asking the, the whole world, to see our suffering inside Iraq. We ask them to participate in our freedom and liberty," Rasool said. "Iraqi people suffered enough during 35 years, and they deserve freedom."

As U.S. and British troops advance toward Baghdad, these women say their friends and loved ones will welcome the coalition troops with open arms.
 
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SO IN ESSENCE SADDAM RAN HIS COUNTRY LIKE MASSAH DID THE PLANTATIONS.....

GREAT ARTICLE....SHEDS LIGHT ON *AMERICA* EVEN MORE....

"YOU HYPOCRITE"-YESHUA BEN YOSEF

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Ohh come on now, no one wants to start talking about slavery, it happened so long ago, thats a chapter in America's history that everyone is affraid to talk about....So what happens? We forget it...

Anyways America is smart at hiding there history....

This doesn't change the fact that Saddam needs to go, now the aftermath of all this is what I'm not feeling. We have said several times American officals telling the public that "We will see that the Iraqi people get democracy up and running"...I think we can all read between the lines of what that means. Thats just what I'm not feeling on the whole "liberating Iraq" campaign.
 
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Of course, I don't agree with the number of bombs that we are dropping in Baghdad. We are liberate people by killing them, I don't see whats wrong with dropping special arm forces instead of dropping thousands of bombs on the Iraqi people. Al Jeereza is saying Saddam is still in control, can you believe that? It may not be true, but imagine if that is true? All those bombs and you still haven't killed the man :rolleyes:

Removing Saddam out of power I agree, but dropping thousands of bombs? No....
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Bro you took the words out my mouth. The special forces this country has are unbelievably effective. I will say no more on the subject tho.

Tooper good lookin out bro.
 
Gizmo

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GUILLOTINE said:
, war brings out the worst in people.
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1) Saddam wasnt at war when that happened.
2) We dont rape our own or throw them into "MEAT GRINDERS"



March 21 — They are educated. They aren't required to veil themselves. They can work. But these four women from Iraq say they were missing two crucial things in their homeland — freedom and dignity.

The four women — Maha Hussain, Zainab al-Suwaij, Katrin Michael and Roz Rasool — told stories that could be punishable by death in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Even Iraqis in the United States are terrified to speak frankly about Saddam's regime, largely because they are terrified of reprisals against family members.
The women are speaking out because they feel they are speaking for the voiceless people living under Saddam's regime.

"We know how it looks like inside Iraq," al-Suwaij said on 20/20. "We saw the torture. We saw our relatives and our friends disappearing day after day."

Human rights groups estimate that at least 290,000 Iraqis have disappeared since Saddam took power 34 years ago. Hussain was just a schoolgirl in Baghdad when the reality of life under Saddam hit home. She recalls riding on a school bus at age 13 and seeing a crowd gathered in the center of the capital, around bodies of men hanging from poles. "I remember the blue faces, the long necks," she said.

Saddam's reign of terror extended far beyond public executions. He established a strategy of brutalizing women in order to control their men. Although the stories these women tell are horrific and difficult to substantiate, they are consistent with a pattern of cruelty toward women documented by various human rights groups.

Routine Rapes, Human Meat Grinders, Chemical Baths

Al-Suwaij knows firsthand how even young girls were imprisoned for what seem to be trivial offenses. Al-Suwaij says she had a 16-year-old cousin who was beaten and tortured with electrical shocks for having written something against the government in her school notebook.

And if a man is a dissident or if a man writes a letter or makes a joke about Saddam, these women said, authorities would rape his wife or female relatives in front of him.

"Rape is used as a tool to humiliate the woman, but to also bring men into submission," Hussain said. To compound the humiliation, authorities would videotape the torture and rape and send the tape to family members.

Saddam's contempt for human rights extended to his well-documented use of poison gas against his own people. The horror of one of those chemical attacks still haunts Michael 16 years later.

"Children, women, men … vomiting, screaming, crying with swollen eyes. Everybody was … screaming, 'We are blind. We cannot see,' " Michael said. She said she still has difficulty breathing, because of her exposure to the gas.

Al-Suwaij has seen the inside of an Iraqi prison, and she describes horrific scenes. She said she was shown "human meat grinders" in which people were shredded and disposed of in a septic tank, and chemical baths in which people were literally dissolved.

"You cannot exaggerate about these things. People were slaughtered," she said.

All four women met earlier this month with members of the Bush administration.

They raised the issues they feel need to be addressed in Iraq. They say there needs to be a clear commitment to democracy in Iraq, and that the United States and its allies will need to chaperon the transition.


Protesters Missing the Point

The anti-war demonstrations happening all over the world are disturbing for these women. Rasool believes the protesters are missing the point.

"Knowing what we've been through, knowing what the people in Iraq are going through up to now, and then when we see protesters, that they don't know the reality of the people who are suffering right now," she said. "They don't know about torture, they don't know about rape."

Although these women support U.S. military action, they say they felt betrayed after the 1991 Gulf War when they heeded then-President George H.W. Bush's call to arms. The elder Bush said Iraqis must rise up on their own and force Saddam to step aside. So these women joined with many other Iraqis who risked their lives because they thought that the Americans were going to back them up.

"That was the first time I saw Iraq liberated. I saw the joy and the happiness of the people," al-Suwaij said.

But the uprising was short-lived. The allied army went home, clearing the way for Saddam to regain control. It is estimated that 30,000 Iraqis perished in the ensuing bloodbath.

"After the failed uprising I was hiding for two months until I left Iraq," said al-Suwaij.

These women are saddened that America and its allies backed off and let Saddam continue his brutal reign after the 1991 war. They ask, Where was the United Nations then? Where were all these human rights activists?

Where are they today? the women ask. Just two weeks ago, a Kurdish mother of eight was splashed with gasoline and set ablaze by military police for no reason, she told Kurdish television.

"We're asking the, the whole world, to see our suffering inside Iraq. We ask them to participate in our freedom and liberty," Rasool said. "Iraqi people suffered enough during 35 years, and they deserve freedom."

As U.S. and British troops advance toward Baghdad, these women say their friends and loved ones will welcome the coalition troops with open arms.
 
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Tenkamenin said:
Lets not forget how many innocent women were raped by Saddam's thugs....

Saddam's time is up and he needs to go, my beef isn't with liberating Iraq.
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Exactly what Im tryna say. But I guess it isnt enough for all the right wingers. Apparently you're anti-American if you disagree at all with one single bit of this war...even if you are ultimately in favor of getting rid of Saddam.
 
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What was that some one said?

"If you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one who Barks the loudest got hit?

Dont justify yourself if it aint you.
 
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@ Tenkamenin

Reading yur Quote in your Sig, What is a westerner?
Is it an american?

PS is that not how Assyria, and rome one also?
 
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