Religious vs Spiritual - Perception of Reality

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amazing...

i dont know if my labeling of the divided groups would be religious vs spiritual but i personally try to continue evolve into a more "spiritual' living by paying close attention to reality and and spirituality to me is more of a social system as well. I believe Mature Man/Woman (maturity only takes realness) will, thanks to evolution, realize that all of earths "problems" can be solved on a much more simpler basis if the whole social system of the world was to mature alongside it.
concepts are nothing but your own interpretation so any concept such as "spirituality" , "god" , "government" etc is a self expression of your ego.

i need to continue watching project bluebeam but honestly from what i saw is the conspiracy theorists but completely conspiring against another conspiracy. To me the idea of a mature society and of its peoples happens to be the "open minded new agers" which of course have some learning to do themselves but unlike what ive seen so far on project bluebeam is i dont see how even a world collected by one goal while living a mature existance where social problems can be handled with HIGHER THOUGHT that we all know exists.



anyway i just hit the bowl before writin this, but i hope my thoughts reach somebody
 
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^^

Take a look at the thread I posted about Jacques Fresno and the venus project.
He goes in on the social problems we have and offers a real solution for this. Something really 'outside the box' of our current social system. He advocates a whole different kind of social system.

And a side of that, it's always good to get more spiritual awareness instead of blindly following the crowd.
 
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In my opinion, yes...but that doesn't make it invalid or untrue.
of course, i wasnt speaking of the dual nature of valid/invalid or right/wrong.
im just saying people live in a reality thats killing many and have adopted anothers living of a recycled identity from the generation from before but with new toys and ways of expression.

my statement is that there is a supreme reality where everybody else's realities lays. The more layers i peel of the false notions of me or of things and and exist in a void where whats spoken of as "love"/"heaven" exist. simply because you now have no walls built up, no concepts, no ego, and what remains is the Non-dual nature of reality .It becomes joy when life/death, wife/husband, good/evil,pleasure and pain and other polarities become one the universe is accepted fully by the Self as his own and one with him

that joy that is attained is what some masters spoke of when they saod "you are joy" since when you have no identity , you become the a mirror the reality that 'life" is and you see the "infinite" so to speak.


wow i think thats the best way i have ever been able to express such ideas


ps. i actually sent you the I Am That.pdf , did u read the whole thing? if so try reading it when u feel like you entered a new chapter in your life and you will see what i mean that i cant express

edit: if you lost link n want to give it a second try if you see your worldview has shifted since the last time. If so, of course, you will understand him and his concepts differently.
http://www.fixdisease.com/i_am_that.pdf
 
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^^^ 'Cause we're HUMAN...!
I don't think this is true. There are lots of people, tribes, civilizations who do not perpetuate these circles.
And these people are also human.
I think it is part of our current social structure, we mainly know here in the west or in 'developed countries'.
 
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I don't think this is true. There are lots of people, tribes, civilizations who do not perpetuate these circles.
And these people are also human.
I think it is part of our current social structure, we mainly know here in the west or in 'developed countries'.

You asked why HUMANS perpetuated certain cycles... But made no reference to ANY specific group/tribe/civilization... Soooooooooooooooo... What are you talkin' about...???????????????
 
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You asked why HUMANS perpetuated certain cycles... But made no reference to ANY specific group/tribe/civilization... Soooooooooooooooo... What are you talkin' about...???????????????
I did not ask anything, I commented on your answer to that question.

But you are serious about thinking these circles are human nature and therefore we ALL perpetuate them?

I think you can think of enough examples yourself to see that is not the case.
 
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he's right about a lot of things.
The main thing is to prevent a new world order..
and preserve freedom eternally ..
i agree with you there, but lets take it deeper.
how does a world know if the whole worlds ambitions are pure or evil when its one thought?

of course, if a world of "evolved" men existed and thought for themselves, the world with one ambition will exist while the worlds population had one ambition, then corruption cannot exist since every man thinks for themselves. Welcome to the true world of anarchism. Some might call it heaven depending on how humble they are.
anarchistic philosophies vary, and some are retarded. But thats mine.
 
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I did not ask anything, I commented on your answer to that question.

But you are serious about thinking these circles are human nature and therefore we ALL perpetuate them?

I think you can think of enough examples yourself to see that is not the case.
I thought you were Smile... But no... I was commenting on his/her remarks... & that imperfection (in ALL its forms) is a HUMAN trait...