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Strong atheism is a term generally used to describe atheists who accept as true the proposition, "gods do not exist". Weak atheism, is simply the broader concept, "the absence of belief in any gods," someone who lacks theism and who does not happen to believe in the existence of any gods — no more, no less.
And "radical" atheists are those who understand the scale of the problem that religion is and try to do something to solve it :)
 
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ololol @ atheism being divided up just like the different sects of Islam, Christianity and other Reeellliigggionnssss!!! oh NO!!! haha
It's not divided like religion; there exists simply a slightly different definition (sometimes things need to be defined more specifically, rather then using a general term). I've hardly ever had to say "I'm a strong atheist" or a weak atheist, but for matters of clarification, it's useful.

And if it were like Islam, or Christianity, you'd see weak and strong atheists suicide bomb each other and have bloody wars over who is more right. That is not the case because a). atheism is not a belief system rather a lack thereof, and b). Atheists typically aren't that stupid.

@Mac Jesus, like everything, it depends on the person. Obviously some people are more outspoken then others.

@HERESY, we've spoken about this before. I think it is illogical that any deity can exist, but I simply say there is lack of supporting evidence. (I consider myself somewhere between, if that makes sense). Further, I can say for certain that specific gods do not exist (like the Christian god, etc.) but still leave the door open for any other possibilities.
 
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I read metacritic.com and saw that the movie got extremely weak reviews

Can anyone tell me whether or not it really stands on its own regardless of how excited we may be about the content?
 
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Ditto, I think agnosticism is the most appropriate stance. I strongly doubt that God exists, but being positive that he doesn't is almost as bad as being positive that he does. I'm happy to remain agnostic, leaving open the possibility that he may exist, but suggesting that the probability of him existing is less than winning the lottery 5 times in a row.

Looking forward to this movie, although richard dawkins, sam harris, pen and teller (to name a few) have already beat down on theists enough, proving the point that religion is ridiculous.
I disagree.

I believe Agnosticism is, in fact, believing in something but no defining "it".
Most Agnostics define their personal beliefs (atleast the ones I have met) like this...."Well, I believe in a god, but I don't know if it is a woman or man, spirit, soul, bird, tree, sun, moon, etc".....

I think that sounds ever bit as crazy as Theists in some regard.

I was going to join atheism but then I realized the follower's were way to preachy for my taste.
Yea, I have seen so many screen names with "Atheism" somewhere in the title around here lately.

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I disagree.

I believe Agnosticism is, in fact, believing in something but no defining "it".
Most Agnostics define their personal beliefs (atleast the ones I have met) like this...."Well, I believe in a god, but I don't know if it is a woman or man, spirit, soul, bird, tree, sun, moon, etc".....
I see what you're saying, and that is how a lot of agnostics define it. However it may be worth to note the true definition:

2-0-Sixx said:
Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic.

Straight from the man who coined the term (Thomas Huxley):

No better to explain this word then the man who coined the term, Thomas Huxley (1869). When Huxley was looking for a way to describe his thoughts, he selected the early religious sect known as "Gnostics" as a prime example of men who claim knowledge of the supernatural without justification and he distinguished himself as an "agnostic" by stipulating that the supernatural, even if it exists, lies beyond the scope of human knowledge. We cannot say if it does or does not exist, so we must suspend judgment.
Agnosticism signifies the impossibility of knowledge in a given area. An agnostic is a person who believes that something is inherently unknowable by the human mind.

The term "agnostic" does not, in itself, indicate whether or not one believes in a god. Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic.

The agnostic theist believes in the existence of god, BUT maintains that the nature of god is unkowable.

The agnostic atheist maintains that any supernatural realm is inherently unknowable by the human mind and the existence of any supernatural being is unknowable as well.​
 
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I read metacritic.com and saw that the movie got extremely weak reviews

Can anyone tell me whether or not it really stands on its own regardless of how excited we may be about the content?
I haven't seen the movie and I am surprised that there isn't even a shitty cam bootleg of it anywhere on the net yet. However, from what I've gathered from Maher himself, the movie is primarily for comedy and entertainment in general. It isn't really for a fair look at religion. I doubt many people will really change their life perspective after watching this movie.