Random Chance or Specific Design?
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When I responded I did overlook your first post.
Now that I have read it, it is mostly gibberish. We can go on and on debating the meaning of words if you like.
Gibberish
I never said it was.
Why is it pointless speculation??
Gibberish....Expain this statement.
LMAO
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Yeah, if you could get non believers of god to believe that existence implies god, then god would logically exist. However, there are already good scientific explanations for existence (big bang), so we are not limited to the idea that there must be a supernatural being in order for existence to take place. This was a good argument for god though about a thousand years ago when we didn’t know how to measure red shift.
Look it up.
Is that so n9ne? Well what are we speaking of then?
No, the mind is NOT infinite. I will quote myself, "Infinity must be infinite, hehe, yeah I suppose. No, that doesn’t mean intelligence too. From what we know, something, some sort of machinery is needed in creating intelligence. This machinery takes up space. The universe has a finite amount of matter. If we used all the matter in the universe to create the most intelligent brain ever, that would be our limit of intelligence. Save your breathe in arguing about how the brain can reinvent its self. Yes, this is true, but the brain or any computing device can only reinvent its self in order to achieve greater intelligence so many times based on the amount of neurons, or whatever basic processing unit it posses. So this is again a finite limit. "
Hehe, more logical inconsistencies.
Now that I have read it, it is mostly gibberish. We can go on and on debating the meaning of words if you like.
Gibberish
I never said it was.
Why is it pointless speculation??
Gibberish....Expain this statement.
LMAO
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Yeah, if you could get non believers of god to believe that existence implies god, then god would logically exist. However, there are already good scientific explanations for existence (big bang), so we are not limited to the idea that there must be a supernatural being in order for existence to take place. This was a good argument for god though about a thousand years ago when we didn’t know how to measure red shift.
Look it up.
Is that so n9ne? Well what are we speaking of then?
No, the mind is NOT infinite. I will quote myself, "Infinity must be infinite, hehe, yeah I suppose. No, that doesn’t mean intelligence too. From what we know, something, some sort of machinery is needed in creating intelligence. This machinery takes up space. The universe has a finite amount of matter. If we used all the matter in the universe to create the most intelligent brain ever, that would be our limit of intelligence. Save your breathe in arguing about how the brain can reinvent its self. Yes, this is true, but the brain or any computing device can only reinvent its self in order to achieve greater intelligence so many times based on the amount of neurons, or whatever basic processing unit it posses. So this is again a finite limit. "
Hehe, more logical inconsistencies.
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Is that so n9ne? Well what are we speaking of then?
We are speaking of YOU opening your eyes. You still are mistaken in your half-wise concept of God. Get over yourself.
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No, the mind is NOT infinite. I will quote myself, "Infinity must be infinite, hehe, yeah I suppose. No, that doesn’t mean intelligence too. From what we know, something, some sort of machinery is needed in creating intelligence. This machinery takes up space. The universe has a finite amount of matter. If we used all the matter in the universe to create the most intelligent brain ever, that would be our limit of intelligence. Save your breathe in arguing about how the brain can reinvent its self. Yes, this is true, but the brain or any computing device can only reinvent its self in order to achieve greater intelligence so many times based on the amount of neurons, or whatever basic processing unit it posses. So this is again a finite limit. "
You obviously don't know what Mind is. That quote has nothing to do with mind.
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Hehe, more logical inconsistencies.
Hehe, more illogical half wisdom.
The truth is not one sided it is one whole. Get over your finite concepts of reality. I tell you like I've told Heresy, grow. My concept of God is not limited to a dress, a magic wand and wings. If you compare God with the tooth fairy then you haven't the first idea of Him(Her). There is no argument here because you are arguing against something which I am not even speaking of!
Is that so n9ne? Well what are we speaking of then?
We are speaking of YOU opening your eyes. You still are mistaken in your half-wise concept of God. Get over yourself.
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No, the mind is NOT infinite. I will quote myself, "Infinity must be infinite, hehe, yeah I suppose. No, that doesn’t mean intelligence too. From what we know, something, some sort of machinery is needed in creating intelligence. This machinery takes up space. The universe has a finite amount of matter. If we used all the matter in the universe to create the most intelligent brain ever, that would be our limit of intelligence. Save your breathe in arguing about how the brain can reinvent its self. Yes, this is true, but the brain or any computing device can only reinvent its self in order to achieve greater intelligence so many times based on the amount of neurons, or whatever basic processing unit it posses. So this is again a finite limit. "
You obviously don't know what Mind is. That quote has nothing to do with mind.
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Hehe, more logical inconsistencies.
Hehe, more illogical half wisdom.
The truth is not one sided it is one whole. Get over your finite concepts of reality. I tell you like I've told Heresy, grow. My concept of God is not limited to a dress, a magic wand and wings. If you compare God with the tooth fairy then you haven't the first idea of Him(Her). There is no argument here because you are arguing against something which I am not even speaking of!
just one point...
science does not BACK the THEORY of evolution, as evolution(in the form of creation, I.E. the big bang theory) is impossible according to science, as the second law of science states something cannot come from nothing. Thermal dynamics further backs this point.
Also evolution is evident of course, but evolution was here and evident long before the term science was ever concieved, which makes the point of claiming science as the FACTUAL basis for life mute, science only shows what was allready here, or a THEORY based of mathimatical calculations...
but evolution as a form of creation cannot exsist, DARWIN even aknowledged this before he died.
Carbon dating is not fact, it is still a guess, many carbon dated items have been changed by many millions of years, because it is not a solid basis as to which we can judge or determine time, but it the best option that we have.
your best bet is to believe in what your heart and mind tell you, and forget what others(like myself)try to tell you...lol
science does not BACK the THEORY of evolution, as evolution(in the form of creation, I.E. the big bang theory) is impossible according to science, as the second law of science states something cannot come from nothing. Thermal dynamics further backs this point.
Also evolution is evident of course, but evolution was here and evident long before the term science was ever concieved, which makes the point of claiming science as the FACTUAL basis for life mute, science only shows what was allready here, or a THEORY based of mathimatical calculations...
but evolution as a form of creation cannot exsist, DARWIN even aknowledged this before he died.
Carbon dating is not fact, it is still a guess, many carbon dated items have been changed by many millions of years, because it is not a solid basis as to which we can judge or determine time, but it the best option that we have.
your best bet is to believe in what your heart and mind tell you, and forget what others(like myself)try to tell you...lol
@2-0-Sixx
When I implied that the big-bang theory isn't fully responsible for existence and you said, "I never said it was", Then why did you bring it up? It hold no point against the existence of God. Random info?
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You could say, in a sense....
mind is to brain; as spirit is to body.
Mind, itself, is not a physical thing. And often times mind and spirit can be switched in many contexts. A very good perspective on mind is written in the book, "The Science of Mind" by Ernest Holmes. He explains better what mind is scientifically, philosophically and spiritually.
When I implied that the big-bang theory isn't fully responsible for existence and you said, "I never said it was", Then why did you bring it up? It hold no point against the existence of God. Random info?
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You could say, in a sense....
mind is to brain; as spirit is to body.
Mind, itself, is not a physical thing. And often times mind and spirit can be switched in many contexts. A very good perspective on mind is written in the book, "The Science of Mind" by Ernest Holmes. He explains better what mind is scientifically, philosophically and spiritually.
something cannot come from nothing
very true. As Einstien said "something must move before something else moves". I dont know if that is a direct quote. Soemthing along those lines though.
From all these points follows that the name into which we are inquiring applies to one and the same science: this must be the one that studies first principles and causes, for the good and the purpose of things are among these causes. Aristotle
the big bang theory also lacks because it is evident that there are two sides. What is on the other side?
How am I irrational? I have yet to have a definition. If I am irrational so be it.
Answer these questions then....
What is the natue or knowledge, and what are its ultimate grounds?
How is the mind related to the body?
How is pleasure related to goodness?
very true. As Einstien said "something must move before something else moves". I dont know if that is a direct quote. Soemthing along those lines though.
From all these points follows that the name into which we are inquiring applies to one and the same science: this must be the one that studies first principles and causes, for the good and the purpose of things are among these causes. Aristotle
the big bang theory also lacks because it is evident that there are two sides. What is on the other side?
How am I irrational? I have yet to have a definition. If I am irrational so be it.
Answer these questions then....
What is the natue or knowledge, and what are its ultimate grounds?
How is the mind related to the body?
How is pleasure related to goodness?
Iwas just playin about the irrational thing. Just thought I throw in a diss since you tried to conceal your identity.
I don’t understand what your asking. Can you reword this question?
Hmmmm. The mind is inside the body. I don’t know what else you want. The mind is in your brain. LOL
I'm really not trying to be funny here Tim...
Hmmmm again. I don’t think they are related at all. I don’t know what "goodness" is to you, but it doesn’t mean anything to me.
I don’t know what the purpose of these questions are. I'm sure there is some reason behind them, so Tim, please explain.
I don’t understand what your asking. Can you reword this question?
Hmmmm. The mind is inside the body. I don’t know what else you want. The mind is in your brain. LOL
I'm really not trying to be funny here Tim...
Hmmmm again. I don’t think they are related at all. I don’t know what "goodness" is to you, but it doesn’t mean anything to me.
I don’t know what the purpose of these questions are. I'm sure there is some reason behind them, so Tim, please explain.
@XianeX
The point is..... there is one mind. It isn't a matter of my isolated mind and your isolated mind. There is no true isolation. If there was a true isolation of mind then we could, in no way, communicate with each other. This is what I am talking about.
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a memory is a chemical compound
Ok. Does that make you feel more alive, or less?
The point is..... there is one mind. It isn't a matter of my isolated mind and your isolated mind. There is no true isolation. If there was a true isolation of mind then we could, in no way, communicate with each other. This is what I am talking about.
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a memory is a chemical compound
Ok. Does that make you feel more alive, or less?