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Looks like J-Russ is going to hold out for a while.
Looks like J-Russ is going to hold out for a while.
Raiders give Culpepper a workout
- Thread starter P.K. Rippa
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weren't people talking about getting culpepper earlier to guide russell? I say cut walter and sign culpepper, have him start with mccown as the backup all while prepping russell to take over late in the season (unless culpepper does well and there's a chance to make the playoffs, but realisticly that probably won't happen)
ding ding ding ding
this is why JR holding out is more of a concern than say Quinn.
Quinn is holding out because he "thinks" he deserves higher pay even though he was drafted lower....that's a stalemate
on the other hand JR knew he was probably #1...Raiders knew they were probably drafting him...GET THE DEAL DONE BEFORE YOU PICK HIM!
Now the raiders could be getting screwed...if Lions cave into Calvins demands that makes JR's contract stance even higher!
Shoulda got it down.
And it's not about who is starting the season....TRAINING CAMP is about leraning the way the team runs....JR is not there......he's not learning, he's not gdtting to know the team, etc etc etc......
He is just falling more and more behind now...and this in turn causes more problems for raider nation
So this isn't like the other qb's holding out.....they should had him signed by noe, because if the lions cave into Calvin and what if the Browns cave into Quinn???? OUCH FOR THE RAIDERS!!!!!
this is why JR holding out is more of a concern than say Quinn.
Quinn is holding out because he "thinks" he deserves higher pay even though he was drafted lower....that's a stalemate
on the other hand JR knew he was probably #1...Raiders knew they were probably drafting him...GET THE DEAL DONE BEFORE YOU PICK HIM!
Now the raiders could be getting screwed...if Lions cave into Calvins demands that makes JR's contract stance even higher!
Shoulda got it down.
And it's not about who is starting the season....TRAINING CAMP is about leraning the way the team runs....JR is not there......he's not learning, he's not gdtting to know the team, etc etc etc......
He is just falling more and more behind now...and this in turn causes more problems for raider nation
So this isn't like the other qb's holding out.....they should had him signed by noe, because if the lions cave into Calvin and what if the Browns cave into Quinn???? OUCH FOR THE RAIDERS!!!!!
@ thascary 1...I agree mostly with what you said... but I say "Ouch" for other teams that are dealing with hold outs as well. Carolina, K.C., Detroit.
@Defy... I don't see Culpepper starting over McCown if they did sign Culpepper. It's McCown's job to lose. He's been there since day 1 and it wouldn't be fair for the Raiders to bring in Culpepper (who's not 100% anyway) and just hand him the starting job. McCown's been putting in the most work and has been a great team player so far. He's the starting Qb this year regardless of what happens with JR/Culpepper.
@Defy... I don't see Culpepper starting over McCown if they did sign Culpepper. It's McCown's job to lose. He's been there since day 1 and it wouldn't be fair for the Raiders to bring in Culpepper (who's not 100% anyway) and just hand him the starting job. McCown's been putting in the most work and has been a great team player so far. He's the starting Qb this year regardless of what happens with JR/Culpepper.
If anyone is looking like an idiot it's Brady Quinn. He fell in the draft and got the nerve to hold out. Cleveland did him a favor by drafting him he should at least do them a favor and accept what they're offering him. If Cleveland didn't draft him he probably would of ended up getting drafted in the second round.
^I'm a raider fan, I get my hopes up every time the season starts (yeah, I know thats setting me up for a joke :ermm
@Tony: it ain't really about who's been there since day one, its about who will benifit the team more. I don't see mccown as a better qb than culpepper. I think that if he's signed and gets in quickly he has a good chance of starting, and a hell of alot better than walter. kiffen seems like a logical coach and would have them compete for the starting position, not just hand it to someone because they've been with the raiders longer or they've been in the nfl longer.
scary - why is this 1st round qb holdout any different than any of the other 1st round qb holdouts in the past?
@Tony: it ain't really about who's been there since day one, its about who will benifit the team more. I don't see mccown as a better qb than culpepper. I think that if he's signed and gets in quickly he has a good chance of starting, and a hell of alot better than walter. kiffen seems like a logical coach and would have them compete for the starting position, not just hand it to someone because they've been with the raiders longer or they've been in the nfl longer.
scary - why is this 1st round qb holdout any different than any of the other 1st round qb holdouts in the past?
I hear you... but McCown has had an early jump as far as the playbook/training camp goes. You see Walter fell behind because he had surgery. He (McCown) has been puttin' in the most work... taking most snaps with the 1st team offense. Culpepper is not even fully recovered from his surgery or injury or whatever is going on with him. I think if they did sign Culpepper there would be no way he'd beat McCown out for the starting job at the beginning of the season. No way...
The NFL isn't a friend's league; it's a business. Fair doesn't mean shit...
Walter's been there longer than McCown; by your standards, HE should be the starter.
Culpepper > McCown...Culpepper's had a devestating injury, so he could have an excuse for underperforming for 2 years...McCown's never done anything in a relatively healthy career.
Walter's been there longer than McCown; by your standards, HE should be the starter.
Culpepper > McCown...Culpepper's had a devestating injury, so he could have an excuse for underperforming for 2 years...McCown's never done anything in a relatively healthy career.
