Racism & War Perfect Together

[Ethereal]

^NO, IF A MEXICAN CALLS ME A "NIggER" THEN IT'S BEIN' PREJUDICE, UNLESS THAT MEXICAN HOLDS POWER AND KEEPS ME DOWN.

That doesn't make any sense. Prejudice is just the process of judging someone before you know the facts. Calling you a "nigger" is just a very degrading way of saying your "black". If he see's that you have "black" skin, what other facts does he need to know in order to correctly state that you are indeed, a person of "black" skin. See what I'm saying? Racism on the other hand is just degrading someone or deviding someone based solely on the color of their skin, hence the word "race" in the term.

Prejudice is judging someone before you know the facts, it doesn't necessarily involve race. If I call you a fag then that would be prejudice. Racism is based strictly upon race and the color of skin. The defenition as society knows it, as written in our dictionaries backs up these claims:

rac·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

It has nothing to do with power. If you want to believe that it must contain power, then that is your god goven right, but can you honestly say that if I started calling every black person a "nigger" that you wouldn't label me a racist?

I'm sorry man, this is just the way it is.

 

[EDJ]

IS THAT WHY WHEN SOMEBODY USES THAT TERM IT IS MOSTLY LIKELY PERCEIVED THAT IT IS A WHITE PERSON BEIN' THE "RACIST"?

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Because the only racism that garners attention is white racism. Racism in Latinos or African-Americans is discounted for fear of the accuser being labeled a racist.

 

[EDJ]

^NOPE. IT gARNERS ATTENTION CAUSE PRE-DOMINANT ANgLO SOCIETY HOLDS POWER AND OPPRESSES OTHAS.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Actively? Presently? And would this be the white power sturcture (CEOs, Congressman, etc.) or individual whites?

 

[Ethereal]

IS THAT WHY WHEN SOMEBODY USES THAT TERM IT IS MOSTLY LIKELY PERCEIVED THAT IT IS A WHITE PERSON BEIN' THE "RACIST"?

Now to assume that a white person is the one being racist when that term is used, would definitely be prejudice. It's understandable that people from certain cultures would feel that way, given history, but it is prejudice any way you look at it.

The person saying the word is racist, whoever assumes he is white, is prejudice.

Actively? Presently? And would this be the white power sturcture (CEOs, Congressman, etc.) or individual whites?

That's the problem! He's generalizing.

"PRE-DOMINANT ANgLO SOCIETY HOLDS POWER AND OPPRESSES OTHAS."

What the fuck does this mean?!
What is this anglo society that you speak of?
Is that your way of saying everyone with "white" skin?

Corporate America? Government whites? All upperclass whites? From the middle on up? Every "white" person living in America? Rich or poor? Only racist and white supremacist people?

I have a hard time believing any of this because I have "white" skin, I don't hold any power, and I sure as hell don't opress anybody. How can you hold an entire race of humans in this manner, without regards to the capacity of each and every individual "white" person in this country?

 

[EDJ]

NITRO,
YOU STRESSED, "The person saying the word is racist, whoever assumes he is white, is prejudice."

YOU gOT IT CONFUSED. I SAID "TERM" AND NOW YOU THINK I'M TALKIN' BOUT A WORD. TO CLARIFY, WHAT WORD DO YOU THINK I'M TALKIN' BOUT? AND BY THE WAY, THE "N" WORD IS A DERROgATORY TERM TO SIgNIFY THE RACIST MENTALITY PERCEIVIN' THOSE THEY PERCEIVE AS XND CLASS AND IgNORANT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What is this anglo society that you speak of?
Is that your way of saying everyone with "white" skin?"

NAW MAN, IF I WAS TO INCLUDE EVERY WHITE PERSON THEN IT WOULDN'T BE FACTUAL AND I WOULDN'T OF USED THE TERM "PREDOMINANT". I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THIS CAPITALISTIC MAINSTREAM SOCIETY WE LIVE IN. THE MAJORITY OF THE MUTHA-FUKAS AND THEY SYSTEM OF THANgS.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

So it is racist now to point out racism?

Objectification works against the disempowered because they are disempowered. The process doesn’t work in reverse.

No, I have not said that it is racist to point out racism.

I have clearly been pointing out racism but not from the same **racist** perspective.

The material problem cannot be solved by material endeavor. This material energy has blinded us, and yet so many people want to seek an answer under this blinding contamination.

Understand what is spirit and what is matter. Know that they are completely different. Even if one gains some satisfaction from this material endeavor against racism, that will not last. The cure for ALL material disease is spiritual knowledge.
Everything else is oblivious pursuit.


Welcome to your own hell. We chose to be here, although we do not remember. Our choices in seeking pleasure disconnected from The Reservoir of Pleasure Himself, God, is why we suffer.
If you seek happiness, you seek God. If you don't seek God then you cannot have happiness.


The fool says, "let me secure my white position" or "let me secure my black position".

Let us secure our spiritual position!

There is no other business but this!!!!

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

5150 no one will hear you. I'm too busy securing my white position.

 

[EDJ]

^LOL

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

5150 no one will hear you. I'm too busy securing my white position.

Unfortunately, many are confused in this way.


The first thing is to know that one is not the body. Without that knowledge everything else is illusion.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I would be in a world of alot less illusion if you fucking spoke in meaningful, declarative sentences.

No one needs to be down with your fuckin hoobabba World's Fair mysticism to get in the right direction, or espouse or support your beliefs. Say something concrete that we can go on. One is not the body. OK, what do I do with this? Where do I go with this? What form must one reach or understand?

Where is the social and societal application of your beliefs? I'm sorry but half the time your posts are like getting answers from an 8ball.

"Answer unclear, try again"

"Somewhat likely"

 

[EDJ]

^LOL

 

[HERESY]

I would be in a world of alot less illusion if you fucking spoke in meaningful, declarative sentences.

No one needs to be down with your fuckin hoobabba World's Fair mysticism to get in the right direction, or espouse or support your beliefs. Say something concrete that we can go on. One is not the body. OK, what do I do with this? Where do I go with this? What form must one reach or understand?

Where is the social and societal application of your beliefs? I'm sorry but half the time your posts are like getting answers from an 8ball.

"Answer unclear, try again"

"Somewhat likely"

:dead: :dead: :dead:

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

I would be in a world of alot less illusion if you fucking spoke in meaningful, declarative sentences.

If it lacks meaning to you, that is your affair. But you could inquire from me to explain in more depth, possibly in a more sincere manner.

No one needs to be down with your fuckin hoobabba World's Fair mysticism to get in the right direction, or espouse or support your beliefs. Say something concrete that we can go on. One is not the body. OK, what do I do with this? Where do I go with this? What form must one reach or understand?

The idea is... you are not the body, so why are you struggling simply to better the position of that which you are not?

The problem isn't in being one race or the other. The problem is that we are covered by this material energy. We, because of this, are susceptible to birth, death, disease and old age; not to mention the topic of this thread, racism.
You will either find a way to cure all of these material problems or you will find some method for temporary satisfaction of perhaps one or two problems.

To actually cure all problems with lasting affect, that is spiritual knowledge. You can sit here all day about what white people and what black people should or should not do, blah blah blah.

Everything I am talking about is very practical, not simply some mystical hodge-podge. If you seek proper application of it then there are literatures I can refer you to. You can also hit me up in a PM for more information.

Where is the social and societal application of your beliefs? I'm sorry but half the time your posts are like getting answers from an 8ball.

"Answer unclear, try again"

"Somewhat likely"

The social and societal application of my beliefs are based on the fact that one's primary duty is to seek knowledge from those who have it. Based on the fact that one is spirit-soul and not the body, we should act in regard to our eternal relationship. Sanatana Dharma. Sanatana means eternal; without beginning and without end; and Dharma means "the capacity to render service". We must seek that relationship and the proper methods for rendering service. Of course, I am speaking about our relationship to God.

That is all that we have ever needed... simply to surrender to God.


If you have anymore difficulty, Pm me.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I was actually being sarcastic in my post, which held more comedic intention than anything.

I find your viewpoint very interesting, and agree in this respect; one must transcend labels and conventional dogmas in order to achieve any sort of understanding in regards to anything.

When I say "white america" or "black people" I am not necessarily referring to "people with white skin" or "people with black skin/african origins". The reference is to ethnicity and identification. There is much less singularity among "whites" than "blacks", but commonalities may still be drawn based on comparison and averages.

The statement "If someone is black, they will, more likely, listen to hip-hop/r&b/jazz/soul than a white person or identify culturally" is true, even if it is not correct 100 percent of the time. 51 is all I need.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

I was actually being sarcastic in my post, which held more comedic intention than anything.

I find your viewpoint very interesting, and agree in this respect; one must transcend labels and conventional dogmas in order to achieve any sort of understanding in regards to anything.

Ok.

When I say "white america" or "black people" I am not necessarily referring to "people with white skin" or "people with black skin/african origins". The reference is to ethnicity and identification. There is much less singularity among "whites" than "blacks", but commonalities may still be drawn based on comparison and averages.

I understand there are differences, generally, between whites and blacks. But my point is that...ok, we have identified differences... now what!?
What is it that we seek in these conversations? Do we not seek peace? Is that not what we all seek, regardless of ethnicity, color, culture, gender, etc?
I am trying to offer truth that is applicable to all people, regardless of these material differences. We cannot attain peace simply by knowing and acting on the fact that, on a material level, we are different from each other. If one man has good facility for being a business owner, let him act in that capacity. If another man has good facility for being a manual laborer, let him act in such a way. Currently, I see that everyone wants to be equated on a material level. We must act according to what we are qualified for. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. No matter what one's societal position is, one can come to the highest stage of knowledge. We are fighting for that which is temporary. Why not attach oneself to something that is eternal?

The statement "If someone is black, they will, more likely, listen to hip-hop/r&b/jazz/soul than a white person or identify culturally" is true, even if it is not correct 100 percent of the time. 51 is all I need.

And I do not disagree.

But that is neither here nor there. What is it we are seeking? I would say it is peace we want. But maybe I am wrong...

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Some would not agree, but that last statement *is* neither here nor there, and is quite immaterial to a discussion of spirituality. Some people feel a need to defend very material and very earthly values and ideals. In your opinion an enlightened mind seeks peace, and I agree, since what we all seek is some variant of peace. Unless it is in your nature to seek evil, in which case, there is not much the rest of us can do.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

I would say, one seeking evil is seeking peace in evil...

But then, we must have a standard to define, absolutely, what is good and what is evil.

No one is looking for chaos. The simple fact that we are consciously looking constitutes that we seek order. We want absolute order, we want to have that "peace" of mind. Some, (actually most) of us are seeking peace in "evil" things. We think, "If I can secure this material position, I will be happy." That is called maya. Maya is the illusory material energy.

We seek God, but most of us do not know. Even atheists seek God. There is no peace in chaos. God is Supreme Order. He is The Reservoir of Happiness/Peace. If we are seeking happiness/peace, then we are seeking Him.

 

[EDJ]

51 is all I need.

WHY 51?