Questioning Hell........?

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Hemp

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the reality of this book is that he actually has found a "deeper" more meaningful truth, rather than info about egyptians.
the truth is that life is perception/concepts, and you can use your current perception to upgrade into a better understanding, all the way until you see that life is not what it seems, as everybody in here does by gripping their false sense of reality and defend it to the death.


people, how you see reality ONLY YOU individually see, out of the billions of people.
this means that none of our realities really matter because according to our current perception, only one reality is existant.

God i wish i can get you guys to see how important this really is, but what can i say, a perception limits what can be understood or attained and what not.

maybe you can do your own little observation and analyzation of self and grow from there.
 
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Genesis 3:19 says:

"In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken, for dust you are and dust you will return."

That statement leaves no room for an immortal "Soul"

Ecclesiastes 9:5 says:
"For the living are concious that they will die, but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages because the rememberance of them has been forgotten."

If you are conscious of nothing, how can you be conscious of burning?

IMHO we are nothing when we die. We cease to exist. We do not have souls that live on, and if you think about it, for alot of people that is better than suffering which God is not capable of such a thing and as far as the dead loved ones, ghosts, and spirits that you hear about that haunt places and communicate with the living, (via Ouija Boards, Witchcraft, Sylvia Browne and the rest of the psycho friends network.) they are no more than Satan and the Demons trying to mislead us by taking our attention off of the truth....
 
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im not sure on exactly what hell is but id hate to be the person who underestimates what it is...il agree the hell that is generally accepted by christian sounds kinda like a scare tactic but better safe than sorry meaning if ur a christian and u arent sure what hell is i think it unwise to be a say that ur 100% sure hell wont be as bad as people say
 
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rawtunes said:
im not sure on exactly what hell is but id hate to be the person who underestimates what it is...il agree the hell that is generally accepted by christian sounds kinda like a scare tactic but better safe than sorry meaning if ur a christian and u arent sure what hell is i think it unwise to be a say that ur 100% sure hell wont be as bad as people say
^^That's the point, that's what THEY say it is, not what the BIBLE says it is.
 

Hemp

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dont forget that there are billions of people who never read the bible and never will want to read it.
they still matter because you have the same exact chance of being them that they had, and you wont be any different from them.

fix your priorities
 
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Big E said:
Genesis 3:19 says:

"In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken, for dust you are and dust you will return."

That statement leaves no room for an immortal "Soul"

Ecclesiastes 9:5 says:
"For the living are concious that they will die, but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages because the rememberance of them has been forgotten."

If you are conscious of nothing, how can you be conscious of burning?

IMHO we are nothing when we die. We cease to exist. We do not have souls that live on, and if you think about it, for alot of people that is better than suffering which God is not capable of such a thing and as far as the dead loved ones, ghosts, and spirits that you hear about that haunt places and communicate with the living, (via Ouija Boards, Witchcraft, Sylvia Browne and the rest of the psycho friends network.) they are no more than Satan and the Demons trying to mislead us by taking our attention off of the truth....
Well, I'll tell you this... If Judaism/Christianity teach that there is no soul, then those religions are worthless. That which is not eternal cannot have a relationship with an eternal God.
 
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Hemp said:
This is R. A. Schwaller de Lubiczs mindblowing book The Temple in Man - "Sacred Architecture and the Perfect Man (1977) which constitutes a major breakthrough in our understanding of ancient Egypt and the true esoteric meaning of its monumental architecture. His many years of research in medieval hermeticism and its expression in cathedral architecture led him to the discovery that the very same principles informed the sacred architecture of ancient Egypt. This insight prompted him to undertake fifteen years of on-site research at Luxor Temple. He measured the entire temple, including every block and inscription, and proved that the plan of the temple was rigorously based upon human proportions and designed to symbolically represent man. Each detail of masonry and symbolic art expresses an element of the Egyptians comprehensive knowledge of mans physical and spiritual anatomy. The human being embodied in the geometry of the temples architecture is Pharaoh, symbolic of the Perfect Man. In Egypt, Pharaoh represented the final stage of mans evolution, his ultimate divinization. The Temple in Man awakens us to the inevitable resurrection of the spiritual essence of man which has involved itself in matter. This resurrection depends upon the transformation of the material universe and is the sole cosmic goal. Every human birth participates in this alchemy, either in a conscious manner, through the intentional perfecting and manifesting of ones higher nature, or unconsciously, through the tumult and suffering of experience that lead eventually to spiritual self-awareness?the temple in man. Schwaller de Lubiczs great work, grounded in a remarkable insight into the science and philosophy of the ancient world, opens the way to a complete reappraisal of Egyptian civilization, revolutionizing our view of history. This book contains the first published results of Schwallers 12 years of research at the temple of Luxor and its implications for interpreting the symbolic and mathematical processes of the Egyptians through their sacred architecture. 130 pages, many pictures. A must read for everyone."

my understanding and perception is this^, and ever since age 12 i have actually been consciously building the road in front of me on my path to the higher self.
lol alot of you may be laughin, but that doesnt bother me because i know its there.


get the torrent while i seed

http://www.meganova.org/download/Lu...7370f4f0790044a4e7736d630fa84fc0445ef.torrent
Video is still downloading, however, I will briefly comment now as Schwaller seems to have an interesting P.O.V., actually grounded in Egyptian philosophy and knowledge of geometric shapes. The Egyptians adhered to the divine principles of "Ma'at". Ma'at was ubiquitously identified with order, balance, right/wrong and divinity that stretched back to the point of creation. It is the never ending flow of what is harmonized in nature its self, in which the Egyptians were connected. Ma'at was the sort of unifying force that connected all that is, an impregnable energy that consisted of laws and codes of ethics, that was to be followed by all mankind..

Egypt is also the first place to seemingly possess the first example of the flower of life.



^The flower of life is a symbol of sacred geometry, supposedly a tool used to unlock the secrets of creation and the building blocks of life. It has been compared to the buckminsterfullerene molecule and the dimensions of space/time its self.. The Egyptians obviously had a unique understanding of geometry and similar concepts to that of the Greek's "golden ratio". Even the pyramids were aligned astronomically with the proportions of Osiris(Orion).. Again, very interesting and thanx for the post, still waiting on the DL to finish..
 
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JLMACN said:
haha....yea you were off, but that is why I did not type some sort of "you need to watch the video" rebuttal. lol

Although, I do not see myself changing my Atheist ideas, I do however, see some homosexuals and outcasts alike being "saved".
^LOL, word.. And yes, that really displays the beauty in his message(salvation for all)..

taetae said:
The reason to follow God's law in this case is to enrich your (and others) life here on earth, as opposed to following the law out of fear of damnation.
I see what you guys mean and I can't entirely disagree with it, but the phrase "fear God" would no longer apply, however, I am who I am more so because of the reasons you give. If someone killed my mom for example, I wouldn't fear God in the least either way as irrationality takes over, some people are naturally irrational. But yes, this can't be argued against, nothing good(God or no God) comes from negativity..