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Yes, "science shit", what does fuckin bacteria and other forms of life have to do with the Christian Bible's tree of Life? Nothing. Really, I want to know what is your impetus to shove science bs down peoples' throats any chance you get... your fanaticism is akin to religious zealots.... I'm waiting for you to pop someone's top over triglycerides or some shit.
 
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Nine one six they were 'immortal' I guess but they lost it because they ate from the tree

Sounds to me like it was gonna happen sooner or later one way or another
What I was asking was if they were initially immortal, why did the tree that grants immortality exist in the first place? The only possible answer I could conceive is that Adam and Eve were required to regularly eat from the tree of life in order to maintain their immortality. Although, I do not think this is really explained in the text.
 
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Nine one six they were 'immortal' I guess but they lost it because they ate from the tree

Sounds to me like it was gonna happen sooner or later one way or another
The Tree of LIfe is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is Satan. It's typing the Two Powers. Good and Evil, Heaven and Hell. The Tree of Life feeds them the Word of God, they walk in perfect communion and fellowship with God as he speaks The Words of Life to them, and as long as they dwell within the Word and eat(or partake) of the Life of the Tree of Life which is eternal life from the Lord Jesus Christ, they remain immortal. But when they ate the "forbidden fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, they died because they commited two Sins. The Sin of Sex and the Sin of Disobedience. Adam wasnt' supposed to have sex with Eve, he was to bring forth his Own Children, by speaking the Word of God. Speaking them into existence.
 
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Yes, "science shit", what does fuckin bacteria and other forms of life have to do with the Christian Bible's tree of Life? Nothing. Really, I want to know what is your impetus to shove science bs down peoples' throats any chance you get... your fanaticism is akin to religious zealots.... I'm waiting for you to pop someone's top over triglycerides or some shit.
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What I was asking was if they were initially immortal, why did the tree that grants immortality exist in the first place? The only possible answer I could conceive is that Adam and Eve were required to regularly eat from the tree of life in order to maintain their immortality. Although, I do not think this is really explained in the text.
Youre coming at it from too structural / hindu / philosophical an angle

The God of the christian Bible does not need to make logical sense or connect dots

The Bible states simply that they were immortal

When they ate of the forbidden fruit, they were punished with mortality - death, pain, etc.

Even this is not explicitly stated in logical terms either

The God of the Old Testament is akin to an angry dad

99% of the time he is either praising or scolding behavior

This time, they made a booboo, so they got a timeout
 

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The Tree of LIfe is the Lord Jesus Christ, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is Satan. It's typing the Two Powers. Good and Evil, Heaven and Hell. The Tree of Life feeds them the Word of God, they walk in perfect communion and fellowship with God as he speaks The Words of Life to them, and as long as they dwell within the Word and eat(or partake) of the Life of the Tree of Life which is eternal life from the Lord Jesus Christ, they remain immortal. But when they ate the "forbidden fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, they died because they commited two Sins. The Sin of Sex and the Sin of Disobedience. Adam wasnt' supposed to have sex with Eve, he was to bring forth his Own Children, by speaking the Word of God. Speaking them into existence.
So he was supposed to bring forth his own children by speaking the word of God, yet they are told to be fruitful and multiply? Not only that, in the NT, Jesus says man was made for a woman and the two shall become one. Finally, if they commited "the sin of sex" (whatever that means) did they do it before or after they ate from the tree? Please don't tell me you're one of those people who think she had sex with Satan.
 

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uh, no, I don't do it on purpose, it is just that the image is big

and it is big because it has a lot of information on it that will be lost/difficult to understand if it is small

and in this case I told him to buy a bigger screen because he doesn't appreciate what I said, not because I really mean it
1. You can shrink the image down.

2. In another thread I asked you to shrink the image down and told you why I was asking and your response was get another monitor.

3. You do this shit on purpose because you want to control people and force your views on them (just look at what you asked 916.) If your idea of having power over people is your ability to post jpegs and waste bandwidth I feel sorry for you.
 

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If I shrink the image down, nobody will be able to read the letters and it will be even harder to find where Homo sapiens is on it, and it's already hard to do that
 
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So he was supposed to bring forth his own children by speaking the word of God, yet they are told to be fruitful and multiply? Not only that, in the NT, Jesus says man was made for a woman and the two shall become one. Finally, if they commited "the sin of sex" (whatever that means) did they do it before or after they ate from the tree? Please don't tell me you're one of those people who think she had sex with Satan.
If you look in the Strongs Cordordance for the Word Serpent, it means Upright One, The Shining One. THE MOST SUBTIL beast of the Field. The son bares the character of his Father, Do you honestly think Cain, being a murderer, was of Adam? ADAM WAS A SON OF GOD, he was not deceived as the NT says. EVE was deceived, but Adam became her Kinsman redeemer, Because ADAM was OF God, why do you think he is called the (s)on of God. 1st John 3:12 CAIN WAS OF THAT WICKED ONE, Spiritually and Physically speaking.

The Serpent was not a Reptile, HE WAS A BEAST warm blooded animal at that time. God cursed him, and in Genesis 3:15 he tells the Serpent(who was under control of satan because the beast had no soul, just like the Pigs that were over taken by Legion in the land of Gedara) I WILL PUT ENMITE(HATE) with THY SEED, CAIN and the WOMAN'S SEED(THE LINEAGE OF SETH WHICH EVENTUALLY WAS CHRIST, WHICH. The SEED of the Serpent which was of the Lineage of Cain throughout the age persecuted the Lineage of Christ. When it said that the Sons of God saw that the Sons of men were fair and they fall. THOSE OF THE LINEAGE OF SETH saw the Daughters of CAIN(worldly women and immoral and beautiful) fair. THE LINEAGE OF SETH WAS NEVER TO MINGLE WITH CAIN, because cain's seed was of The Serpent, Seth's seed was of Adam, The First son of God, ONE EARTH.

Do you honestly think the Plan of redemption was from some stupid fruit? A literal apple or pomegranate? NO! Why do you think Jesus needed to be born of a virgin birth, Because sex, although in marriage is PART OF THE PERMISSIVE WILL AND NO THE PERFECT WILL OF GOD because it involves LUST, he had to be born as Adam was. The Original Creation which is the Spoken Word of God. It says be fruitful and Multiply, If you look throughout the Old TESTAMENT it types everything beautifully with the NT and the Plan of Redemption. Remember Moses and Joshua? What could they do, because they were prophets and sons of God? They could speak the Word, Moses spoke things into existence and Joshua held back the Sun.

Adam was of God, he was a Spoken Creation. Adam was to bring forth of his own kind, by Speaking the Word of God and bringing forth Children onto this earth. When God allowed the Fall in the Garden of Eden, IT WAS ALL PART OF HIS PLAN OF REDEMPTION. SO PERFECT! Man fell because of Lust, And through that Lineage of Seth, God would have a virgin Man Child, Name Yeshua who would not be born of lustful sex, but of SPOKEN WORD creation. That seed in Genesis 3:15 of the Woman was the Holy Ghost, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Brother this goes deeper than any scholar or intellectual conception of the Bible. I've learned soo much of the Word of God, it's become not only a book of History buts it's become alive to me.
 
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Youre coming at it from too structural / hindu / philosophical an angle
Lol, what!? What is "hindu" about how I'm coming at it?


The God of the christian Bible does not need to make logical sense or connect dots

The Bible states simply that they were immortal

When they ate of the forbidden fruit, they were punished with mortality - death, pain, etc.

Even this is not explicitly stated in logical terms either

The God of the Old Testament is akin to an angry dad

99% of the time he is either praising or scolding behavior

This time, they made a booboo, so they got a timeout
I understand that they were immortal and then became mortal when they disobeyed. I am asking why there was a tree that grants immortality if they were already immortal to begin with.
 

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If I shrink the image down, nobody will be able to read the letters and it will be even harder to find where Homo sapiens is on it, and it's already hard to do that
I just shrunk the image to 50/50 and I can read everything on it. You can shrink the image down, and if you feel you don't have to, or can't, you should provide a link to the image instead of killing threads.
 

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If you look in the Strongs Cordordance for the Word Serpent, it means Upright One, The Shining One. THE MOST SUBTIL beast of the Field. The son bares the character of his Father, Do you honestly think Cain, being a murderer, was of Adam? ADAM WAS A SON OF GOD, he was not deceived as the NT says. EVE was deceived, but Adam became her Kinsman redeemer, Because ADAM was OF God, why do you think he is called the (s)on of God. 1st John 3:12 CAIN WAS OF THAT WICKED ONE, Spiritually and Physically speaking. The Serpent was not a Reptile, HE WAS A BEAST warm blooded animal at that time. God cursed him, and in Genesis 3:15 he tells the Serpent(who was under control of satan because the beast had no soul, just like the Pigs that were over taken by Legion in the land of Gedara) I WILL PUT ENMITE(HATE) with THY SEED, CAIN and the WOMAN'S SEED(THE LINEAGE OF SETH WHICH EVENTUALLY WAS CHRIST, WHICH. The SEED of the Serpent which was of the Lineage of Cain throughout the age persecuted the Lineage of Christ. When it said that the Sons of God saw that the Sons of men were fair and they fall. THOSE OF THE LINEAGE OF SETH saw the Daughters of CAIN(worldly women and immoral and beautiful) fair. THE LINEAGE OF SETH WAS NEVER TO MINGLE WITH CAIN, because cain's seed was of The Serpent, Seth's seed was of Adam, The First son of God, ONE EARTH.

Do you honestly think the Plan of redemption was from some stupid fruit? A literal apple or pomegranate? NO! Why do you think Jesus needed to be born of a virgin birth, Because sex, although in marriage is PART OF THE PERMISSIVE WILL AND NO THE PERFECT WILL OF GOD because it involves LUST, he had to be born as Adam was. The Original Creation which is the Spoken Word of God. It says be fruitful and Multiply, If you look throughout the Old TESTAMENT it types everything beautifully with the NT and the Plan of Redemption. Remember Moses and Joshua? What could they do, because they were prophets and sons of God? They could speak the Word, Moses spoke things into existence and Joshua held back the Sun.

Adam was of God, he was a Spoken Creation. Adam was to bring forth of his own kind, by Speaking the Word of God and bringing forth Children onto this earth. When God allowed the Fall in the Garden of Eden, IT WAS ALL PART OF HIS PLAN OF REDEMPTION. SO PERFECT! Man fell because of Lust, And through that Lineage of Seth, God would have a virgin Man Child, Name Yeshua who would not be born of lustful sex, but of SPOKEN WORD creation. That seed in Genesis 3:15 of the Woman was the Holy Ghost, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Brother this goes deeper than any scholar or intellectual conception of the Bible. I've learned soo much of the Word of God, it's become not only a book of History buts it's become alive to me.
I knew it. A person who believes the two had sex. This convo was over before it started.

EDIT: And there are too many points for me to quote and poke holes through (like Adam being a spoken word creation yet 3:19 states something physical.)
 
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I knew it. A person who believes the two had sex. This convo was over before it started.

EDIT: And there are too many points for me to quote and poke holes through (like Adam being a spoken word creation yet 3:19 states something physical.)
You are a definition of those that are wise and Prudent in their own understanding. You said it's over, and yet haven't open your mind to what I'm telling you. It's deeper than ten years studying the bible or whatever it is. ITs revelation from the Holy Ghost, himself. And what about Genesis 3:19? What's your point? Adam had the LIFE OF GOD himself, BECAUSE GOD BREATHED INTO HIM ETERNAL LIFE. EVERYTHING ELSE didn't HAVE THIS LIFE in them.

You maybe shut people down with your knowledge of everything else, but this is something that you're going to have to ask God to show you. Cause obviously you've shut your mind completely with your own self understanding.

THEY WERE ALL SPOKEN WORD CREATION, but ADAM had the ZOE of God, THE life of God in him which made him more distinct than any other person. He had total dominion of the Earth, and when he lost dominion the SON OF MAN, Jesus Christ, after calvary took back that dominion that Satan Stole, and put it back in His Church, and in the Last Days his bride.
 

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You are a definition of those that are wise and Prudent in their own understanding.
No, I was able to see it coming a mile away. The only thing I did was get to a couple of main points and pose a question that proved what I was thinking. This has nothing to do with you personally, but everything to do with what I've already encountered.

You said it's over, and yet haven't open your mind to what I'm telling you. It's deeper than ten years studying the bible or whatever it is.
How have I not opened my mind when I knew what you were talking about and mentioned it before you actually confirmed it? There is no point in discussing it because you are going to believe what you are going to believe. I am going to believe what I am going to believe.

ITs revelation from the Holy Ghost, himself.
WILLIAM MARRION BRANHAM.

And what about Genesis 3:19? What's your point? Adam had the LIFE OF GOD himself, BECAUSE GOD BREATHED INTO HIM ETERNAL LIFE. EVERYTHING ELSE didn't HAVE THIS LIFE in them.
See, this is why I don't want to go into this. In reference to Adam you said:

he was a Spoken Creation
So, a spoken creation would be something that is spoken into existence correct? Let there be light, let there be animals, let there be fruit roll ups, let there be nintendo. Whatever the case may be, when it is spoken it exists right? Right, so the verse I gave you says Adam was taken from the ground, and would return to the ground. This contradicts him being a spoken creation like you suggested, but wait it gets even better. 2:7 shows a two part process. God forming man from the ground, and then breathing into him. With that being said, since when is forming something out of the ground, and breathing into it, speaking it into existence?

You maybe shut people down with your knowledge of everything else, but this is something that you're going to have to ask God to show you. Cause obviously you've shut your mind completely with your own self understanding.
Nah, it's just I'm not gonna waste my time goin over something when I know nothing good will come from it.

THEY WERE ALL SPOKEN WORD CREATION, but ADAM had the ZOE of God, THE life of God in him which made him more distinct than any other person. He had total dominion of the Earth, and when he lost dominion the SON OF MAN, Jesus Christ, after calvary took back that dominion that Satan Stole, and put it back in His Church, and in the Last Days his bride.
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HERESY When The Lord chose men to follow him were they as wise as you? Moses was probably the smartest man during his time, took him 40 years of knowledge on War from the Egyptians and all he could do was kill one man. Then it took him an experience with God himself, threw out all that knowledge and with that new experience Killed a legion of Egyptians with the Hand of God beside Him. Paul being a great Student of the Law, had to die out and give out his own knowledge and understanding, and it took an experience with the Pillar of Fire to change him. He came not with enticing words, BUT BY DEMONSTRATION of the Power of the Holy Ghost.

Oh and why do you put out the Name of William Marrion Branham? And before you say anything against the Man, consider that his works were of God and his prophecies THAT WERE THUS SAITH THE LORD were the Works of the Holy Ghost. And should you mock or blaspheme them, You know what scripture says.

Yes, I maybe crazy, but they said the Same thing on the day of Pentecost.