purpose of eternal hell
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EDJ,
the dilemna of "why are we here if our eternal destination is heaven" exists in Christianity too. One supposition of nearly every modern religion is that mankind has lost "its way" to completeness and spiritual fulfillment. The answer to that is easy, and found in the Bible.
Also, if Christians are to be examples of Christ, then there is a simple illustration for one's life. Live, be tested, face the world, and lay down your life, either in physical form or in servitude.
or simply... "To live is Christ. To die is gain."
the dilemna of "why are we here if our eternal destination is heaven" exists in Christianity too. One supposition of nearly every modern religion is that mankind has lost "its way" to completeness and spiritual fulfillment. The answer to that is easy, and found in the Bible.
Also, if Christians are to be examples of Christ, then there is a simple illustration for one's life. Live, be tested, face the world, and lay down your life, either in physical form or in servitude.
or simply... "To live is Christ. To die is gain."
JLMACN,
WHAT CHESS gAME? WHAT'S THE REWARD?
WHITE DEVIL,
YOU TRYIN' TO PREACH NOW EX-ATHEIST-LOAK? I KNOW IT'S FOUND IN CHRISTIANITY, BUT THERE'S SO MANY CHRISTIAN SECTS WITH DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS OF SCRIPTURE THAT SOMEBODY IS RIgHT AND THE REST ARE LIES(MISTRANSLATIONS AND CONCEPTS). AND WHERE IN SCRIPTURE IS IT FOUND WHAT YOU SPEAK OF?
WHAT CHESS gAME? WHAT'S THE REWARD?
WHITE DEVIL,
YOU TRYIN' TO PREACH NOW EX-ATHEIST-LOAK? I KNOW IT'S FOUND IN CHRISTIANITY, BUT THERE'S SO MANY CHRISTIAN SECTS WITH DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS OF SCRIPTURE THAT SOMEBODY IS RIgHT AND THE REST ARE LIES(MISTRANSLATIONS AND CONCEPTS). AND WHERE IN SCRIPTURE IS IT FOUND WHAT YOU SPEAK OF?
The concept of emulation of Christ is all over the Bible.
The concept of giving up of yourself and servitude is also all over the Bible.
The example of Christ is supposed to be literal and symbolic - that Christians must live this way in both material and spiritual endeavors.
And I'm not trying to preach, I simply have alot of knowledge of the Bible/Christianity through my own personal endeavors and the fact that I was once a Christian.
The concept of giving up of yourself and servitude is also all over the Bible.
The example of Christ is supposed to be literal and symbolic - that Christians must live this way in both material and spiritual endeavors.
And I'm not trying to preach, I simply have alot of knowledge of the Bible/Christianity through my own personal endeavors and the fact that I was once a Christian.
Are you asking what are we doing or what are we supposed to be doing? Or are you asking why we have come here in the first place?
What we are typically doing is being ignorant of our relationship with God. What we should be doing is being conscious of that relationship and thus acting with that knowledge. We have fallen into conditioned life because at some point in our existence we desired to be independent enjoyers.
What we are typically doing is being ignorant of our relationship with God. What we should be doing is being conscious of that relationship and thus acting with that knowledge. We have fallen into conditioned life because at some point in our existence we desired to be independent enjoyers.
It wasn't that we were particularly aware of the consequences of our perversion. I think you're assuming that we chose pain over eternal pleasure knowing that we were choosing such. How exactly we fell into ignorance of God is inconceivable to us. All we do know is that we are fallen and so our purpose is to rectify ourselves.
Here is some more, from a different Bible.
"Here our Lord speaks of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin for which there is no forgiveness neither in this world nor in the world to come; he who commits this sin is in danger of eternal damnation."
So you can go murder 15 or a 100 people if you want, and be forgiven, you can do anything and be forgiven from ALL. But if you deny the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven.
"Here our Lord speaks of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the sin for which there is no forgiveness neither in this world nor in the world to come; he who commits this sin is in danger of eternal damnation."
So you can go murder 15 or a 100 people if you want, and be forgiven, you can do anything and be forgiven from ALL. But if you deny the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven.
Shalom Heresy.
Sorry for my distraction above.
I do have some knowledge.
What is blasphemy against the Ruach HaKodesh? (God's Spirit, Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost)
Long story short, it's an unpardonable sin. My personal answer for you is that to commit the sin you would have to view his spirit as evil, or unclean. Even if say, you knew it wasn't, and you denied the truth because you didn't care, and spoke out against it as evil.
Because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit" - Mark 3:30.
Since it's a lot to type, for more detail view Matthew 12:22-32 for a much better understanding, and an example. You can also find more relations in Mark 3:21-30.
Sorry for my distraction above.
I do have some knowledge.
What is blasphemy against the Ruach HaKodesh? (God's Spirit, Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost)
Long story short, it's an unpardonable sin. My personal answer for you is that to commit the sin you would have to view his spirit as evil, or unclean. Even if say, you knew it wasn't, and you denied the truth because you didn't care, and spoke out against it as evil.
Because they were saying, "He has an unclean spirit" - Mark 3:30.
Since it's a lot to type, for more detail view Matthew 12:22-32 for a much better understanding, and an example. You can also find more relations in Mark 3:21-30.
Masochism. To a masochist it would be the ultimate pain to withold him/her of the pain of which he/her so desires. Many people are masochists, but are unaware of their condition, thus folling into one end religions that are equivelant to an endless maze of guilt. The guilt turns to pain thus fullfilling the masochists subconcious desire for self destruction. Destruction of soul, a much more in the closet form of masochism.
sincerely,
every man dies eventually.
sincerely,
every man dies eventually.
Material pain and pleasure are relative. To a masochist, what we call pain is pleasure. Either way we view it, both pain and pleasure are merely fleeting experiences. To suffer, in an absolute sense, means enjoyment only as a counteraction to distress, which is what all material enjoyment is. For example, a man can have his head dunked in water for a couple minutes and then when it is taken out for just a few seconds he thinks that he is enjoying. For a masochist, what we consider pain is interrupted by "pleasure" (just switch the analogy around). Real pleasure/pain (pleasure and pain being nondifferent from each other on the absolute platform) is non-fleeting and eternal. Now, that absolute platform isn't divided. That would make no sense. Absolute means one. Although that oneness does not necessarily constitute a lack of variegatedness, to say that there is a separate place for eternal suffering and a separate place for eternal bliss proves that only one of these places can be referring to the absolute platform. If they were one and the same absolute pleasure/pain then both would constitute perfection in our eternal relationship with the absolute God since that is the eternal constitution of the soul. From what I understand, hell as per the Bible is not a place for souls who are observing this relationship. Therefore the true masochist is still unsatisfied in this hell. If we turn around to say that a masochist is someone who enjoys the oscillation between pain and pleasure then we see that the masochist fundamentally isn't any different than any of the other conditioned souls. Also, if this is what we refer to as a masochist then it contradicts the idea of eternal, uninterrupted suffering.
sincerely,
Nobody ever really dies
sincerely,
Nobody ever really dies