PS3 going to Flop..

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I see there are alot of people invested in Sony and Microsoft round here.
All this talk about Market Share and losing money. It's about gameplay. I think the PS3 will win that battle.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
Wrong.

Mario is the most recognizable character in gaming history. When people (gamers and non-gamers) think of video gaming they initially think of Nintendo and Mario. So it is impossible for Sony to be more recognizable than either Mario or Nintendo to the casual OR avid gamer.
I disagree...when was the last time Mario had a dope game???Its been years homie...they just put out that DS version....and thats about it....

If you ask ANY kid now....in their early teens...about which system THEY own?I guarntee a majority of them will say a PS2....and i mean a big majority...hell,EVERYONE I know owns a PS2...about half of them own a XBox...and only a select few oen a GC...and most of them have it for kids....

And as far as handheld shit...i was the ONLY person ive ever ENCOUNTERED....with a DS...but the big hit was and STILL is...the PSP....HANDS DOWN....in the US anyhow....

Havin "mascots" for consoles is a dead horse....alot of these games are being interchanged through consoles...so it doesnt apply to any ONE console...

So once again...its gonna be Sony....all the hype theyve created...and with HUGE success of the PS2...they will STILL crush the competition...and they will STILL be the most recognized console on the market...

miggidy said:
A "casual" gamer will not spend $500 or $600 on a gaming console.
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Youre right...but the RICH WHITE PARENTS WILL...cmon now...

a star impaled said:
well im getting a PS3 but I'm also getting a wii. however the wii is basicly to play old games, they've yet to offer anything new that really intrests me.
And thats what it comes down to...most people dont give 2 shits about the stupid "wand"...and just like OFF the message board....only a FEW people on here are really intrigued....go lok at the poll for "which console are you gonna buy?"....guess which one had the fewest????HMMMMMMM...ill give you a hint..it wasnt the PS3 or the 360....

Doberman said:
see there are alot of people invested in Sony and Microsoft round here.
All this talk about Market Share and losing money. It's about gameplay. I think the PS3 will win that battle.
DING!!DING!!!DING!!!!

We have a winner!!!

Look...the GC had a smaller price tag than the PS2 and the XBox...and MC and Sony outsold Nintendo then....same will happen now....

Bottom line...people are puttin too much on the Wii...and its still ruled by only a minority of console gamers...Sony is and ALWAYS will be...the leader of the pack....deal with it....
 
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miggidy said:
Why is the DS outselling the vastly superior PSP?
Especially in Japan.

Famitsu magazine (the bible of gaming in Japan) recently held a poll where close to 70% of the people polled said that they plan on purchasing the Nintendo Wii. And the main reason given was the PS3's price tag.

Remember, I said Japan and not the US :rolleyes:

fuck the ds, and i dont give a shit about japan's gaming "bible."

ill spend what i want to spend on whatever i want to spend on, money is no issue here.
 

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SiccFucc said:
you forgot to mention sony's investment in a little company called square...and i dont care who you are you cant argue with the pull that has.
Square is the ONLY thing thats even making me consider getting the PS3. 600 is too much though...that price tag is way too high for a kid who still plays his NES more than any other system. And is it worth it to pay $600 when the only games I care about are gonna be MGS4, Kingdom Hearts, and FF? Especially when Square has and will be developing games for the other systems?

I think Im just gonna save myself $350 and get the Wii.

Granted the last time I got the PS2 was soley because it had a DVD player in it, I'm not gonna invest in Blu-Ray until someone can prove to me that its actually going to be THE new medium for movies. I dont want any speculations. I'll hold out on buying that much for a system until it is already a FOUNDED format.
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
If you ask ANY kid now....in their early teens...about which system THEY own?I guarntee a majority of them will say a PS2....and i mean a big majority...hell,EVERYONE I know owns a PS2...about half of them own a XBox...and only a select few oen a GC...and most of them have it for kids....
No shit, the PS2 is by far the market leader.
All you have to do is check the numbers, you don't have to go around talking to teenage boys to find out.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
And as far as handheld shit...i was the ONLY person ive ever ENCOUNTERED....with a DS...but the big hit was and STILL is...the PSP....HANDS DOWN....in the US anyhow....
Again, check the numbers.
The severely under powered DS is kicking the PSP's @$$.
By a ratio of 3 to 1, both here in the US and in Japan.
http://nintendo.about.com/b/a/256530.htm

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Youre right...but the RICH WHITE PARENTS WILL...cmon now...
Rich white parents seem to be buying the cheaper DS over the more expensive PSP.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Look...the GC had a smaller price tag than the PS2 and the XBox...and MC and Sony outsold Nintendo then....same will happen now....
It's not that hard to figure out why.
Let me help you, the PS2 was still affordable.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Bottom line...people are puttin too much on the Wii...and its still ruled by only a minority of console gamers...Sony is and ALWAYS will be...the leader of the pack....deal with it....
Video game history always shows the market leader losing it's choke hold no later than two generations.
Nintendo was just as dominant back in the days and yet they lost their lead.
You cats are putting too much stock on Sony's current market share when they haven't even bit off 1% of the next gen market.
We all know Sony is the current leader, and they certainly are in a good position now. Fortunately for them, they have very solid relationships with publishers. But if the demand is there for other consoles, Sony will lose their loyalty. Case and point, the GTA franchise is no longer a Sony exclusive, not even a time based exclusive....
 
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UsA'sMostWanted said:
fuck the ds, and i dont give a shit about japan's gaming "bible."

ill spend what i want to spend on whatever i want to spend on, money is no issue here.
But of coarse, you're a Sony loyalist.
I already said nothing will stop you cats from buying a PS3.
 
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miggidy said:
No shit, the PS2 is by far the market leader.
All you have to do is check the numbers, you don't have to go around talking to teenage boys to find out.
I love when im right ans when people back that up...thanks.


Again, check the numbers.
The severely under powered DS is kicking the PSP's @$$.
By a ratio of 3 to 1, both here in the US and in Japan.
http://nintendo.about.com/b/a/256530.htm
Unless im blind...it only has an article on there about the sales in JAPAN...and its a 6-1....but whos shocked by that?Japan is the only place on EARTH...where Nintendo is still the shit....good for them!


Rich white parents seem to be buying the cheaper DS over the more expensive PSP.
Again...show me...i dont see any figures for the US...


It's not that hard to figure out why.
Let me help you, the PS2 was still affordable.
PS2=$300
GC=$150

But by all the Nintendo geeks statements...cheaper is better...right?


Video game history always shows the market leader losing it's choke hold no later than two generations.
Trends are meant to be broken...this is a new age of gaming my friend...

Nintendo was just as dominant back in the days and yet they lost their lead.
Advanced machines like the PS2...has intrigued the "casual gamer" as you so speak of...becuase of technology advancements...and also from rappers puttin them in their cars for the coolness factor....u dont see Ludacris with a GC in his trunk do ya?

You cats are putting too much stock on Sony's current market share when they haven't even bit off 1% of the next gen market.
I know...Sony is SOOOO sav...that they havent even RELEASED this fuckin mashin yet and muthafuckas is STILL goin all in...too bad Nintendo cant do that...unless were in Japan...

We all know Sony is the current leader, and they certainly are in a good position now. Fortunately for them, they have very solid relationships with publishers. But if the demand is there for other consoles, Sony will lose their loyalty. Case and point, the GTA franchise is no longer a Sony exclusive, not even a time based exclusive....
And?It hasnt been for awhile....I got all the GTA games on BOTH consoles...

It all comes down to preference on little things on this consoles...like CONTROLLERS....how many people need to bitch about the XBos controller before they change it?NOBODY liked that clunky piece of shit...even the "smaller" version was a bit much...

Look people...i LIKE Sony....theyve have never done me wrong with ANYTHING ive EVER bought from them...especially the PS1 & 2....so why would I jump ship for a "wand"????Seriously....how many of these "casual gamers"...who most likely are STONERS as welll....are gonna wanna get loaded and wave a fuckin wand around????Probably not very many!!!!

Another thing is...this shit is ALL speculation!!!!!No one knows SHIT...until this all happens...so maybe we should all shut the FUCK up....and let the hardware do the talking...we are just kickin our opinions around...some people want the gay paperweight known as the Wii....others want the overpriced PS3....and some own the middle-of-the-road-cant-quite-get-over-the-hump 360...
 

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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
I disagree...when was the last time Mario had a dope game???Its been years homie...they just put out that DS version....and thats about it....

If you ask ANY kid now....in their early teens...about which system THEY own?I guarntee a majority of them will say a PS2....and i mean a big majority...hell,EVERYONE I know owns a PS2...about half of them own a XBox...and only a select few oen a GC...and most of them have it for kids....

Look...the GC had a smaller price tag than the PS2 and the XBox...and MC and Sony outsold Nintendo then....same will happen now....
WITH THE WII, YOU BE ABLE TO PLAY ANY MARIO GAME, OR ALMOST ANY OLD NINTENDO GAME NES, SNES, AND SO ON. ABOUT THE GAME CUBE, IT HAD A SMALL PRICE TAG BUT THE WII IS A DIFFRENT STORY, IF PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN GET GOLDEN EYE ON THERE WII ITz OVER, AND THAT IS JUST ONE GOOD GAME, ITz MAKEIN ME WANT A WII JUST TYPEIN ABOUT IT. PS2 MIGHT HAVE OUT SOLD EVERYTHING, JUST REMEMBER THEY HAD A JUMP LIKE THE 360 DOES NOW, TIMEz CHANGE AND THE VIDEOz WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS THE GAME PLAY REMEMBER, IT IS A 256 BIT SYSTEM. I MYSELF HAVE NEVER BEEN INTO A "KIDz SYSTEM" LIKE YOU SAY, ASK ANY KID, I AM A MAN I HAVE A MANz SYSTEM A 360.
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Im still waiting for those numbers from the DS US sales....you gonna back this claim up or what?

DS is still leading in the US also, but not as dramatic as in the japanese market. I guess here in the states more PSP users were more into watching movies than playing video games, i read a poll where the only reason why people bought a PSP was to play movies. But that aspect of the system was a flop. also any PSP user will only point out the features of the system, i never heard them talk good about any of their ps2 ports..
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
I love when im right ans when people back that up...thanks.
I don't think anyone said you were wrong when it comes to Sony's share of the current gen market.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Unless im blind...it only has an article on there about the sales in JAPAN...and its a 6-1....but whos shocked by that?Japan is the only place on EARTH...where Nintendo is still the shit....good for them!

Again...show me...i dont see any figures for the US...
That very same website reported that the DS out sold the PSP by a ratio of 3 to 1 during the previous holiday season here in the US.
According to the website, the DS outsold the PSP in Japan at a ratio of 6 to 1 during that same time. (3 to 1 during the entire year).

My point is that in Japan, the DS is wiping the floor with the PSP.
Read the magazines, visit the websites; Japanese gamers are picking the Nintendo Wii as their next console of choice.
And in my honest opinion, the Wii is going to dominate the Japanese market according to the numbers we're seeing.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
PS2=$300
GC=$150

But by all the Nintendo geeks statements...cheaper is better...right?
Well Nintendo's user base does consist of younger gamers than the PS2 and Xbox user bases. So $$$ are much more of a concern to them.

However the point I was trying to make is that the reason why most gamers chose the PS2 over the cheaper Gamecube, aside from the obvious bigger choice of games line up; is that the PS2 was still affordable at it's highest price point of $300.
Remember that the original Playstation launched at that same price point, so $300 for a console is nothing new to gamers.
Hell M$ was stretching it with a $400 Xbox 360 (even though they offered a strip down version for $300). Sony is banking that at $500, they can still sell PS3's like hot cakes. That "might" work if M$ decides to fuck it all up and release a bunch of shitty games this holiday season. But that's not the case, there are some big name titles coming out for the X360 at around the same time the PS3 is supposed to launch. And there after as well.
Point I'm tryin to make here is that M$ is going to offer something compelling as a cheaper alternative to the PS3.
It's no longer "the Sony machine" has ALL the triple AAA titles while its competitors have a few AAA titles here and there.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Trends are meant to be broken...this is a new age of gaming my friend...
Well that remains to be seen.
So far the biggest thing Sony has got going for them is 3rd party support.
But in my opinion, they no longer have the consumer.

At this point it's all speculation in our parts, but we shall see how it really unfolds this fall....

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Advanced machines like the PS2...has intrigued the "casual gamer" as you so speak of...becuase of technology advancements...and also from rappers puttin them in their cars for the coolness factor....u dont see Ludacris with a GC in his trunk do ya?
I can't speak for rappers since they tend to just follow what ever trend is in effect.
But as far as technology and casual gamers go,
go and say that to the now defunct 3DO company.
Remember them?

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
And?It hasnt been for awhile....I got all the GTA games on BOTH consoles...
That's why I said "time" based exclusive.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
It all comes down to preference on little things on this consoles...like CONTROLLERS....how many people need to bitch about the XBos controller before they change it?NOBODY liked that clunky piece of shit...even the "smaller" version was a bit much...
Oh so it comes down to controllers now?
So what does that say about PS2 owners? That they have smaller hands?
Well you know what they say about guys with small hands :eek:

Seriously, it's about the games man.
Come on now, you know that.

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Look people...i LIKE Sony....theyve have never done me wrong with ANYTHING ive EVER bought from them...especially the PS1 & 2....so why would I jump ship for a "wand"????Seriously....how many of these "casual gamers"...who most likely are STONERS as welll....are gonna wanna get loaded and wave a fuckin wand around????Probably not very many!!!!
They've always had strong 3rd party support, hence why they had the biggest exclusive titles.
But that's no longer the case, especially if my speculation is correct.
If indeed Sony fails to capture the next gen market and splits it with M$ at best.
Hypothetical question, what are you going to do when the Playstation brand is no longer the console with the biggest titles?

Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Another thing is...this shit is ALL speculation!!!!!No one knows SHIT...until this all happens...so maybe we should all shut the FUCK up....and let the hardware do the talking...we are just kickin our opinions around...some people want the gay paperweight known as the Wii....others want the overpriced PS3....and some own the middle-of-the-road-cant-quite-get-over-the-hump 360...
Exactly, it's all speculation as I said before....
However some Sony fanboys run around as if the sky is falling when ever anyone sounds off the alarm that Sony's market dominance is in jeopardy :)

Have a nice day,
Migg
 
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Ps3 won't flop as u guys think. Nintendo is probably gonna tighten there strangle hold on the market with the wii. They done had the portable system sales on lock for almost a decade. Wii doing above average will HURTsony. And most of the so called ps3 sony loyalist are teenage boys who couldn't buy a game system without mommy or daddy. And 500 is a lot to everyone for a system. 600 is fucken wack! Its about the games fuck the graffix. Play ever game nintendo put out ever is reason enuff to buy the wii. There are soooo many games imma download I can't remember half of em. ANY ONE PLAY RENEGADE FOR NES? THAT SHIT IS A DOPE GAME.
 
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Twist3d said:
u do know that everything that was showed at E3 for MGS.....was actual gameplay
Yeah Hideo Kojima always shows his trailers using in game graphic engines.
That's been the case with every previous MGS trailer.

The graphics in the latest trailer have been toned down a bit from last year's E3 trailer, however it still looks great.

One thing to note is that Kojima said that the X360 is capable of running MGS4 as well, but he already stated that he doesn't porting the game over to the X360. Which sucks if you're an X360 owner, but who knows. Maybe Konami will asign the task to another one of their devs to code the game over to the X360, IF they even choose to bring it over to the X360 in the first place. Personally I doubt it.

But Nintendo Wii owners will be very happy to hear that Kojima has already started to work on an exclusive Nintendo Wii game, specifically to take advantage of Nintendo's new controller....
It won't be an MGS game though, Kojima says that MKGS4 will be his last MGS title....
 
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UsA'sMostWanted said:
this nigga said nintendo....HAHAHAHAHAHA
UsA'sMostWanted said:
fuck the ds, and i dont give a shit about japan's gaming "bible."


too many damn quotes in this thread......but this will do...lol



if anyone thinks a playstation console will flop......they some str8 retarded ass fools



wii is garbage....i wonder why its 250 ? LOL nintendo could never successfully sell a system for 400+....people will barely buy it even at a low price the gaycube had the better graphics....an was cheaper...but still faild horribly to ps2


this thread aint goin nowhere....to many nintendo fools in denial here