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phil

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what you dont believe me? i learned how to be responsible. thats all the fuck it takes. i stopped blaming the world for my problems. THATS IT. im not perfect, i still have my addictions and bad habits, but they dont keep me from surviving. ill be damned if im going to wallow in self pity. i didnt have to convert to christianity while in jail. i converted to REALITY. i looked at all the stupid motherfuckers in there blaming their p.o.'s for violating them for dirty uring, blaming their wives for a d.v. because they were drunk and socked the bitches. BUT THATS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN. WE ARE ALL TRAINED IN THE BLAME GAME EARLY ON IN LIFE.
 

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BY THE WAY IVE ALWAYS HAD AN ABUSIVE ALCOHOLIC STEP PARENT. SPENT PROBABLY A MONTH OF MY LIFE WITH MY TRUE FATHER, MY MOTHER WAS ALWAYS IN AND OUT OF MENTAL HOSPITALS, NEVER KEPT A JOB, HAD SEVERAL HUSBANDS AND WASNT AROUND WHEN SHE NEEDED TO BE. I WAS IN 1ST GRADE COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL BYMYSELF, FEEDING MYSELF, BATHING MYSELF. THEY CALLED US LATCHKEY KIDS IN THOSE DAYS. AND THEN I GOTTA HEAR YOU SISSIES, SOME AT YOUR OFFICE JOBS GETTING PAID TO SIT HERE AND SPEW THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT HOPELESSNESS, DESPAIR, IMPOSSIBLE ODDS ETC.. NOT REALIZING THAT LIVING BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL IN AMERICA MAKES YOU BETTER OF THAN 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD.

THIS IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY, WHETHER YOU MADE IT TO SUCCESS OR NOT.
 
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I'm a paycheck away from being on the street...and I been locked up, I've tried to find a job with a felony and 3 mis on my record, grew up poor, etc. I agree that we do live in a land of opportuinty, BUT there are people who are just straight up poor, whose mama was poor, whose grandpa was poor, whose great mothafuckin grandpa was poor...and to think "it's all mental" is bullshit.
 

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i never said or would even imply that its all mental. but the govenrment cant do for somebody what they cant do for themselves and thats the bottom line. white devil youre smart enough to know that attitude plays a major role in the outcome of a persons future. and you are right, alot of ignorance is GENERATIONAL. if youre asking me what the solution is, i really dont have one. but all these organizations who claim to work for the benefit of the poor and downtrodden do nothing for the longterm. throw them some spending money to get them to the next paycheck, or welfare check. its like the saying goes, give someone a fish they will eat for a day. show someone how to fish and they can eat for the rest of their lives. its sick and disgusting to me how democrats get all this praise for being great for the poor when in all actuality american poverty is job security for democrats. democrats would rather give you fish than teach you how to catch one. i hate to turn this political but this is probably my biggest and only major gripe with the left. the left doesnt want anyone to feel like they can make it without government. we are conditioned to expect everything up front and when its not there, the government must step in with its heavy hand. i dont know, its fucked up. believe me i wish i had an answer. one thing i dont have and refuse to have is excuses for myself or other capable people.
 
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Where the democrats supposedly keep poverty in place, the Republicans use "taking government out of our lives" as an excuse to make money.

Bush's "Healthy Forests" plan should be called "Rich Loggers".

Bush's "Healthcare Reform" should be called "Dead Poor People and Rich Pharmaceutical Conglomerates".

Bush's "Clear Skies" plan..."Unclear Smog Filled Carcinogen Covered Skies", etc.

Bush's healthcare plan is the most venomous...people who have relied on the government to help pay their living bills because they can't do it themselves are being forced to pay huge prices for health insurance and shoved out in the cold. I'm sorry, I don't believe pushing poor people off Government aid and onto a private payment plan is the "way to go".

I watched what was basically an independant film at a film festival about the effects of Bush's Healthcare plan. Many people, several elderly, mixed races and backgrounds, gathered at a "town hall meeting" with the a governor who supported this plan and basically told one sad ass story after the next.

The examples were many; the people who now can not pay for dialysis, the people taking AIDS suppressor drugs who will most likely die very soon after going off them, the people who cannot afford life-sustaining medications like heart pills, antirejection drugs for transplanted organs, etc. The amount of people who would literally die once Bush's healthcare plan came to fruition was fucking incredible.

The difference between Medicaid and Medicaire for someone on a fixed income can be the difference between 5 dollars and 150 dollars; the difference between Medicaid and HMO coverage can be between 150 dollars and 500 dollars, and the price of pills for some of the old and poor who now have to pay can be as high as one thousand dollars a month. Our silent poor and elderly will begin to die left and right the second certain provisions of Bush's healthcare reform plan takes effect. This shit sickened me.

This is the reality of compassionate comservatism; the poor, the old, and the not well off getting fucked, while Bayer, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, and associates get rich quick, with a wink and a smile.
 

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that theory still contradicts itself, what good is a broke public to a greedy politician??? please explain that one. ive never quite figured it out. so if all the old folks are dying off like you say they will, who's left to take those prescriptions? where is the profit in that? i do think americans should have unfettered access to prescription drugs from canada. it is disgusting that we are expected to believe our safety is the priority in this situation.
 
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Lemme explain phil:

If the government is paying a protracted 200 dollars a month to a company on a prescription valued at 1500 dollars,(buying at cost) and the government aid is retracted, now each person has to pay 1500 dollars.

If 5 people die, and only 2 people pay 1500 dollars a month, the company still ends up making money. Before, the government paid 1400 dollars a month to the company. Now, the company makes 3000 dollars a month. The government through Medicaire/Medicaid pays cost or less. When people have to pay, they pay prices several times higher.
 
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Yes, this is FACT. People are being forced from Medicaire to Medicaid, and from Medicaid to nothing, under the Bush healthcare reform plan. Just like you said, they obviously know that drugs from Canada are safe, but it will cost American pharmaceutical companies profit. The same shit is going on with the Bush "healthcare reform". They know people will suffer and die, but it will make money for Merck, Johnson & Johnson, Kaiser Permanente, etc.