PISTONS VS SIXERS
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yea but A.I. already had 7.1 assists in this years playoffs if he'll hand out more assists I think he can start at the point guard position. So I got a question for you nitro what did hobe do in game 6 to prevent the elimination? I mean he completly dissappeared in the 4 th quarter when it was time for him the so called superstar to step up and help his team. A.I. fought for his team yesterday but hobe and the other faker guys got destroyed. Anyway both teams are out.
Real Talk MB3!!! But what Im trippin on is, how these faker fans come in here, and try to clown, when they so-called 4-peat chant didnt work, and their team demolished at home, but try to talk down A.I. when they were supposed to lose to Detroit!! hahahah!! And Sharky poo, where were u when the Fakers lost??? U disapeared!! U are the worst kind of fan!! Atleast nitro, wicked, decaf etc.. showed up after the game and continued to post and defend as much as they could!!! hahah, uza chump mane!!! Now since u got so much to say about A.I., why dont u tell us your analysis of Ko-Me's performance in game 6 against the Spurs???? Waiting!!! Now back to this game, A.I. got his teammates involved as he averaged 9 assist per game this series, and they lost, its simple as that!! he aint a selfish ballhogg crybaby like Ko-Me!! Did u see him cry after the game??? Hell naw he aint a bitch like Ko-Me!! hahah!! And nitro continues to hype up A.I.'s teammates, now that his boy Van Horn is wack, he goes to Coleman & Thomas, but I bet he didnt watch the game though!! If so he would have heard them say Brown was lookin for a 2nd scorer to Iverson, but he cant seem to get one, he was hopin it would be Vanhorn but he struggles!! Iverson dont have no help, but if u let nitro tell it, he has allstars on his team huh?? Iverson is the best player pound for pound in the league!! What he does at 6 feet tall, and thats bein modest is incredible!! We all have our opinions so its all good!! But fuck it, they lost, and it wasnt no surprise, but the fakers lost and it wasnt no surprise to me cause they booboo, but yall actually thought those marks were gonna win!! Hahahah!!! GOT EM!!!
I know he can start at the point guard position. I want to know, since when do assists mean so much to you guys. While Kobe was dishing out 7 per game during the regular season was when you guys were at it with your worse on the selfish talk. Not a single person acknowledged he was lingering in the top 10 in assists the first half of the season. He finished with more assists per game then Iverson and finished ranked 14th in the NBA in assists. He averaged over 5 in the post season, so what are you getting at with the assists because Kobe has proved to be better in that department.
Your right, he was a non-factor, but neither was anyone else on the team. They all struggled. What I want to know is what made Iverson's losing 4th quater so much better. Iverson went 1 for 5 just as Kobe went 1 for 5 in his fourth quater. Iverson too disapeared, but you don't talk about that, why? Just because they stayed alive one OT longer against an eastern conference team doesnt mean shit, L.A. would have crushed Detroit. This is another prime example of you guys being biased.
Your right, he was a non-factor, but neither was anyone else on the team. They all struggled. What I want to know is what made Iverson's losing 4th quater so much better. Iverson went 1 for 5 just as Kobe went 1 for 5 in his fourth quater. Iverson too disapeared, but you don't talk about that, why? Just because they stayed alive one OT longer against an eastern conference team doesnt mean shit, L.A. would have crushed Detroit. This is another prime example of you guys being biased.
yea ok maybe Iverson didn't also play a good 4th quarter but he was back again in overtime to help his team to win the game by scoring 6 straight points to tie the game. By the way L.A. has got two all star players and philly only got one. And as czar already said A.I.s supporting cast is garbage. But like I said forget about it they're both gone for this year. Philly needs to get a real good big men for the next season cause philly doesn't have a real center.
Both teams combined, sure L.A. has better players. The lakers however only have two, ONLY two that contribute day in and day out. Iverson atleast has some players contributing on a daily basis, the role players on his team outweigh those on the Lakers by a BIG margin. Don't make me clown yall with numbers to prove that.
How did I get got?? Cause sharky poo comes in and post when he has sumthin to talk about?? Sharky poo is a coward!! He disapears when his team or players choke so I donr mind him at all!! Now back to this shit!! Go ahead and give us the numbers nitro!! But since we are talkin about supporting cast, then we gonna do it like this!! Give numbers to my boy Iverson's cast, then give numbers to Ko-Me's cast, and that includes Shag cause the only way it would be a fair comparison is to include all the 11 other guys!! I bet u would lose then!! Now we know A.I. has no one, while Ko-Me has Shag so it aint no contest!! Your boy choked and thats it!! Yes A.I. didnt do much in the 4th, but he cameback in ot, but they fell short cause he didnt have no one else!! Its all good they both out, but the Fakers were supposed to 4-peat, so I will take this trade anyday!!! hahahah!! Fakeshow has retired!! GOT EM!!!
No, I wouldn't include Shaq in the numbers, I know that the Lakers have better over-all players then the 76ers do. All im saying here is, minus Kobe and Shaq from the lakers, then minus Iverson from the sixers and Philly would stomp L.A.; In a seven game series I think it would go 4-2 in favor of Philly, thats if the Lakers get lucky. I will post up comparison stats tomorow and break it all down, but it's getting late.
To be honest u may be right about Philly beatin the Fakers in a 7 game series with Iversaon out, and with Ko-Me and Shag out, but thats the key though!! U have 2 superstars on 1 team and 1 on the other team!! Even though A.I. has a lil bit better cast than Shag & Ko-Me, they still have Shag and Ko-me, and its just A.I.!! That makse a big difference!!! Thats why if A.I. is struggling then they pretty much lose, but if either Shag or Ko-Me struggles then the other usually picks it up, so thats what I mean by not havin no one to help A.I.!!! But its all good, not really trippin, the season is over for both teams, but the Fakers "were" the champs, now they the chumps!! Hahahhaha!! GOT EM!!!
I agree with everything, Iverson needs to do most of the work and does a great job at it. I just think that he needs to utilize some of his players better. Sure Van Horn isn't all he's cracked up to be, the statements I made earlier in the year were not far off. I mean he was puting in work then, but he really isn't a factor, just a role player, I might have hyped him up a little to much (he was puting up 17/7 at the time). Snow is only good at one thing really, setting up shots, hes not a good scorer or rebounder. Thomas put up good scoring numbers towards the end, but I think he can be one of the top 5 rebounders in the NBA if he plays like he did towards the end of the season. Coleman is where my concern comes in. I think with Iverson's help he really can be a 20/10 man for an entire season. Maybe its him that needs to realize that and not Iverson, I really can't tell from behind a computer but I think he can be KEY to victory. He's no Shaq but at nearly 7'0 he can be their big man if they work him in properly. MacCulloch is not the way to go in my opinion.
That really doesnt need to be said considering the topic at hand, which is not how the Lakers faired this season in the playoffs. Im not trying to downplay Iverson, I think him and Kobe are the best players in the NBA. The reason I may critical remarks towards him is to get an understanding on how Kobe can get knocked for doing what Iverson gets praised for, definatley not to take anything away from A.I.
That really doesnt need to be said considering the topic at hand, which is not how the Lakers faired this season in the playoffs. Im not trying to downplay Iverson, I think him and Kobe are the best players in the NBA. The reason I may critical remarks towards him is to get an understanding on how Kobe can get knocked for doing what Iverson gets praised for, definatley not to take anything away from A.I.
theres a difference buddy.........kobe has SHAQ, who argubaly is the best center to ever play the game. ai has DERRICK COLEMAN.......the only way for the 6ers to win, is for iverson to jack up 30 shots a game.......kobe doesnt need to do that for the fake show to win, but still shoots the shit out of the ball. no doubt kobe is almost similar to ai, but when u got the most dominant player 2 ft fromt he hoop, U GIVE HIM THE FUCKIN BALL.......not jack shots up all game
Thats correct, but that doesnt say anything about his ability to shoot the ball. He is also arguably the worst shooter in the game when you consider his only way of scoring is to get the ball directly under the rim and either hook it in or dunk it. Other teams know this so when het gets the ball in that spot they foul him, hack-a-shaq sound familiar? I didn't make it up, teams playing against him did. So when you pass the ball to Shaq, your basically puting him at the free-throw line where he is horrible. Most of you guys are quick to turn a blind eye to that because it seems to be one of few arguements you guys have left to criticize Kobe, but that too is depleting my friend. Kobe is shooting at or around 50% from the field regardless where he releases the ball. Shaq although at a better percentage is not going to guarentee any better of a scoring performance whereas jeapordizing freethrows is justifiable. Why not let Kobe do the scoring, because atleast he can sink the shots from the line. Shaq isn't the most dominant player ever just because he can score.. its because he is a SOLID defender with great shot blocking capabilities, he is a superb rebounder averaging atleast 10 a games year in and year out as well as a great passer amongst many other things. Im not saying don't give him the ball, but you have to be smart about it, directly under the basket he is going to get fouled, no question. Get him the ball 5-8 feet from the basket and let him work his way in there and possibly get the score with a foul. You have one of the best coaches to live and a great front office, don't you think if Kobe shooting as much as he does was a bad idea that it would cease to exist? Are you guys really smarter then the lakers coaching staff.. just think about it.
What does Derrick Coleman have to do with Iverson shooting so much? Coleman (First over-all pick) was averaging 20+ points per game and 10+ rebounds per game for the first 5 years of his career before getting traded to Philly, Charlotte then back tp Philly. In no way am I trying to make a comparison between the two centers, rather shed a little light on those who think Iverson doesnt have a big man. Coleman is fully capable of puting up 20 and 10 again because lets face it, the only difference between now and then is he is smarter, stronger and plays with Iverson. Your arguement with Coleman is only good to one who doesnt know about him which makes up for a good portion of this board, but not I. The "he doesnt have anybody" can only go so far, sure he doesnt have an all-star team but lets be real now.
Simply put, yes he does. As the paid professionals coach him to do so, believe you me, if he was disobeying their orders, he wouldn't be playing.
That could not be further from the truth. Don't you think Phil has tried your philosophy? It doesn't work. Sure hes going to make a good portion of his shots when you do that, but his missed freethrows defeats the purpose. Give the ball to Kobe. Its funny how I go on espn and even they use the term "Laker Hater" on a number of occasions, I wonder if their is something to this.
What does Derrick Coleman have to do with Iverson shooting so much? Coleman (First over-all pick) was averaging 20+ points per game and 10+ rebounds per game for the first 5 years of his career before getting traded to Philly, Charlotte then back tp Philly. In no way am I trying to make a comparison between the two centers, rather shed a little light on those who think Iverson doesnt have a big man. Coleman is fully capable of puting up 20 and 10 again because lets face it, the only difference between now and then is he is smarter, stronger and plays with Iverson. Your arguement with Coleman is only good to one who doesnt know about him which makes up for a good portion of this board, but not I. The "he doesnt have anybody" can only go so far, sure he doesnt have an all-star team but lets be real now.
Simply put, yes he does. As the paid professionals coach him to do so, believe you me, if he was disobeying their orders, he wouldn't be playing.
That could not be further from the truth. Don't you think Phil has tried your philosophy? It doesn't work. Sure hes going to make a good portion of his shots when you do that, but his missed freethrows defeats the purpose. Give the ball to Kobe. Its funny how I go on espn and even they use the term "Laker Hater" on a number of occasions, I wonder if their is something to this.