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I wonder if anyone attending these protests has any idea of what they are talking about.


No they all have no idea what they are talking about. The US is not in debt. We did not have a massive corporate bailout. The government isn't working to prevent homes from being foreclosed. Tax increases are not being discussed. Republicans and democrats did not both outspend revenue. And our children will definitely not experience any repercussions from our current financial direction.

They all have no clue what is going on
 
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No they all have no idea what they are talking about. The US is not in debt. We did not have a massive corporate bailout. The government isn't working to prevent homes from being foreclosed. Tax increases are not being discussed. Republicans and democrats did not both outspend revenue. And our children will definitely not experience any repercussions from our current financial direction.

They all have no clue what is going on
You may understand why they were protesting. I may understand why they were protesting. But do you think the people in the pictures understand? Because I know people at the "Million Man March", understood why they were in D.C. But these people with these Obama = Hitler signs???? I mean really how is Hitler a factor in American Tax policies????? Let's look at the numbers of these protestors. 5,000 people showed up to "teabag" in Sacramento. That's not enough people to fill the Sac Kings arena 50%.
 

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No they all have no idea what they are talking about. The US is not in debt. We did not have a massive corporate bailout. The government isn't working to prevent homes from being foreclosed. Tax increases are not being discussed. Republicans and democrats did not both outspend revenue. And our children will definitely not experience any repercussions from our current financial direction.

They all have no clue what is going on
While you're at it, sarcastically explain the 'Obama = Hitler' and 'Impeach Osama Obama aka Hussein' signs for me, since you've decided to be their Siccness spokesperson.
 
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While you're at it, sarcastically explain the 'Obama = Hitler' and 'Impeach Osama Obama aka Hussein' signs for me, since you've decided to be their Siccness spokesperson.


Your are committing two logical fallacies;

1) The credibility of the messenger does not influence the truth of the message. Just because someone may not understand what they are saying does not mean what they are saying is not true.

2) Some people having no clue what is going on does not mean that none of the people have any clue what is going on, which is what I pointed out in my previous post.



Your original post suggested that you questioned if "anyone attending these protests has any idea what they were talking about" and I have pointed out that regardless of your subjective judgment, there is truth in what some are saying and a very low probability that no one attending these protests had any clue what they were talking about.
 

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Your are committing two logical fallacies;

1) The credibility of the messenger does not influence the truth of the message. Just because someone may not understand what they are saying does not mean what they are saying is not true.

2) Some people having no clue what is going on does not mean that none of the people have any clue what is going on, which is what I pointed out in my previous post.



Your original post suggested that you questioned if "anyone attending these protests has any idea what they were talking about" and I have pointed out that regardless of your subjective judgment, there is truth in what some are saying and a very low probability that no one attending these protests had any clue what they were talking about.
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I only wondered how many truly understand what they are saying as opposed to the bandwagoners.
So, again, what is Obama's impeachable offense that makes him comprable to Hitler?
 
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I only wondered how many truly understand what they are saying as opposed to the bandwagoners.
So, again, what is Obama's impeachable offense that makes him comprable to Hitler?


Hello Bear,

Welcome to Logical Fallacy #3. The Straw Man Fallacy.

I have never suggested that those people holding Obama=Hitler signs have any clue what was going on. I have only suggested that there was some truth in SOME of the messages that were being displayed at these Tea Parties. You are making quiet the jump for me.

You questioned if anyone had a clue what they were talking about. I pointed out that whether or not any of them had a clue or not, there was some truth in some of the messages. That does not mean I think those people equating Obama to Hitler are correct.


Furthermore, let me draw a very simple correlation for you as to why Obama could be equated to Hitler for some people. It is possible that those people who are making that correlation are suggesting that Obama is leading our country in a direction that they believe will ultimately be negative, in the same way Hitler led Germany down a negative path. That does not mean I believe that to be the case, only that it is one of a large number of potential correlations between the two leaders.
 
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^^^^So you believe Obama and Hitler share a "large number of potential correlations"..... gtfo......... Again I say, if Obama has FUCKED up America that bad in 100 days, AMERIKKKA wasn't shit to begin with...... Bush had 8 years, what did he accomplish???????????
 
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^^^^So you believe Obama and Hitler share a "large number of potential correlations"..... gtfo......... Again I say, if Obama has FUCKED up America that bad in 100 days, AMERIKKKA wasn't shit to begin with...... Bush had 8 years, what did he accomplish???????????


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I don't think you understood anything from my last post. Re-read it and then see if you still have questions that should be answered by thinking.
 
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I don't think you understood anything from my last post. Re-read it and then see if you still have questions that should be answered by thinking.
Hitler was a murderous, tyrant, drug-addicted, paranoid, evil person.... Now if Obama is taking America down that road i can see the comparison.... Again I say, if Obama has done that much harm to American in 100 days, America wasn't shit to begin with..... How long was Hitler in Power???? Obama must be the greatest enemy America has ever seen, 250 years of Imperialism destroyed in 100 days. lol.
 
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Hitler was a murderous, tyrant, drug-addicted, paranoid, evil person.... Now if Obama is taking America down that road i can see the comparison.... Again I say, if Obama has done that much harm to American in 100 days, America wasn't shit to begin with..... How long was Hitler in Power???? Obama must be the greatest enemy America has ever seen, 250 years of Imperialism destroyed in 100 days. lol.


One of the major errors you keep making is creating this false dichotomy where people who don't support Obama must have supported Bush and others.

While that may be the case for some people, there is also a large portion of the people who don't support Obama, that didn't support Bush, that didn't support Clinton, and most likely won't support the next elected official because they will be another perpetuation of our flawed system.
 
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One of the major errors you keep making is creating this false dichotomy where people who don't support Obama must have supported Bush and others.

While that may be the case for some people, there is also a large portion of the people who don't support Obama, that didn't support Bush, that didn't support Clinton, and most likely won't support the next elected official because they will be another perpetuation of our flawed system.
Im glad, the error that you see me making, is evident to you. But what you miss about me, while assuming that I am a person that is a supporter of a perpetual flawed system. I am a person that is a consumate, exploiter of the perpetual flawed system. In layman's terms, I get over every chance i get. Why not, since the flawed system that is America, was built on capitalizing on the ignorance of others. I've made waaaaaaaaaay more money with my pen, than with my pistol......... I've said it once, i'll say it again, i'm with the team that has the money.... Right now, Obama is the shot caller...
 
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Im glad, the error that you see me making, is evident to you. But what you miss about me, while assuming that I am a person that is a supporter of a perpetual flawed system. I am a person that is a consumate, exploiter of the perpetual flawed system. In layman's terms, I get over every chance i get. Why not, since the flawed system that is America, was built on capitalizing on the ignorance of others. I've made waaaaaaaaaay more money with my pen, than with my pistol......... I've said it once, i'll say it again, i'm with the team that has the money.... Right now, Obama is the shot caller...


So then were you with Bush when he was the shot caller?
 

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Hello Bear,

Welcome to Logical Fallacy #3. The Straw Man Fallacy.

I have never suggested that those people holding Obama=Hitler signs have any clue what was going on. I have only suggested that there was some truth in SOME of the messages that were being displayed at these Tea Parties. You are making quiet the jump for me.

You questioned if anyone had a clue what they were talking about. I pointed out that whether or not any of them had a clue or not, there was some truth in some of the messages. That does not mean I think those people equating Obama to Hitler are correct.


Furthermore, let me draw a very simple correlation for you as to why Obama could be equated to Hitler for some people. It is possible that those people who are making that correlation are suggesting that Obama is leading our country in a direction that they believe will ultimately be negative, in the same way Hitler led Germany down a negative path. That does not mean I believe that to be the case, only that it is one of a large number of potential correlations between the two leaders.
You've got to be kidding me...
1. I never passed judgement on their message.
2. I never said 'some are ignorant, therefore all are.'
3. I never passed judgement on their message.

I wanted to see if you'd actually take it this far. To explain the logic behind 'Obama = Hitler.'
All this for me wondering out loud how many don't know what they are talking about? LMAO
This is why I don't usually post here...