Alright then, I'll shoot. I think if God created us to be perfect, but gave us the choice to do good or evil, then I think the way we were made was perfect, but we are not perfect. 916 How you been foo?! We ended that convo shortly.
My bad bro, I have a big ass headache, and alot of frustration today. So then I came back to post what I thought, and I made it more positive after I read what EDJ said.
Alright then, I'll shoot. I think if God created us to be perfect, but gave us the choice to do good or evil, then I think the way we were made was perfect, but we are not perfect.
My bad bro, I have a big ass headache, and alot of frustration today. So then I came back to post what I thought, and I made it more positive after I read what EDJ said.
Its cool. I understand that we all got worked up over a previous conversation. The thing about this one is that I am not asking particularly for Scripture. It is a simple statement that can be analyzed with logic. And, from Biblical responses I received from Christians on another site, it appears that this should be agreeable with you. At the same time, atheists often refer to this point because it is half of the argument from evil. So I want to put the statement up there and have theists and atheists put their comments up so we can explore the implications.
Its cool. I understand that we all got worked up over a previous conversation. The thing about this one is that I am not asking particularly for Scripture. It is a simple statement that can be analyzed with logic. And, from Biblical responses I received from Christians on another site, it appears that this should be agreeable with you. At the same time, atheists often refer to this point because it is half of the argument from evil. So I want to put the statement up there and have theists and atheists put their comments up so we can explore the implications.
We were created in the perfect image of God but, Adam and Eve slipped and we never really recuperated from that event. So here we are imperfect because we like our way better then the way God advised us to take.
Well, being that such disobedience is within the parameter of free will, does it really constitute an imperfection? I agree that it constitutes a falldown on our part, and this may be perceived as an imperfection, but doesn't it still follow that creation is perfect nonetheless?
Stockton209SS said:
And I'm doing fine, finally have a Job now LOL. The Convo about The After life, it got no where LOL
Well, being that such disobedience is within the parameter of free will, does it really constitute an imperfection? I agree that it constitutes a falldown on our part, and this may be perceived as an imperfection, but doesn't it still follow that creation is perfect nonetheless?
Yes, unless he created us with no mind or free will, but being a Believer of Christ, I think all that God made was perfect, it was upto what he made whether it was corrupted