ZERO!!!!!!!!!
@edj you said
THAT'S ASSUMIN' THAT THERE IS SUCH AN ACTUAL AND LITERAL PLACE
i gave you the words RESEARCH THEM.
BUT I'M LOL THAT YOU SAYIN' A LOT OF FOLK LOOK AT YHWH AS BEIN' A SISSY. LOL MAN, HE IS A gOD OF LOVE AND YES A gOD THAT IS JUST. BUT BEIN' A gOD OF LOVE DON'T MAKE HIM TO BE SISSIFIED BY HUMAN STANDARDS. IF HE IS JUST, THEN CASTIN' SOMEONE TO TORTURE FOREVER IN A LAKE OF FIRE FOR A MERE APPROXIMATE 80 YEARS OF SIN OR NOT DOIN' HIS WILL IS NOT JUST.
edj are you BLIND???????? SERIOUSLY ARE YOU BLIND?????? LOOK AT WHAT I TYPED.GO BACK AND READ MY POST AGAIN. HELL OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT WAS
NOT ORIGINALLY MADE FOR
MAN . HELL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT WAS MADE FOR THE FALLEN
ANGELS . THE BIBLE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT IF HE DIDNT SPARE THE ANGELS WHO REBELLED HE WILL NOT SPARE MAN. END OF DICUSSION EDJ. YOU CAN ARGUE WITH THE SCRIPTURES IF YOU WANT BUT TO ME ITS REALLY NO DEBATE. THE SISSY COMMENT WASNT DIRECTED AT YOU BUT NOW I CAN SAFELY SAY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM A SISSY POINT OF VIEW.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD OR JESUS OR WHATEVER THINK THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO GET PERSECUTED. THEY THINK YOU DONT HAVE TO GO THROUGH SERIOUS AFFLICATIONS. THATS CONFLICTING WITH SCRIPTURE. CHRIST SUFFERED. WHY WONT YOU? THE BEAST AND FALSE PROPHET ARE CAST IN THE LAKE OF FIRE WHY WONT YOU? HERES ANOTHER ONE REVELATION 20:12-15.
THIS VERSE 15
AND WHOSOEVER WAS NOT FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. END OF DISCUSSION. YOU CAN TAKE SCRIPTURE APPLY IT AS YOU WANT AND TWIST IT TO VALIDATE YOUR VIEWS. REMEMBER WHEN YOU DO THAT TO PAY ATTENTION TO STERN WARNING IN REVELATION 22:18-19
HOW CAN YOU PUT MAN IN THE SAME CIRCLE AS SATAN AND HIS FALLEN ANgELS? IS A MERE MAN AS POWERFUL AND EVIL AS A SPIRIT? TO SUFFER THE SAME FATE?
IF YOU ARE IN SIN YOU ARE IN ****REBELLION**** AGAINST GOD. IF YOU ARE IN ****REBELLION**** AGAINST GOD YOU ARE AT ****WAR**** WITH GOD. IF YOU ARE AT ****WAR**** WITH GOD YOU ARE AN ****ENEMY**** OF GOD. IF YOU DONT HAVE A ****BLOOD SACRIFICE**** THAT ATONES FOR YOUR ****SIN****YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PAY WITH ****YOUR OWN****. YOU ACCEPT THE COVERING OR YOU DONT. I DIDNT PLACE MAN IN THE SAME CIRCLE AS THE FALLEN ONES. YESHUA HIMSELF DID (AS YOU WILL SEE LATER ON).
IS A MERE MAN AS POWERFUL AND EVIL TO SUFFER THE SAME FATE? FALLEN MAN AND FALLEN ANGELS........MAN WAS NOT MADE FOR HELL/LAKE OF FIRE. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TYPE IT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? HOW HARD IS THIS TO GRASP??????????????????? MAN WAS MADE "LOWER" THAN THE ANGELS. UNTIL YOU HAVE A CONCEPT OF SIN,LIFE AND DEATH THIS IS OVER YOUR HEAD.
AND THEN YOU STRESS, "SOME OF YOU MAY VIEW PUNISHMENT IN HELL/LAKE OF FIRE AS BEING "WRONG" BECAUSE A.YOU DONT KNOW HIM
B.YOU DONT KNOW HIS WAYS
C.YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD
THAT AIN'T EVEN IT. CAUSE I KNOW YHWH AND HIS WAYS. MAYBE I'M NOT FOLLOWIN' THEM OR DOIN' HIS WILL, BUT I KNOW WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF. HOW MANY EVEN KNOW HIS NAME? I DO AND THAT RIgHT THERE IS 51 STEPS AHEAD OF WHAT MOST THINK.
1.IF YOU KNOW HIM YOU KNOW HIS VOICE
2.IF YOU KNOW HIS WAYS YOU WILL KNOW WHY MAN WILL BE CAST IN HELL AND YOU WONT FIND A REASON TO GET AROUND IT.
3.WHEN YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD YOU WILL LOOK FOR "LOGIC" INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY READING AND ASKING THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR GUIDENCE. WHEN YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD YOU WILL IGNORE THE SCRIPTURES THAT YOU CLAIM TO BELIEVE.
AND YESHUA(JESUS) WAS OUR SACRIFICE SO THRU HIM WE WOULD HAVE THAT CHANCE OF ETERNAL LIFE. SO OUR "WAgES OF SIN IS DEATH". WHETHER WE MAKE IT TO BE IN ETERNAL LIFE IS UP TO HIM TO JUDgE US. IF NOT IT'S ETERNAL DAMNATION.
NO ITS NOT UP TO HIM. THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT. ITS ON YOU TO ACCEPT OR DENY THE GOSPEL. ETERNAL LIFE OR ETERNAL DEATH? HIS WAY OR YOUR WAY? WHICH IS IT? WHICH GOES LEFT AND WHICH GOES RIGHT? WHAT IS "ETERNAL DAMNATION"??????
HERE YOU GO:
STRONGS NUMBER 166
ETERNAL: aijwvnioß
TRANSLITERATED: Aionios
1.without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be
2.without beginning
3.without end, never to cease, everlasting
THIS WORD IS USED IN 71 TIMES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. EACH TIME IT IS USED TO DESCRIBE "PUNISHMENT" DEFINITION 3 IS USED.
NOW HERE IS YOUR OTHER WORD:
Strong's Number 2920
DAMNATION: krivsiß
TRANSLITERATED: Krisis
1.a separating, sundering, separation
A. trial, contest
2.selection
3.judgment
A. opinion or decision given concerning anything
1. esp. concerning justice and injustice, right or wrong
B.sentence of condemnation, damnatory judgment, condemnation and punishment
4.the college of judges (a tribunal of seven men in the several cities of Palestine; as distinguished from the Sanhedrin, which had its seat at Jerusalem)
5.right, justice
48 TIMES THIS HAS BEEN USED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. WHENEVER THE WORD ETERNAL WAS WRITTEN AND FOLLOWED BY DAMNATION OR WHENEVER IT DEALT WITH THE AFTERLIFE, SIN OR PERDITION
DEFINITION 1,3 AND 5 WERE USED.
PLACE THEM TOGETHER AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
ETERNAL SEPERATION FROM GOD (READ ABOUT LAZURUS AND THE RICH MAN AND HOW THEY WERE *SEPERATED*)
ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. (READ ABOUT LAZURUS AND THE RICH MAN AND HOW HE WAS *PUNISHED*)
EVERLASTING JUDGEMENT,EVERLASTING SEPERATION,EVERLASTING DAMNATORY PUNISHMENT,EVERLASTING CONDEMNATION.
YOU CHOSE THE WORDS "ETERNAL DAMNATION". NOT ME. THIS CONTRADICTS WITH YOUR BELIEFS. YOU HAVE THE DEFINITION OF ETERNAL DAMNATION RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.
YESHUA HIMSELF PREACHED ABOUT HELL. HELL AND JUDGEMENT IS SPOKEN OF IN THE NEW TESTAMENT OVER 400 TIMES.
HERE ARE THE WORDS OF YESHUA:
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"Matthew 25:41.
NOW IF HE IS TELLING MAN TO DEPART TO FIRE WHICH IS PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL WHAT IS YOUR ARGUEMENT????? WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ASKING OR TRYING TO PROVE BECAUSE LOGICALLY YOU MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL.
HERE ARE MORE WORDS FROM YESHUA:
"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for the to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:43-44.
IF THE FIRE OF HELL IS NEVER TO BE QUENCHED WHERE IS YOUR SCRIPTURE TO PROVE THAT IT IS??????? IF YESHUA HIMSELF PREACHED ABOUT HELL 13 TIMES TO EVER 1 TIME HE PREACHED OF HEAVEN HOW CAN YOU SAY HELL IS NOT REAL (FROM A SCRIPTURAL STANDPOINT).
EITHER YESHUA WAS A LIAR/NUTCASE FOR PREACHING ABOUT HELL OR YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EDJ. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BACK YOUR VIEWS WITH THE SCRIPTURE YOU HAVE NO VIEWS. YOU KILLED YOUR ARGUEMENT WHEN YOU SAID "ETERNAL DAMNATION".
THE DEFINITION OF ETERNAL DAMNATION DOES NOT SUPPORT/ENDORSE YOUR BELIEFS.
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