Pan African Film Festival : This is the Life

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Gas One

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If any of you are in LA, check out the documentary "this is the life" at the magic johnson theatre in Leimert park. I went to the movie premier last night and it was sold out, got a standing ovation and all.

i like how they PROVED that people stole styles from them like ice cube stole from volume ten, and bizzy stole from myka 9..

its a really important part of west coast history that you all need to be up on.

check it out tomorrow....theres only two showings. its worth the drive if youre in sd.



This is the Life


Director: Ava DuVernay
Language: English
Producer: Ellene V. Miles
Genre: Documentary
Dir. of Photography: Issac Klotz
Editor: Spencer Averick & Krishna Devine
Sound: Jesse Stubblefield & Ian Thompson
Duration: 104min.
Year: 2007
Screening Times: 02/09/2008 - 8:20pm , 02/11/2008 - 8:00pm

Description:

In 1989, a collective of young artists gathered weekly at a small health food store in LA called "The Good Life.” Their mandate? To explore and expand the musical boundaries of hip hop. The little known story of a group of teenagers, who revolutionized hip hop by innovating the very rhyme patterns, melodic concepts and lyrical styles used by many of today's biggest rap stars. While their innovations have yielded billions of dollars for the recording industry, the Good Life emcees have toiled in relative obscurity in the United States. But much like their jazz heroes of a bygone era, these street poets have garnered a rabid and musically sophisticated fan base abroad, with a cult-like following in Germany, Australia, France, England and Japan. A feature-length documentary, directed by former Good Life emcee Ava DuVernay, chronicles the rise and fall of an unusual family of artists, while examining their obstacles to commercial success. They all took different paths, but remain connected by the music they made, the alternative hip hop movement they developed, and their worldwide influence on the art form. Q&A
 
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I didnt see the movie, but I find it hard to swallow that they are responsible for all these so called rappers that bite their shit. Not to say cube never bit..but damn. I remember the good life cafe in the late 80's and most of them had their opportunities. freestyle fellowship they had some albums..videos on rotation including their solo projects..aceyalone, mika, Gahnga K, when they had some limelight why were they not sucessful..Answer their shit was hard to swallow. At that time there actually was a lil interest in intelligent rap...but there shit was so dry it would make a maggot gag. I bought a few of their releases my favorite being Freestyle fellowship inner city griots. But besides that..They had just as much opportunity at that time as anyone in my opinion. i feel this film is a niche market i would love to see it because good life cafe was bigger then just rap, and it was original in its time, but its another attempt of someone trying to desperatley hold on to yesterday. I seen some of them perform as well..Medusa had a good show about 8 years ago..
 
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I didnt see the movie, but I find it hard to swallow that they are responsible for all these so called rappers that bite their shit. Not to say cube never bit..but damn. I remember the good life cafe in the late 80's and most of them had their opportunities. freestyle fellowship they had some albums..videos on rotation including their solo projects..aceyalone, mika, Gahnga K, when they had some limelight why were they not sucessful..Answer their shit was hard to swallow. At that time there actually was a lil interest in intelligent rap...but there shit was so dry it would make a maggot gag. I bought a few of their releases my favorite being Freestyle fellowship inner city griots. But besides that..They had just as much opportunity at that time as anyone in my opinion. i feel this film is a niche market i would love to see it because good life cafe was bigger then just rap, and it was original in its time, but its another attempt of someone trying to desperatley hold on to yesterday. I seen some of them perform as well..Medusa had a good show about 8 years ago..

I disagree... I think It's quite possible that quite a few rappers stole from them... They started 'backpack' rap... Damn near invented 'Freestyle' rapping... And helped launch the independent movement of the late 90's... And while I do agree this film is most likely a trip down memory lane I think those cats (Good Life/ Project Blowed) deserve a lot of credit for pushing style and lyricism on the west coast...
 

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shit sounds interesting, I'd hella watch if I was down there....they got a website or something so I can see if it will play in the bay? I hella doubt it will tho :ermm:
 

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i would go watch it, i think 50cal may not realize that half of blowed are well off and have been touring around the world since the mid 90s so i don't know about not being successful....

and as far as 'intelligent rap' thats bullshit..it was smack in the middle of south central during the hieght of the gang problem..the good life attracted all walks of life..from nerds to gangsters....youmight have a hippy dude, then you might have a dude talking about macking hoes, then you might have a white kid talking about his love for god...because it was poppin in there...but if you cursed on the mic you had to get off...gangster or nerd

and that made the thugs step they game up on the mic in there

and what do you mean hold on to yesterday? everyone in blowed still puts out albums. their telling the story of how it started and how they got to the level their at now, able to feed their kids off of rap..and not a major label.
 

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How did Cube bite Volume 10?
he completely changed his whole style up after "pistol grip pump"

listen to "guerillas in the mist" on lench mob

all that "WITH THE BOOM, PING PING! LISTEN TO THE ILL SHIT THAT I BRING BRING!" thats volume tens style

he changed up his whole style of accentuating words and that shit sounded exactly like volume tens shit. they played songs back to back..played cubes older shit before pistol grip pump then after pistol grip pump, cube was a totally different sounding rapper and way more like volume ten

everyone was dying laughing at that shit
 

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if you listen to mikah 9's style of rapping before bone thugs were even rapping like that (listen to bone thugs faces of death..they arent doing that style) fast forward 1991 freestyle fellowships song "mary"...myka 9 invented that style.

keep in mind bone thugs went out to LA to meet eazy e and stayed out there. as mc's trying to get a lil name poppin you know they hit good life around that time.

oh and for some info

www.myspace.com/goodlifelove

theres pics, it was a packed house and will prolly sell out tomorrow

oh and fat joe went to the good life and got booed...lmao..that shit was priceless

dude got booed in little under 15 seconds trying to kick an accapella
 

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that's cuz joey crack is ass....I was hella mad back when I found out he was part of ditc like "I thought you had to be fresh to be in that crew"
 

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yeah, joey crack has a total of 3 good songs

'shit is real' was tight tho. where he robbed his cousin for his sheepskin at the family reunion..hahaha

thats that rap city shit back in the day i know you fucked with it

flow joe was tight too

but yeah he had NO BUSINESS trying to kick freestyles at good life
it wasnt even a freestyle..it was a written..

so he was gon get booed on GP
 

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he had a couple alright tracks when big pun started helping him write.....there was one song that I hella liked by him, but I can't remember what it was, I had it on some mixtape (that was both a MIX and a TAPE, unlike ALL mixtapes nowadays) back in like 96 but it was blended over the liquid swords beat.....
 

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he completely changed his whole style up after "pistol grip pump"

listen to "guerillas in the mist" on lench mob

all that "WITH THE BOOM, PING PING! LISTEN TO THE ILL SHIT THAT I BRING BRING!" thats volume tens style

he changed up his whole style of accentuating words and that shit sounded exactly like volume tens shit. they played songs back to back..played cubes older shit before pistol grip pump then after pistol grip pump, cube was a totally different sounding rapper and way more like volume ten

everyone was dying laughing at that shit
Yeah thats true, Cube bit elements of the beat to Pistol Grip Pump in several songs as well right around the time Friday came out...
 

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man i gotta give it to you GAS! i ended up looking up and researching how u said people like Cube, and Bone Thugs took steelows. i found that Freestyle Fellowship song and man...... found out something i deffinetly knew nuthin about. I wish I was in LA i'd deffinetly go watch this. PROPS!
 
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i would go watch it, i think 50cal may not realize that half of blowed are well off and have been touring around the world since the mid 90s so i don't know about not being successful....

and as far as 'intelligent rap' thats bullshit..it was smack in the middle of south central during the hieght of the gang problem..the good life attracted all walks of life..from nerds to gangsters....youmight have a hippy dude, then you might have a dude talking about macking hoes, then you might have a white kid talking about his love for god...because it was poppin in there...but if you cursed on the mic you had to get off...gangster or nerd

and that made the thugs step they game up on the mic in there

and what do you mean hold on to yesterday? everyone in blowed still puts out albums. their telling the story of how it started and how they got to the level their at now, able to feed their kids off of rap..and not a major label.
When I said they wasnt sucessful i should have said they never really shared the sucess main stream artists have, not saying they didnt some good money. and I did agree that there was a market for inteligent rap..I just said there was little interest.
 
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I disagree... I think It's quite possible that quite a few rappers stole from them... They started 'backpack' rap... Damn near invented 'Freestyle' rapping... And helped launch the independent movement of the late 90's... And while I do agree this film is most likely a trip down memory lane I think those cats (Good Life/ Project Blowed) deserve a lot of credit for pushing style and lyricism on the west coast...
Im not sure who started back pack rap, but that shit was on the eastcoast as well.I can say that they did not help launch the independent movement...If too short had those tapes in 85....on up then the bay gets 100% credit for that..I do agree they deserve alot of credit and i do not mean to discredit what they have contributed to hip hop, there was others just like them..remember Def Jef...what about Divine styler..you can trace him back to the Syndicate days...I bought his first two tapes..1st was cool second..i would need a drug expert to tell me what he was on....Its crazy..Oh and freestyle rappin been around almost since the beginning.
 
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Yeah thats true, Cube bit elements of the beat to Pistol Grip Pump in several songs as well right around the time Friday came out...
Cube doesnt make beats he just picks what producers put in front of him..My homie made some beats for volume 10 remember Liquor store run..my homie did that i believe it was on the Rhyme and reason soundtrack.
 
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he completely changed his whole style up after "pistol grip pump"

listen to "guerillas in the mist" on lench mob

all that "WITH THE BOOM, PING PING! LISTEN TO THE ILL SHIT THAT I BRING BRING!" thats volume tens style

he changed up his whole style of accentuating words and that shit sounded exactly like volume tens shit. they played songs back to back..played cubes older shit before pistol grip pump then after pistol grip pump, cube was a totally different sounding rapper and way more like volume ten

everyone was dying laughing at that shit
Cube been doing that since day 1...but jermaine duprees artists have that shit on lock.
 
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if you listen to mikah 9's style of rapping before bone thugs were even rapping like that (listen to bone thugs faces of death..they arent doing that style) fast forward 1991 freestyle fellowships song "mary"...myka 9 invented that style.

keep in mind bone thugs went out to LA to meet eazy e and stayed out there. as mc's trying to get a lil name poppin you know they hit good life around that time.
I do not really know who created what style as far as that bone shit, but remember they been doing that shit for years in Chicago and some of the southern states.

Again..I dont really know it all even though i act like i do..hahah but I would go out on a limb to say if you rap you bit your shit in some shape or form from someone...anyone after the first rapper that is...This has been an ongoing thing people trying to get credit for starting all sorts of styles, even if that shit existed years ago..remember rap started around 1979. the rappers who had longevity had to change their style and keep up with what was hot ( for the most part) or everyone would sound like kurtis blow..What I can say about the good life this was a first of its kind as far as having a venue for rappers to showcase their skills. Im gonna holla at Jazzy D on this shit he was one of the first rappers with a record on the Westcoast...1985...