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CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 10, 2002

@mz. gemini,
who are your top 5 favorite rappers? or who do you think are the top 5 of all time? hey girl, i ain't trippin offa what you said, that is your opinion and maybe you can relate to him more than me or just thought he was that good. i can understand, like i was sayin though, i don't think he deserves as much credit as he gets. yes he was influential and all of that, but he didn't appeal to me all that much. stay up girl

NorKoastal · Sep 10, 2002

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CHRISDOGG14 said:

True, Production is a big key in this game. I respect people who throw the whole package at ya, its what Im doing so I have to agree wit ya.

Me, I havent heard enough Wood to compare. It just seemed like apples n oranges.......

2C

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 10, 2002

they why come at me like you did? i ain't startin shit but, why come at me like that when you ain't even up on game about woodie's stuff. i'm tellin you, lyrically, he mows 2pac, i don't know if everyone would agree, but i can say that with out a doubt. i ain't sayin that cause we in his forum neither, i'd say that on mtv.

YOUNG VILLAIN · Sep 10, 2002

HMMM.....

SOUNDS LIKE NORKOASTAL IS JEALOUS.... REMEMBER IT SAYS ARTIST UNDER WOODIE'S NAME AND MODERATOR UNDER YOURS!!

LOOTER oF tHE NEW CHURCH · Sep 10, 2002

MzGemini said:

I have no reason to be defensive I was just being logical.

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 10, 2002

mickey mouse is gettin down, lol

Locct925 · Sep 10, 2002

HOLD UP, I'M JUST GOIN TELL IT LIKE HOW IT IS, JUST READING THIS FUCKING THREAD MADE ME SICK, EVERYBODY GOT DIFFERENT OPIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING, JUST REMEMBER THAT, MY OPION IS THAT PAC WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TYME (REMEMBER MY OPION), BUT TELL ME HOW CAN YOU BASICALLY BE LIKE O HE WAS A FUCKING HOOD HOPPER OR WHATEVER (NO DISRESPECT TO OSO) I MEAN IF YOU GUYS ACTUALLY KNEW THE MAN, NOT BY FAME BUT IN PERSON, THEN IT BE KOO, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU GUYS ARE LIKE BASICALLY SPITTING ON THIS HOMIES GRAVE, ONLY GOD COULD JUDGE ME-2PAC R.I.P

Big Teflon · Sep 10, 2002

SINCE WE GETTIN IN THE SUBJECT OF 2 PAC VERSE WOODIE.....HERE IS MY OPINION......2 PAC IS A VERY INFLUENTIAL PERSON IN MY LIFE AS FAR AS RAP GOES......BUT SO IS WOODIE.....I THINK THAT 2 PAC WERKED EXTREMELY HARD....YOU CAN TELL BYE HOW MUCH WERK HAS BEEN PUT OUT EVEN AFTER HE DIED.........BUT I THINK WOODIE IS BETTER OVERALL.....I AM FEELIN HIS LYRICS AND STYLE BETTER....MORE OF A RAW AND UNDERGROUND FEEL...BUT NOT EVERYONE LIKES THAT KIND OF STYLE....SO I CAN SEE WHY OTHER PEOPLE LIKE 2 PAC BETTER......AND I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY TALENTED THAT WOODIE DUZ HIS OWN BEATS.

510_SCRAPKILLA · Sep 11, 2002

takin 5 shots means u a survivor. shootin 2 cops means you got balls. i ain't met anyone who was eva down to shoot two mutha fuckin cops. he was a thug, thats 4 sure. he ws reppin oakland cuz that was where he was taught the game. ofcourse you gonna rep where u was taught the game right? where u got homies who down wit you and shit. we all reppin where we frum cuz that's where we were taught the game and our homies ride alongside us. he didn't learn shit in new york or baltimore. if u from l.a. and move to the bay and learn the game u ain't gonna rep l.a. hell naw you gonna rep the bay right cuz u learned the game here and gonna put you roots down here. much props to wood though everyone comparin him to pac. wood and pac are my favorite 2 rappers.

face14 · Sep 11, 2002

There you go my ENE that's exactly what I'm tryin to stress!!!!!

FC ENE · Sep 11, 2002

WHen I said it may look gangrelated to most ppl I meant that if you dig a litter further youd see that Death Rows artists were crips (or at least pretended to be). So case being that DR (death row) had both crips and bloods on the roster. AND that comment on bompton, did you know that some of the fools that were with suge that night were crips, so why would you point out Pac as a blood when he is with both crips and bloods beating down a fool that stole one of their chains. The reason that Pac beat that fool was for stealing a chain, not for being a crip.

OPINION SO PLEASE NO ONE WRITE WRONG, CUZ ITS OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pac was real to me cause he did dirt and didnt try to bitch out of it.

Mac Dre is real cuz he took a case for a homie when he could of ratted out his homies.

X-Raided is real cuz he is a gangster and is living the life he speaks of...........not cause he is a convicted murderer.

There are others but post will be to long.

Again this is opinion....

510_SCRAPKILLA · Sep 11, 2002

oh yeah i forgot to mention the man also served 2 years in the mutha fuckin penitentiary. 60 days in county had me stressin. much props to him just survivin iin there. he was a crazy skinny ass mutha fucka that's 4 sure. locked up wit the hardest mutha fuckas in the pen. if you served two years, shot two cops,and took 5 bullets,(he took 5 more and survived for a week so that's 10 bullets) shit i don't care what mutha fuckas say about him i don't know anyone that's been through all that that's crazy. like him. you can't name any other rapper whose been shot 5 times, shot cops, and served two years in the pen. doin one of those is hard enough. he did all that.

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 12, 2002

where did you hear this shit about shot cops? cause if he did, he would have done a huge bid in a penatentiary, not 2 years, especially if like you say, it was because they were beatin up some guy he didn't know, and then he shot them. nah, if this were true, he would have been put away a long time. show me the newspaper clipping that says that.

Diablo · Sep 12, 2002

CHRISDOGG14 said:

Ey no offence loko. U seem to have a good head on your shoulders n all but u gotta get your facts straight b4 posting shit like that....It's a WELL known fact that Tupac shot 2 off duty cops in Atlanta after stopping to help a black motorist that was being harrassed. When the 2 cops ( plain clothed ) pulled out guns and didn't identify that they were pigs, 2pac blasted both of them. The case was later dropped due to insufficient evidence and ever since then those 2 pigs have bad mouthed Tupac in interviews callin him a menace to society , saying he didn't belong on the streets.

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 12, 2002

hmmmmm,
i vaguely rememeber that now. the way someone told that story earlier though seems way wrong though now. and if they were plain clothed, that case can get throw out with no time, so now i understand that. but whoever said the story about this earlier said it wrong. and @ diablo, i ain't trippin homeboy, thanks for clarifyin. but, still doesn't change my opinion, yall make it seem like he went into the police station and shot the chief of police. if they were plain clothed and shit, he had every right to shoot them if he thought they posed a threat.

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 12, 2002

and another thing. whether death row had bloods and crips or not, tupac still went up and asked "are you from the south?" he didnt' say shit about the chain first or at all as far as i know. and the think about hoppin hoods, i forgot to say, each time he went somewhere new, it's like he totally forgot about the places behind him. he was reppin oakland, lived in marin city, but i guess it didn't matter that much, cause after that, he didn't say shit about either place. it was all LA. whether he learned the game in the bay or not. i ain't tryna start shit, i am just sayin. some of yall idolize pac. there are better rappers and 2pac wasn't anything to really look up to. didn't he do time to for rape? why is that forgotten? you can't remember the shit you want to and forget the bad. why look up to someone so much that has done time for shit like that.

Diablo · Sep 12, 2002

CHRISDOGG14 said:

lol ...i ain't tryin 2 ride u homeboy but i gotta speak on it.....as for he wasn't much 2 look up 2 and there were better rappers, well, that's your opinion and your right. But u talkin like u know he was guilty of rape....i guess you think tyson was guilty 2....2 many down ass homeboys are doin time because a female decided to lie...common sense, he was a star she was a hoe...Same girl that accused him of rape was givin' tha guy oral in front of every1 at a club.... besides mystikal, if you were makin money n gettin fame and could get almost any woman u wanted, would YOU rape some1 ?

I also noticed in another post u defended master p for "hood hopping" saying that he repped his areas well....cummon now , ever since he left Richmond, Cali, he's got rappers like C-Bo n Yuk threatening 2 kill his ass if he ever comes back. I have yet to hear ONE rapper diss Tupac for "hood hopping"

Diablo · Sep 12, 2002

And while I'm at it, You can't just remember the bad (true or not) and forget all the good that he did.....b4 u reply 2 this i suggest u watch "Thug Angel" & "Immortal Outlaw" & listen to a few of his interviews ....u might not think he's the greatest rapper but you might see him in a different light

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 12, 2002

wait a minute. first of all, i don't know why no one ever brought up tupac hood hoppin, i am suprized they haven't. prolly cause he died not 2 long after he started reppin L.A. second. master p switched it up big time, that is completly different. i am sayin, when p was in each place, he repped it right. now, p is all salty, i can imagine alot of fools do want to kill him cause of how he has done stuff since. and obviously no, i don't no if he did rape that batch or not. i wouldn't put it past him though, when i heard that, it wasn't a suprize at all, tyson's shit was different. i will leave it at this, yall know how i feel about pac, and i ain't gonna change anyones mind about it, so i will leave it at that. i think i have said pretty much everything i can say.

CHRISHOGGALYPSE · Sep 12, 2002

alright, one more. yeah he did good, but yall sayin a bunch of shit to back him and i was on the other end of that conversation so that's why i didn't mention it. he did some good, he is still human. he ain't the worst person in the world and he was a good rapper, i mean i own some of his shit and still listen to a bit of it. it ain't all bad. where this started though was, he ain't as good as he is made out to be, if i had to be quoted about tupac, that is what i would say. he ain't as good as people make it seem. he was very influential and had alot of heart in his music, something alot of rappers lack, but he prolly wouldn't make it in my top five, yes, that is an opinion. close

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