Pac to fight Margarito in Mexico or Vegas

[2-0-Sixx]

Damn, you gave them 6 rounds each? What fight were you watching.

same fight you watched. I've seen in several times. There are four areas to score a round - ring generalship, clean/hard punching, defense, effective aggression. Some of those rounds were hard to score as well, so like I said, could have gone any which way including draw. Makes no difference now though

 

[bigface]

I think that this is a fight that will make Manny look great. Stone-Hands is made to order for Pac-man. He is a come forward no defense fighter. He had a all out war with Cotto, and a 10rd beating his very next fight against Mosley. Come on watch dudes last fight he's damaged good. Manny should do to him what he did to Hatton and Cotto. This should be easy work for Manny. If he doesn't KO Stone-Hands or blow him out every round, then Manny will have no chance at all against Mayweather. With that said I'm watching the fight, but I'm not paying for it without a great undercard.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

If he doesn't KO Stone-Hands or blow him out every round, then Manny will have no chance at all against Mayweather.

Margarto and Floyd are like polar opposites so I don't think this fight will tell us the slightest bit about what would happen if Pac fights Floyd.

 

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(I'm speaking in Pac-man fans logic right now) Mosley hurt Mayweather, which made you (2-0-Sixx) beleive that Manny can KO Mayweather because Pac-man is so much better then Mosley let the Manny fans tell it. It's my belief that if Mosley almost killed Stone -Hands and KO him in 10rds. That means if Manny doesn't do the same thing or better against a guy that already got beat by Mosley. The same Mosley that Mayweather already took to school. I beleive if Manny can't beat up and KO Stone-Hands, then how in the world do you people see him beating Mayweather?? All I'm saying is that Pac-man should have no trouble with Stone-Heads at all. Mosley had no trouble with him and KO him. If Manny is so much better then the so-called old man Mosley, then he should KO him easier then Mosley right?? Now do you get what i'm saying 2-0-Sixx?? Manny should have no trouble with Stone-Hands, old man Mosley didn't...

 

[T-Rip]

I believe Mosley would give Manny a lot of problems. I don't know why your counting out Margarito, he's only had 1 bad fight and it was cause Mosley had a good gameplan

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I see what you're saying but the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing. I've stated this before. Let me learn you:

Roberto Duran went 15 full rounds against Hagler. Hagler couldn't knock out Duran.
Roberto Duran got KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT by Tommy hearns in TWO ROUNDS.
Hagler knocked out Hearns in 3 rounds.

Using your logic, one could say, "how the hell could Hagler beats Hearns if he couldn't even really hurt Duran?"

You see that? That's a triangle theory, it doesn't work in boxing. Why? Because styles make fights. Everyone says this basic statement and yet people fail to understand what that means.

It took mayweather 10 rounds to KO ricky Hatton, whereas Pacquiao KO'd him in 2 rounds. Does that mean Pacquiao is better than Mayweather? No, absolutely not. All it means is that they have completely different styles of fighting.

 

[T-Rip]

Even if your not much of a boxing fan the first thing u should know is styles makes fights, its probably the most obvious thing also. Look at Hopkins gets worked by Taylor but dominated Tarver, Winky, and Pavlik.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

woah there at "worked by taylor" but i get ya!

 

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The funny thing is fact that I'm using your logic to make my case. You stated that you think Pac-Man can knock Mayweather out based on a punch that Mosley hit Mayweather with. People I'm using the Pac-Man fans logic to justify my case. If Mosley is so washed up and old and he beat Stone-Hands like Ike beat Tina. Then why should the boxer of the decade (Manny) have any trouble with old man Mosley's leftovers?? I don't need a boxing history lesson remember I'm using the Pac-Man fans logic so history don't matter. I'm just speaking to the very same people that want to discredit the Mosley win by Mayweather. If the so-called washed up past his prime Mosley almost killed this guy then surely Manny should do the same with no problem right??

 

[2-0-Sixx]

nah man, you're looking at it wrong.

I maintained that IF floyd fights Pacquiao the SAME WAY he fought shane, then pacquiao would catch him and beat him. This is analyzing styles.

The way Floyd fought shane is not the typical floyd fight. He stayed pretty much in front of mosley the entire fight and just used his upper body movement to dodge punches, rather than using his feet to get out of dodge and to stay at a very safe distance and pot shot. That shit wouldn't work against Pac.

To beat Pac he needs to keep a good distance, stay on his toes, use lateral movement and pot-shot all night long, that's how floyd could beat him.

People I'm using the Pac-Man fans logic to justify my case. If Mosley is so washed up and old and he beat Stone-Hands like Ike beat Tina.

I never said Mosley was washed up but he is a bit older 38. Probably the more important factor is that Shane hadn't fought in a year and half by the time he fought floyd. I think Floyd beats him regardless but long layoffs can be a problem especially for older guys. Like Bernard hopkins said it's harder to start your engine when you got an old car.

 

[Tony]

I believe Mosley would give Manny a lot of problems

Freddie Roach thought so too, that's why they ducked Mosley. They saw how Mosely brutally knocked Margarito out and didn't want no part of Mosely, even at a lower weight. So they chose Cotto who was brutally knocked out by Margarito.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

and having boxing history lessons is relivant. here is a lesson:

Roberto Duran beat Sugar Ray Leonard the first time they fought. Yes, Duran, the all pressure, no defense, offensive machine. How could he beat such a slick, athletic and talented fighter like Leonard? Because leonard CHOSE to fight Duran toe-to-toe.

In the rematch, Leonard BOXED and he boxed Duran's ears off until Duran said "no mas."

Make sense now how this is relevant?

If Floyd chooses to stay in front of Pacquiao, he'll end up with the same fate as Sugar Ray did against Duran the first time.

History can repeat itself. it's good to know it.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Freddie Roach thought so too, that's why they ducked Mosley. They saw how Mosely brutally knocked Margarito out and didn't want no part of Mosely, even at a lower weight. So they chose Cotto who was brutally knocked out by Margarito.

And floyd chose to not make $8 million dollars against Margarito so what's your point?

Floyd could have fought Cotto and/or Margarito. He chose ricky hatton and retirement.

 

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It's so funny how no one want to give credit to Mayweather for beating Mosley. But you want me to believe that the guy that Mosley KO'ed is such a dangerous fight for Pac-Man. I don't understand how a washed up past his prime guy like Mosley could have beat the Stone-Hand monster that Mayweather ducked. You people don't want to answer the question? If Mosley was so washed up like everyone wants to say, then I just don't see how this is a hard fight for Manny?? Please no history lesson 2-0-Sixx, you know by now that I know my boxing history already. I just don't understand how you people want to give Pac-Man credit for fighting a guy that got KO'ed by a washed up old man. But yet you want to discredit the Mayweather boxing lesson of the same old man the KO'ed the guy that you are giving Manny so much credit for fighting. I see the hate for Mayweather is strong. It's just funny no one in boxing today has a better resume then Mayweather but yet all his wins get discredited.. He's old and washed up, or he just got out of jail before the fight, it was not his right weight class, and he's ducking him..etc.. I'm just sick of it already. It's always some excuse why Mayweather is 41-0.

 

[Tony]

^Check the other thread we've been debating in and you'll see why!

 

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I would've fought 43-0 prime Ricky Hatton too for $25 million and a share of the UK fans. Which is one of the reasons why Money is the PPV king now. But hey what do I know about boxing?? LOL. People will never give this man his credit..