OT: Mims is on Jimmy Kimmel in a min

[Zer0.MediA]

This was a prop-worthy thread.

Mims isn't selling any records with this new shit he put out.

How many records is Bone selling these days? I'm not really a Mims fan, but who gives a fuck, first of all, and second of all, I could swear I saw Mims do two songs live on Jimmy Kimmel. I don't remember seeing Tech perform on tv anywhere, so maybe you can explain that to me.

 

[DaStonedGangsta]

This was a prop-worthy thread.



How many records is Bone selling these days? I'm not really a Mims fan, but who gives a fuck, first of all, and second of all, I could swear I saw Mims do two songs live on Jimmy Kimmel. I don't remember seeing Tech perform on tv anywhere, so maybe you can explain that to me.

bones last album, that came out a lil more then a year ago, went gold

 

[Poet Laureate]

This was a prop-worthy thread.



How many records is Bone selling these days? I'm not really a Mims fan, but who gives a fuck, first of all, and second of all, I could swear I saw Mims do two songs live on Jimmy Kimmel. I don't remember seeing Tech perform on tv anywhere, so maybe you can explain that to me.

WOW. Instead of always being an asshole, how about you actually read AND comprehend what other people are posting sometimes.

Just for the record, Bones last album outsold Mims debut album. And even if it were the other way around, i wouldn't care, and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Exactly how does taking a shot at the group in my sig prove me wrong? Maybe you can explain that to me. In the meantime, I will gladly explain to why my first post makes perfect sense........

What Mims FIRST album did doesn't mean shit. Tech wasn't on Music Is My Savior. Tech is featured on GUILT. And GUILT is not selling, therefore it doesn't do shit for Tech. As far as the Jimmy Kimmel thing, that once again doesn't do shit for Tech. Mims album selling, helps Tech, because then they will actually hear him. Unless Mims is wearin a t-shirt that says "Listen to Tech N9ne", Mims just being on TV doesn't do shit for him.

And even though Mims gets more exposure, Tech has a way more loyal fanbase than he ever will. If Mims first single is a hit, his album will probably sell decently. (See: his first album) If his first single is not a hit, his album will probably flop hard. (See: Guilt). You don't see people sayin "Damn, i can't wait till Mims drops." You don't see people saying he is their favorite rapper. Rappers like Mims don't have an actual fanbase. Jay Z can release wack shit, and it'll sell, because he's Jay Z. He has a fanbase. Kanye West can make a bullshit album in autotune, and shoot a bunch a vids wit him lookin bummy rockin a nappy mullet, and he'll sell because he has a fanbase. But if Mims doesn't come out the gates wit a catchy ass record, its a wrap for his album. Its better luck next album, or even worse, better luck next LABEL.

Tech might not be a huge mainstream artist, but he has CONSISTENTLY been the top independant rapper. Dude has been doing big things since Anghellic, which came out at the beginning of this decade. Mims could get dropped from his label tomorrow.

As of right now, Mims single, while dope IMO, isn't a big enough hit to really push units. His second single probably won't do much better, and after that, there will probably be no more singles. More than likely, Guilt won't come close to what his debut album did, and very few people will actually hear the track he did with Tech.

Mims putting him on the album is a nice gesture, and if his sales pick up it MIGHT get Tech a LITTLE attention. You can't really expect much from this though.



And yes, I'm aware that I typed an entire essay.

 

[Kain]

Way to judge an albums success on it's first week numbers. The album did some 12,000 first week, but do you think it'll suddenly be pulled from the shelves and Mims will lock himself in a room never to be seen again? He'll have an appearance on The Tonight Show or turn up on the Late Show, each appearance creating exposure, each helping sales. Each sale is the chance for someone who has never heard Tech to listen to Rock n Rollin and decide to check him out. May have only sold 12,000 first week, but that's an opportunity for 12,000 possible new fans, not to mention the continued sales of the album.

 

[Poet Laureate]

Way to judge an albums success on it's first week numbers. The album did some 12,000 first week, but do you think it'll suddenly be pulled from the shelves and Mims will lock himself in a room never to be seen again? He'll have an appearance on The Tonight Show or turn up on the Late Show, each appearance creating exposure, each helping sales. Each sale is the chance for someone who has never heard Tech to listen to Rock n Rollin and decide to check him out. May have only sold 12,000 first week, but that's an opportunity for 12,000 possible new fans, not to mention the continued sales of the album.

In most cases, the first week is the biggest week. Most artists sales drop or at the very least stay about the same week to week. You don't usually see an artist sell MORE one week then they did the previous. It could pick up..... but I doubt it.

It'll get Tech SOME exposure, but nothing huge.

And I honestly can't see to many Mims fans feelin Tech.

 

[Asmodeus]

For being entirely new, you have some common sense. You get a props based on that... Resume.

 

[Zer0.MediA]

You don't usually see an artist sell MORE one week then they did the previous.

Check out the sales on GNR's Appetite for Destruction album.

WOW. Instead of always being an asshole, how about you actually read AND comprehend what other people are posting sometimes.

What I pretty much saw, was you acting like an artist can get on live television and do two songs without any backing behind him. And you're saying that Mims doesn't sell also, which I think is funny because if he was so horrible I don't think he'd be on any show in the first place, without a record company pushing him as a product.

 

[smittytillidie]

^Whats the purpose of random negative hate. Any artist that supports Tech is good in my books even if its N8.

AMEN!

 

[Poet Laureate]

Check out the sales on GNR's Appetite for Destruction album.



What I pretty much saw, was you acting like an artist can get on live television and do two songs without any backing behind him. And you're saying that Mims doesn't sell also, which I think is funny because if he was so horrible I don't think he'd be on any show in the first place, without a record company pushing him as a product.

I said you USUALLY don't. Which is very much the case. The Guns N Roses thing is a big rarity.

I remember seeing J-Kwon perform a few songs on SNL. Where is he now? And Diddy has been known to drop artists with the quickness. (Watch Making The Band to see what I'm talking about) You're just a way for them to make money. Once they can't make anymore money off of you, you're done. One minute they're pushin you as a product, the next they're pushin you out the door. LL Cool J released Exit 13 last year. He doesn't sell like he used to, and it was his last album under his Def Jam contract. Because of this, they did nothign for the album. They pretty much left him for dead. He was one of their first artists and was with them for almost 25 years. Like I said before, Mims could get dropped tomorrow.......

And I'm not saying that his label isn't promoting him. I'm saying that he flopped, which is a straight fact. As far as whether or not his label is promoting him, they are. However, the more you sell, the longer/more they promote you. The less you sell, the less time they're gonna spend promoting you. So you can't expect too much more from his label now that his album flopped.

Look at someone like Beyonce. Beyonce releases an album and she gets 4 singles, a spanish version of her album, and then a re-release of the English version. For one of her albums she made like TEN low budget videos. But the crazy thing is.......MTV Jams played everyone of them back to back in huge blocks everyday. Her label is willing to put tons of money and promotion into her stuff, because they know they're gonna make a huge profit off of it when its all said and done. Why would a label put time and effort into something if its selling poorly? That would be a horrible business move.


Fact is Mims having the promo machine behind him isn't good promo for Tech. Mims being on Jimmy Kimmel isn't good promo for Tech. That's good promo for Mims. What's good for Tech, is Mims turning that promo into actual album sales. As of right now, it doesn't look like thats happenin.

 

[Zer0.MediA]

I remember seeing J-Kwon perform a few songs on SNL. Where is he now?

That's not really my point, and for the record (even if I'm ashamed to admit it) I actually bought that album. So... I can't honestly agree with you. Also, you should really keep your posts a little bit shorter. By the time I get done with them I've lost interest in the subject, really.

Diddy has been known to drop artists with the quickness. (Watch Making The Band to see what I'm talking about) You're just a way for them to make money.

That's because "Making the Band" is a fake-ass "reality" show just like all the other ones. I don't see Bret Micheals marrying every broad he chooses on Rock of Love.

Mims could this and Mims could that. The fact is, he was on TV supporting the album Tech is featured on, and I was saying that was a good thing. I don't know what the problem is here and at this point I really don't care. If you want to call names or something I'll do that but I'm not interested in talking the politics of the music business, because I already know.

You also should take into account the regions that Mims might be popular in, where Tech isn't getting a lick of exposure... ie; New York.