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Legman

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i didnt flip nothin. they were armens poorly chosen words about something he doesnt understand - i was throwing them back at him.
ay dumb shit

show me where i say immigration is illegal

im waitin bitch
 

Legman

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can anyone point out the words "CRIMINAL ELEMENT" to this fucking racist bitch?
 

Legman

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Why are the elements of immigration criminal ARMEN? VanD is sounding real smart right aboot now. :cheeky:
lol you kidding me?

yea cuz its a joke that folks get lead out into the boardlands by bandits who rob them then kill them after they collect money from them to help them cross the boarder?

or yet have you heard the joke about how they get lost out in the middle of nowhere and die from literally drying out, or freezing solid

the dessert and the mutha fuckas that exploit it and the people trying to cross it are ruthless bro...

the coyotes that are smuggling people are just as crooked as the cartels cuz guess what? they work together, how else would they be able to make money in the drug lords controlled area of operation?
 

Mac Jesus

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ARMEN did you not read what VanD posted?

"The sale of counterfeit U.S. brands on the Internet steals the creative work of others, costs our economy jobs and revenue and can threaten the health and safety of American consumers"

What you're talking aboot concerns the health and safety of NON-AMERICANS, you see?
 

Legman

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ARMEN did you not read what VanD posted?

"The sale of counterfeit U.S. brands on the Internet steals the creative work of others, costs our economy jobs and revenue and can threaten the health and safety of American consumers"

What you're talking aboot concerns the health and safety of NON-AMERICANS, you see?
do u not see what im saying?

ICE should worry about the CRIMINAL ELEMENTS INVOLED WITH IMMIGRATION

not worrying about shutting down websites with their bed buddies the DHS, theres bigger things to worry about in america then websites with downloads on em...we got bigger fish to fry, and one of them is immigration, which ICE IS PAID TO TAKE CARE OF(not websites)

fuck your retarded too
 

Mac Jesus

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All fucking around aside,

@VanD I'm pretty sure what ARMEN is eluding to is the fact that ICE should not be spending their resources on petty shit like torrent websites, and should rather be putting in man hours and investigations on shit like what he's been talking about. This is shit that continues to go on without resolution.

ICE may very well be doing more then one thing, but where they fail is in the fact that they are allocating their resources in the wrong areas and not doing enough to stop what ARMEN has so eloquently termed "the criminal element" of immigration.

It's the same sort of argument I was making earlier, when I said if the department of homeland security really wants to fight internet crime they should be going after websites such as 4chan that posts pedophile shit on the daily.

It's also the same sort of argument used by people who say the police force should focus on fighting real criminals such as rapists and murderers rather then focusing in on something petty such as drug users.
 

VanD

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i know what you're trying to say Mac HeyZeus, but some things are incorrect in all that and aren't relate-able to the police should be catching "real" criminals.

for 1, its not as easy to find them and there arent as many as there are of websites of piracy. if police could go to "rapist-godfathers.com" and locate all the rapists quickly and easily they would.

for 2, piracy and websites are used by many many more people and affect a larger scale. and while armen doesnt care about other peoples large amount of money being stolen - its probably because hes a cheap selfish pirate that would rather contribute to the theft of millions of dollars than to pay the 10 bucks for something.

does armen not care about any1's intellectual property rights vs piracy that he will say anything to make a point that he should be allowed to steal all the music and movies he wants? it sounds like armen hates the united states gov so much that it doesnt matter what they do - he will bitch and complain about it on a forum regardless. armen is free to leave this country and go enjoy another government - and i'd give him a prop if he really did but it probably wont ever happen.

and ICE is fucking huge. think of all the borders there are. think of all the international airports with customs. does armen really believe an internet task force from ICE is a waste of their resources? its probably the most cost effective crime fighting unit ever.

lastly, i'm pretty sure pedophile shit is FBI jurisdiction not DHS.
 
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i know what you're trying to say Mac HeyZeus, but some things are incorrect in all that and aren't relate-able to the police should be catching "real" criminals.

for 1, its not as easy to find them and there arent as many as there are of websites of piracy. if police could go to "rapist-godfathers.com" and locate all the rapists quickly and easily they would.

for 2, piracy and websites are used by many many more people and affect a larger scale. and while armen doesnt care about other peoples large amount of money being stolen - its probably because hes a cheap selfish pirate that would rather contribute to the theft of millions of dollars than to pay the 10 bucks for something.

does armen not care about any1's intellectual property rights vs piracy that he will say anything to make a point that he should be allowed to steal all the music and movies he wants? it sounds like armen hates the united states gov so much that it doesnt matter what they do - he will bitch and complain about it on a forum regardless. armen is free to leave this country and go enjoy another government - and i'd give him a prop if he really did but it probably wont ever happen.

and ICE is fucking huge. think of all the borders there are. think of all the international airports with customs. does armen really believe an internet task force from ICE is a waste of their resources? its probably the most cost effective crime fighting unit ever.

lastly, i'm pretty sure pedophile shit is FBI jurisdiction not DHS.
stfu you fruitcake
 

Roz

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As an artist with protected work, I'm glad they're shutting that shit down. Motherfuckers out there saving money on stuff while the people who CREATED IT get fucked over.

You're work is never protected 100%. If you're sole obligation as an "artist" is to make money, then I wouldn't call you an artist. Art is more about putting emotion down on a canvass, and sharing that with the world. They don't care about small time like you and me, only the big fish like the corporate interests that they have.
 
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You're work is never protected 100%. If you're sole obligation as an "artist" is to make money, then I wouldn't call you an artist. Art is more about putting emotion down on a canvass, and sharing that with the world. They don't care about small time like you and me, only the big fish like the corporate interests that they have.
My sole obligation as an artist is to do what I love, first and foremost. HOWEVER, when I put those words on a CD, I don't expect to give the shit away for free. Making music is a lot work, so at the end of the day ANY artist who wants to LIVE off what they LOVE needs to get paid for it. Saying that somebody is not a true artist because they won't just give their hard work away is a damn fool.

And yes, my work is 100% protected. If Universal Records stole my shit, I'd see them in court with my paperwork and they'd be fucked. There is no such thing as half-protected intellectual property...it's either protected or it's not.
 
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It's funny how homeland security wants to take down these sites but sites such as 4chan which have a plethora of child pornography posted on the daily will not be taken down in the same fashion.

Priorities.
because politicians fuck little boys in the ass. and child molesters are protected by the catholic church....SMH on some real shit.
 

Mac Jesus

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U.S. Government Seizes 82 Websites: A Glimpse at the Draconian Future of Copyright Enforcement?
Legal Analysis by Corynne McSherry
Over the past few days, the U.S. Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security and nine U.S. Attorneys’ Offices seized 82 domain names of websites they claim were engaged in the sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and illegal copyrighted works.

Setting aside the due process concerns inherent in seizing any website without notice or appropriate recourse for the owner, it appears that the "raid" has swept up several sites that are hardly in the business of willful copyright infringement. For example, the the list of targets included OnSmash.com and RapGodfathers.com. Both sites are dedicated to promoting rap and hiphop, showcasing new artists and helping fans connect and share information about the music they love. According to the owners, they regularly and expeditiously process copyright infringement notices and take down links as appropriate. Indeed, OnSmash says the labels themselves are often the source of the links OnSmash makes available. In other words, they try to play by the rules. Moreover, the sites are not simply collections of links; rather, they provide a wide array of information and forums for speech, all of which was rendered inaccessible by the seizure.

This type of seizure is not unprecedented, but we haven’t seen it happen on such a broad scale before. This kind of mass action raises at least three concerns:

First, these seizures may be just a short preview of the kind of overreaching enforcement we’ll see if the Congress passes the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA). That bill, which was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee on Nov 18, gives the government dramatic new copyright enforcement powers, in particular the ability to make entire websites disappear from the Internet if infringement, or even links to infringement, are deemed to be "central" to the purpose of the site. Rather than just targeting files that actually infringe copyright law, COICA’s "nuclear-option" design has the government blacklisting entire sites out of the domain name system — a reckless scheme that will undermine global Internet infrastructure and censor legitimate online speech. As we’ve noted, one of the most pernicious effects of COICA is likely to be just what we’ve seen here: the takedown of legitimate speech.

Second, the seizures also show why this kind of enforcement doesn’t work; seized sites were available at other domain names within hours. If the United States government increases interference in critical DNS infrastructure to police alleged copyright infringement, it is very likely that a large percentage of the Internet will shift to alternative DNS mechanisms that are located outside the US. This will cause numerous problems — including new network security issues, as a large percentage of the population moves to encrypted offshore DNS to escape the censoring effects of the procedures outlined in COICA. Presumably the DOJ and the DHS should be committed to improving network security — not undermining it.

Third, it’s hard to believe that this kind of action is the best use of the Department of Homeland Security’s resources. What investigations didn’t occur while the DHS spent its time and energy pursuing the agenda of large media companies? Moreover, it’s highly unlikely that this publicity stunt will really help creators get compensated. The best way to help artists of every stripe get compensated for their work is to make sure that there is a thriving marketplace of innovative digital businesses to pay them — business like OnSmash, which is committed to promoting new and unheralded artists.

We hope the legislators considering COICA will take a hard look at these issues before they vote. In the meantime, government officials should take an equally hard look at their enforcement priorities before they spend more of our tax dollars chasing websites.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/11/us-government-seizes-82-websites-draconian-future