On The Topic of Religion...

[n9newunsixx5150]

Who are some Youtube personalities you subscribe to or, at least, frequently watch?


A couple well-spoken atheist Youtubers I subscribe to are TheoreticalBullshit and DasAmericanAtheist. On the other side of things, there's the Christian, Veritas48. All three of them are pretty knowledgable and very articulate.

If anyone knows other good ones, mention them here.

 

[lil pk]

yusuf estes, bilal philips, imran hosein, and a couple others i cant think of.

 

[1God]

Thunderf00t is my favorite YouTube Atheist. Lately, he's been focusing more on nature and science, but his older videos are enough to convert a believer.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Lil PK,

Thanks, but these don't seem to be what I'm looking for.

I'm asking about Youtube personalities. By that, I mean, someone who actually logs-in to Youtube, posts a video, receives responses, and responds to them. The people you list don't appear to be actually on Youtube. Rather, it looks like other people post their videos. So it is sort of like someone telling me that Richard Dawkins is on Youtube. Sure, other people post videos with Dawkins, but he isn't himself on Youtube.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Thunderf00t is my favorite YouTube Atheist. Lately, he's been focusing more on nature and science, but his older videos are enough to convert a believer.

Thanks. I've heard of Thunderf00t, and I think I've seen some of his videos a while back. He seems to focus mostly on creationism and ID (i.e. teleological arguments.) You should check out TheoreticalBullshit and DasAmericanAtheist. They touch on pretty much every type of argument.

 

[1God]

Thunderf00t had an internet series called "Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?" He made like 50 episodes, and once you start watching one, you get addicted.

Nice Avatar, by the way. I never thought I'd see Krishna on The Siccness.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Believe it or not, Krishna was introduced to me by someone on The Siccness. That person hasn't been here for years, however.

 

[1God]

I'm a STRONG Atheist, but my father has hundreds of books about Krishna, religion, inner powers of the 7 chakras, and a lot of spiritual stuff like that, which I'm too lazy to mention all of, but he taught me as I grew. I love learning about the human body and its supernatural powers. I used to study stuff like Out Of Body Experiences, and suceeded in performing them twice in one year. Pretty good for a beginner, I think. That's why Indian religions are the only ones I respect, since they're all about becoming one with all matter.

I started doing breathing excercises every day, and I found myself in love with life even more. Every day is better than the last. My overall mood was much happier and I love to enlighten people about their unknown abilities.

Of course, none of this is shown in my music, since being an Acid Rapper requires absolute ruthlessness.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

I'm a STRONG Atheist, but my father has hundreds of books about Krishna, religion, inner powers of the 7 chakras, and a lot of spiritual stuff like that, which I'm too lazy to mention all of, but he taught me as I grew. I love learning about the human body and its supernatural powers. I used to study stuff like Out Of Body Experiences, and suceeded in performing them twice in one year. Pretty good for a beginner, I think. That's why Indian religions are the only ones I respect, since they're all about becoming one with all matter.

I started doing breathing excercises every day, and I found myself in love with life even more. Every day is better than the last. My overall mood was much happier and I love to enlighten people about their unknown abilities.

Of course, none of this is shown in my music, since being an Acid Rapper requires absolute ruthlessness.

That is interesting. Strong atheists, in my experience, tend to be strict physicalists. But if you've actually experienced an OBE, then it would seem that you have experience of a sort of mind/body dualism. Theism tends to say the same thing, both in regard to the individual person and the entire universe; i.e. that the individual soul animates the individual body just as the Supersoul (or God) animates the universal body.

 

[1God]

I have many lucid dreams and things such as those help remind me to stay on this track. I am atheist, but I truly believe in spirituality. I don't think there is a god, a creator of everything, but I do know that there are ways to achieve maximum bliss, with constant practice, which, in my opinion, is near impossible to acomplish in the environment we live in. I've read about excercises that only a handful of Yogis can train a person to do, and let me tell you, none of them live in America. That is why the best we can do here is read, but society's drastically dumbing down, so I fear that the actual physical knowledge of the things we mentioned will soon become extinct.

So, to explain my name "1God", I believe that we all have our own one god, who is within us. Actually, I don't even consider it a "who", but more like our inner will, or spirit. A Christian's view of god is nothing a human isn't capable of becoming. Are we not creators, too? I feel like I am in absolute control of my life and what happens in this world. I can do what I please, and I don't need a higher power to allow me. As long as I truly believe that I can, I will. Therefore, I am my own God, and I have become one with myself. That's just the spiritual part of my alias, excluding the Hip-Hop version.

My consciousness has always been more advanced than most peoples'. I've heard many people tell me how when they started smoking cannabis regularily, they started getting a voice in their head; a voice that I've had with me all life long. Ever since I was a baby, I've been studying the way people act. I read their voice tones, facial expressions, and actions of the body. I can always tell when someone's lying. That's also the way I judge people (like a God would).

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Well, the Vedic explanation is that God is within every living entity, even down to the atoms. This is called Paramatma or the Supersoul, which is not so different from the Christian Holy Spirit.

Are we not creators, too?

Miniature creators, perhaps. But even then, God is, by definition, the overall controller/creator. The best we can be is creators after the fact. That is, if we're using the word "creator" in a loose sense.

I feel like I am in absolute control of my life and what happens in this world. I can do what I please, and I don't need a higher power to allow me. As long as I truly believe that I can, I will.

Well, whether you identify that "higher power" as a god or as nature, the fact of the matter is that we are all subject to it. You can't fly at will or dive head-first off the Eiffel Tower and live, for example. There are laws that govern your physical existence, in other words.

The idea that we can each be our own gods is considered a symptom of Maya, or the illusory material nature. In fact, it is explained that the material universe is created because a portion of the souls desire to try and become their own enjoyers and controllers apart from God. God is, in this view, THE controller and enjoyer, whereas it is our position to take part in God's bliss, being part and parcel of Him. But currently we have decided to try and find bliss separate from God, which is considered the root of all illusion.

I often see both theists and atheists stressing God as creator, but if you think about it, "creator" isn't really one of God's core, transcendental features. God HAPPENS to create, but He doesn't do it upon His own consideration. For, if it were solely up to God, what possible reason would He have to create a world of temporary forms? God, as typically defined, is self-sufficient: He needs nothing and has nothing to gain. So, the Vedic version is that God creates because lesser (i.e. fallible) beings desire it. It is really only inferior beings who put value in creation or the ability to create. If God ever seems to put value in those things, it is only with qualification. In other words, God might value creation indirectly because He values His eternal souls, who in turn value creation.

 

[Dhadnot]

Krishna cool, but he dont be dropin Goku thunder bombs on nias like "how ya luh dat" like that boy Indra do.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Krishna cool, but he dont be dropin Goku thunder bombs on nias like "how ya luh dat" like that boy Indra do.

Well, whatever Indra can do, he got it from Krishna.

 

[1God]

To me, a creator of everything who sits in the sky is completely fictional. Why would anybody create infinite space and leave no evidence of him being there? And people praying for resurrection after death is nothing but human selfishness. What kind of person would want to live forever? That would be the greatest torture, and that is why death is beautiful. Thunderf00t talked about that once. He said, you'd get to live 1,000,000 years. And then 10,000,000,000 more years after that. And even 10,000,000,000,000,000 years AFTER THAT! And it would never end. You'd probably learn everything in a couple billion years, you'd get bored so quickly, you'd eventually PRAY TO DIE. But of course, we all know that after death, all that happens is bugs eat your corpse.

 

[NZTECHFAN]

nice views 1god

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

To me, a creator of everything who sits in the sky is completely fictional.

I assure you that if the definition of God were "a creator of everything who sits in the sky" there would be far less theists.

Why would anybody create infinite space and leave no evidence of him being there?

I'm pretty sure that modern science doesn't say that the universe is infinite. But that aside, I think the core question here pertains to an apparent absence of God. Go back to what I said about why God creates. If the reason for creation is to facilitate beings who desire to enjoy apart from God, then the illusion of no-God is necessary. In effect, the world is the blanket pulled over our eyes. It is the illusion that we can conquer and enjoy, even though we are suffering at every turn.

And people praying for resurrection after death is nothing but human selfishness. What kind of person would want to live forever?

I'll agree that praying to live forever is selfish. Ideally, prayer isn't to ask for extraneous things. It is meant to bring the individual in communion with God. Although, people do often fall short of this ideal.

That would be the greatest torture, and that is why death is beautiful. Thunderf00t talked about that once. He said, you'd get to live 1,000,000 years. And then 10,000,000,000 more years after that. And even 10,000,000,000,000,000 years AFTER THAT! And it would never end. You'd probably learn everything in a couple billion years, you'd get bored so quickly, you'd eventually PRAY TO DIE. But of course, we all know that after death, all that happens is bugs eat your corpse.

This is an imperfect calculation because we are basing our understanding on the conditions of life here. We have no idea how things might be if such an eternity exists for individuals. Sure, if I had to live in the conditions I am in now, I wouldn't want to live forever. Hell, I wouldn't want to live for even 1,000 years. But if there is a "heaven" or "paradise" where we live forever, the idea is that we are forever blissful there. Somehow or other, we don't get bored nor desire nonexistence.

 

[1God]

Okay, what is your definition of God, then? Who or what is God to you?

 

[NovaFire]

God HAPPENS to create, but He doesn't do it upon His own consideration. For, if it were solely up to God, what possible reason would He have to create a world of temporary forms? God, as typically defined, is self-sufficient: He needs nothing and has nothing to gain. So, the Vedic version is that God creates because lesser (i.e. fallible) beings desire it. It is really only inferior beings who put value in creation or the ability to create. If God ever seems to put value in those things, it is only with qualification. In other words, God might value creation indirectly because He values His eternal souls, who in turn value creation.

God Is Love, and from here is where all Gods actions originate.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

It isn't that I am necessarily against God residing in some sort of "sky" or being in a sitting position. I just think that is way over simplistic of a description, even it if it true.

What is usually meant by "God" entails such things as being eternal, the owner and controller of all potencies or energies, the reservoir of all ability, bliss, knowledge, etc. If God happens to be sitting in some sky, great. But I'm sure God could be dancing too. Questions of sitting and dancing obviously pertain to whether or not we understand God as having some sort of form. This is probably a more advanced discussion. But the basic idea of God is as I explained above: eternal, supreme owner and controller, reservoir of all things/qualities/abilities/happiness.

 

[1God]

...And is that Krishna?