OC Dre bootleg?
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Well the man said it himself, that T-Mo repressed. He even said that he was hoping that there would be a difference between the two pressings, but there weren't.
It's easy to achieve the same exact look of he and the manufacturing company (Disc Makers (who presses for Sony) has the original masters on file. They simply repress them with the exact specs. That's how there would be no differences.
Man, thanks Flaimm. I forgot about that conversation/thread too.
Like I said I don't mind represses, but I won't pay more than $12. I don't care if it's the first time that an album dropped, was converted from tape to CD professionally either. I will still only pay $12 at most (before shipping). Not a dollar more.
I'm not going to get personal on this topic, but I will say that some of us need to stop making excuses. It is what it is. This O.C. Dre CD is a bootleg, I'm almost 100% sure that the T-Mo "Tribal Groove" is now, because of what the seller's original information about the CD. It is what it is.
All of this madness will stop once you stop lining the pockets of the people who are responsible for this madness. That's totally up to us who are in this community.
I'm out!
It's easy to achieve the same exact look of he and the manufacturing company (Disc Makers (who presses for Sony) has the original masters on file. They simply repress them with the exact specs. That's how there would be no differences.
Man, thanks Flaimm. I forgot about that conversation/thread too.
Like I said I don't mind represses, but I won't pay more than $12. I don't care if it's the first time that an album dropped, was converted from tape to CD professionally either. I will still only pay $12 at most (before shipping). Not a dollar more.
I'm not going to get personal on this topic, but I will say that some of us need to stop making excuses. It is what it is. This O.C. Dre CD is a bootleg, I'm almost 100% sure that the T-Mo "Tribal Groove" is now, because of what the seller's original information about the CD. It is what it is.
All of this madness will stop once you stop lining the pockets of the people who are responsible for this madness. That's totally up to us who are in this community.
I'm out!
again that t-mo isnt a repress. ask t-mo yourself on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/tribal.groove.1?fref=ts
it is simply not possible to reconstruct a ringcode after 17 years in the 100% same way. even if you want it bad that this was a reprint but it still isnt, 100% og copies.if you know something about original cds and reprints, you will look at the t-mo cd and directly recognize its the real deal.
about the thread i explain it one more time, i called that guy back then it was sony d or mike b, i dont know why i said that it was t-mo himself,that thread is 5-6 years old, if i would have got t-mo represses back then , they would a) as we found out later defintily have a difference in the ringcode as nobody ever saw in this cd game a cd after so many years with an identical ringcode and an identical font, never not in even one case whatever i said back then, show me one proof that you ever saw a cd that was repressed looks 1000% identical, you will see its not possible and b) if you see it logical i wouldnt have waited 5-6 years to sell them.
https://www.facebook.com/tribal.groove.1?fref=ts
it is simply not possible to reconstruct a ringcode after 17 years in the 100% same way. even if you want it bad that this was a reprint but it still isnt, 100% og copies.if you know something about original cds and reprints, you will look at the t-mo cd and directly recognize its the real deal.
about the thread i explain it one more time, i called that guy back then it was sony d or mike b, i dont know why i said that it was t-mo himself,that thread is 5-6 years old, if i would have got t-mo represses back then , they would a) as we found out later defintily have a difference in the ringcode as nobody ever saw in this cd game a cd after so many years with an identical ringcode and an identical font, never not in even one case whatever i said back then, show me one proof that you ever saw a cd that was repressed looks 1000% identical, you will see its not possible and b) if you see it logical i wouldnt have waited 5-6 years to sell them.
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yes i do understand your concerns and i really dont want to put me in a position that you have to believe me now, thats not working, i lied in the past. i really like it when people stop assuming here and not just say something because someone said this or that. if you want to find out what is real or not, then just do a research yourself, its very easy and takes you like 10 minutes , then you will find out if the t-mo cd is a newer print or not. some people here re researching very well and thats the way it should be.
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thanks sincere for clearing up this situation.
the funny thing about this whole situation is that I sold my copy to ratatatati69 and he told me it wasn't the OG copy when he received it. Since I didn't know about the represses I asked him to shed some light into this situation, before I give him a refund. All of a sudden he was like: "no it's ok I'll sell it on eBay" and now he's sellin' a OC Dre that wasn't even mine. When I asked him about this thing he told me the version he is selling is the version I sold him. Which is obviously NOT the truth!
the funny thing about this whole situation is that I sold my copy to ratatatati69 and he told me it wasn't the OG copy when he received it. Since I didn't know about the represses I asked him to shed some light into this situation, before I give him a refund. All of a sudden he was like: "no it's ok I'll sell it on eBay" and now he's sellin' a OC Dre that wasn't even mine. When I asked him about this thing he told me the version he is selling is the version I sold him. Which is obviously NOT the truth!
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no im not seeing you as you re hating , dont worry but what do you guess ,it lays pretty much on hand or not ?
6 years ago i said that 1500 represses will be made and since 6 years not even one repress cd popped up. mike d never pressed them up, that happened. on the phone he told me they gonna look the same, thats what made me writing my post back then,
as we later found out thru all the repressing activities, its impossible for cds to look exactly the same.
last year i talked to sony b and asked him about the cd and t-mo, he didnt talk to t-mo since they did the album , the same situation for mike d, as i found out later stated by t-mo. funny thing is t-mo is holding all rights for that record, he just booked sony b and mike d , so if mike d would have repressed the album , it would have been a straight bootlegg, illegally made and not authorized by t-mo since they were not in contact and re still not !
t-mo is repairing and selling cars since years and really wouldnt have known anything about the hype about the cd or any represses if i wouldnt have told sony to search t-mo for me and did a deal with both.it worked out and t-mo still had originals and in addition to that a full unreleased vol.2 album which was recorded at the same time period which we re going to release now.
6 years ago i said that 1500 represses will be made and since 6 years not even one repress cd popped up. mike d never pressed them up, that happened. on the phone he told me they gonna look the same, thats what made me writing my post back then,
as we later found out thru all the repressing activities, its impossible for cds to look exactly the same.
last year i talked to sony b and asked him about the cd and t-mo, he didnt talk to t-mo since they did the album , the same situation for mike d, as i found out later stated by t-mo. funny thing is t-mo is holding all rights for that record, he just booked sony b and mike d , so if mike d would have repressed the album , it would have been a straight bootlegg, illegally made and not authorized by t-mo since they were not in contact and re still not !
t-mo is repairing and selling cars since years and really wouldnt have known anything about the hype about the cd or any represses if i wouldnt have told sony to search t-mo for me and did a deal with both.it worked out and t-mo still had originals and in addition to that a full unreleased vol.2 album which was recorded at the same time period which we re going to release now.
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Psycho- post up a scan if you can. I cant see shit in those 2 pics of the bootlegs.
I got one of indos tribal grooves. It seems legit enough. Shrinkwrap looks like a 15 year old cd. I dont believe its impossible to duplicate a ringcode BUT t-mo is niche/obscure and the people bootlegging mobb shit have limited resources and you can only make so much profit off them. if the beatles catlog went oop and people were bootlegging them i think itd be different.
I have a hard time believing this is a perfect bootleg when we've never seen one. I dont see why ballin tribe would have a perfect blueprint of the album including ringcode on hand ready to replicate. Look at all the major label reissues with scanned covers and thats the cover... Shows they dont keep that shit. And if we saw perfect replicas id think itd be a major label album since they might have kept a better record of the specifics of the disk.
Who knows... I tend to think indos are real. I think he said it was a perfect copy in the pre ringcode awareness days. It also seems like a stretch for him or tmo to have done it as well as they did.... But who knows, i am a little suspicious.
I got one of indos tribal grooves. It seems legit enough. Shrinkwrap looks like a 15 year old cd. I dont believe its impossible to duplicate a ringcode BUT t-mo is niche/obscure and the people bootlegging mobb shit have limited resources and you can only make so much profit off them. if the beatles catlog went oop and people were bootlegging them i think itd be different.
I have a hard time believing this is a perfect bootleg when we've never seen one. I dont see why ballin tribe would have a perfect blueprint of the album including ringcode on hand ready to replicate. Look at all the major label reissues with scanned covers and thats the cover... Shows they dont keep that shit. And if we saw perfect replicas id think itd be a major label album since they might have kept a better record of the specifics of the disk.
Who knows... I tend to think indos are real. I think he said it was a perfect copy in the pre ringcode awareness days. It also seems like a stretch for him or tmo to have done it as well as they did.... But who knows, i am a little suspicious.
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