i could see obama running, but hillary, no way, she is a joke. she'll never win. this could hurt Obama's image but if he does start forming opinions, like what was said a few posts back, he could give a damn good run. im moderate/conservative, but i think Obama could get it. It might be hard against Giuliani, i think i messed his name up, but, the ex-mayor of New York. He said he is gonna run, so this will be an interesting presidential campaign