OAKLAND RAIDERS OFFSEASON THREAD

  • Wanna Join? New users you can now register lightning fast using your Facebook or Twitter accounts.
Jun 1, 2002
7,358
14
0
44
#61
Looking for Lane in all the wrong places
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, February 23rd, 2008 at 1:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A few notes Saturday while seeing virtually every Raiders employee at the combine but Lane Kiffin:

– Yes, he’s here, according to Raiders assistants as well as a few league sources.

– Because of the agility demands of the Raiders zone blocking scheme, line coach Tom Cable estimated that two-thirds of the linemen are eliminated off the top.

“Maybe not quite that much if they lose a little weight,” Cable said.

– Chris Long’s first memory of Al Davis was trying to make sure the Raiders owner didn’t see him.

Long, the son of Raiders Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long and considered a lock to be among the top four picks in the draft, was breaking wanted to watch practice.

“Those were the rules,” Long said. “It wwas a no visitation time . . . don’t tell Al Davis that happened.”

Long said he remembered eventually meeting Davis but hasn’t seen him since, and downplayed the significance of wearing Raiders colors as his father did.

“It would mean the same as playing anywhere else, honestly,” Long said. “It would be an opportunity to play in the NFL. Obviously there’s so much more to it there. I’m not afraid of any situation or any burden with the name. I’ve been dealing with this stuff my whole life. But obviously it will be taken to a new level in a place like that. It’s pressure, but I tend to welcome any pressure with open arms.”

– Perhaps it was just the name lat name on the back of his T-shirt, or maybe it was the protective boot on his left foot, at first glance I don’t like the chances of a Maryland center named Andrew Crummey.

Of course, the Giants took an offensive lineman named Guy Whimper last year and now he’s being fitted for a Super Bowl ring.

– No. 4 may be too high, but the Raiders might be intrigued by the pass rushing ability of Vernon Gholston. A former Ohio State teammate of Jay Richardson, Gholston can play standing up or with a hand on the ground and some scouts think he could be similar to Shawne Merriman of San Diego and DeMarcus Ware of Dallas in terms of immediate impact.

At 6-foot-3, 266 pounds, Gholston is smaller than Richardson, built more along the lines of Derrick Burgess.

Gholston thinks the New York Giants’ win over Tom Brady and the New England Patriots will only enhance the value of defensive linemen.

“I know how big the defensive line is. If yhou’ve got a front four that can control the game, you’re destined for championships,” Gholston said. “That was proven, the way they were able to take advantage of their speed and get to the quarterback.”

– With the Washington Redskins projected to be over the $116 million salary cap, V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato was all but ruling his team out of the running for top tier free agents.

“The price of what these guys are going to be paid is astronomical,” I don’t foresee us being a big player in free agency. I don’t think Dan’s plane is going to be fired up and ready to go. I think it’s going to be a relatively quiet start of free agency for us. The price of what these guys are going to be paid is astronomical.”

– Penn State linebacker Dan Connor, who may be the lone inside linebacker to be taken in the first round, had a disciplinary issue in college normally associated with fifth-graders.

“I was going into my sophomore year and me and a couple of buddies were making prank phone calls and got found out,” Connor said. “It got back to coach Paterno, and he sat us down for three games. It was a tough experience, and we definitely learned our lesson.”

Connor said the calls weren’t malicious in nature.

“We were definitely joking,” Connor said. “We were doing impressions of the coaches, things like that.”

Legend has it that Rich Gannon wasn’t above a crank phone call to a rookie’s room during training camp. According to one story, Gannon called the room of one rookie and posed as a reporter, asking a few normal questions before finishing with an inquiry about a specific portion of the anatomy.

– Talked with a contracted scouting assistant named Don Pallotto, who comes to the combine each year and logs figures for the Raiders with Jon Kingdon. He also attends some college games much in the manner of a bird dog baseball scout. Pallotto said the Raiders have such scouts in every city in the NFL.

– The Indiana Convention Center hallways were a mix of coaches, agents, reporters, autograph seekers and pint-sized gymasts. The center is also playing host to a youth gymnastics event.

Some of the kids getting autographs aren’t too discerning. A boy wearing a Purdue jersey and appearing about 10 years old got the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter to sign, then Sports Illustrated’s Peter King. When King asked him about his signatures, the boy said, “I just got Adam Sheffler.”

– Many agents attend the combine to procure workouts for clients who weren’t among the invited athletes.

Jason Dillard, a Sacramento-based agent, was passing out T-shirts with pictures and statistics for four players _ Fresno State running back/return specialist Clifton Smith, Washington defensive back Roy Lewis, Fresno State defensive bcak Damon Jenkins and UNLV defensive back Mil’von James.

Above the pictures and statistical capsules on the front of the shirt it says, `Have You Seen These Guys?” On the back it says “Missing.”

Dillard was giving shirts out to the media and informational flyers to coaches and scouts.
 
Jun 1, 2002
7,358
14
0
44
#66
LOL!!

Catching up with Kiffin
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, February 23rd, 2008 at 6:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Found a new office for a couple of hours Saturday _ a lounge chair in front of four elevator doors at the Indianapolis Hyatt Regency.

Lane Kiffin was nowhere to be found on what one general manager calls “The Gauntlet,” a long stretch between the media center and the RCA Dome at the Indiana Convention Center. After arriving Friday night, Kiffin took alternate routes from his hotel to the stadium and tried his best to stay underground.

But unless Kiffin wanted to find a stairwell, he was going to have to use an elevator at some point, and eventually I saw him rounding the corner and heading toward the elevator.

Predictably, Kiffin cordially and politely declined comment. No answers regarding the retention of defensive coordinator Rob Ryan or the hiring of James Lofton. Nothing on reports of being asked to resign and being stripped of responsibility. No light shed on his relationship with Al Davis and the possibility that he won’t last the season, if he makes it that far at all.

For those interested in his wardrobe, his silver shirt had an NFL shield, rather than a Raiders logo. Every other Raiders coach I’ve seen since arriving Wednesday evening has worn Raiders gear.

The Raiders’ company line has been that Kiffin simply doesn’t want to feed the fire and that he has no time or inclination to address every report.

When it comes to the published word, no one wants to comment on Raiders business although everyone is talking about it.

After speaking with a number of people both in and out of the organization over the past few days, the feeling here is Kiffin is no lock to be the Raiders coach when the season begins.

Those who side with Kiffin believe he has been stripped of his authority and that Davis is attempting to get him to resign. Either Davis’ words about Kiffin’s acumen with regard to personnel a year ago was just a lot of press conference bull, or Davis changed his mind.

Kiffin is viewed as being stuck in an organization where Davis is essentially the owner, the general manager, the personnel director, the scouting department and the defacto defensive coordinator _ all at age 78.

As things stand now Kiffin isn’t expected to have much input into choosing the 53 men he is supposed to coach. Is it a temporary punishment or something more permanent? Only Davis knows for sure.

The opinion was offered that Davis, strangely enough, did not respond well to the generally positive media reviews Kiffin received. In his mind, Kiffin was 4-12 and should have been more accountable for that record.

As for the Arkansas rumors, which Raiders senior executive John Herrera conceded bothered Davis, some thought it was a siginficant issue and others weren’t so sure.

There has been no documentation regarding Kiffin and Arkansas, but consider that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is an Arkansas alum and a close friend of Davis who wouldn’t hesitate to pick up the phone if he heard anything.

There are some who believe Kiffin will either be fired, reach a settlement or resign some time in March.

Davis isn’t without his supporters.

In some quarters, Kiffin is seen as an ingrate. Davis gives him the opportunity of a lifetime as a then-31-year-old head coach, and then Kiffin essentially trashes the entire organization, telling Davis it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Kiffin can at times be refreshingly blunt, but he has a reputation for not always having good people skills. He is not one to finesse an issue or paint a rosy picture if he doesn’t believe one exists. Marching into the owner’s office and telling Davis how to fix his tattered team might not have been the best way to get things accomplished.

As volatile as Jon Gruden was, he always seemed grateful for the opportunity to be an NFL head coach and simply persevered when he didn’t get his way.

Most important, Gruden never lost more games than he won.

Can things be repaired? At the moment, Kiffin is on thin ice. Whether it was symbolic or not, the sun came out Saturday in Indianapolis and the ice and snow on the ground were melting.
 

Chree

Medicated
Dec 7, 2005
32,363
13,861
113
39
#69
At the season-ending press conference, Lane Kiffin hinted that Huff, slightly built for a strong safety and more of a form tackler than a big hitter, might be on the move to free safety. Since then, it remains to be seen just how much input Kiffin will have with regard to Huff or anyone else, and two league sources said during the week that it is no secret in league circles that Huff is available by trade.
 
Jun 1, 2002
7,358
14
0
44
#70
Safety-challenged
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, February 24th, 2008 at 9:40 am in Oakland Raiders.

Will this be the year the Raiders either sign or discover a playmaker or a big-hitter to play safety?

The safety class is not considered particularly strong. When the first round is complete, Miami’s Kenny Phillips could be the only named called, and it’s possible no safeties at all will be taken. Alabama’s Simeon Castille was an intriguing playmaker for Nick Saban at Alabama who played cornerback but seemed to do his best work inside as a nickel corner and safety.

Other than one last great year out of Rod Woodson in 2002, safety play has been a problem for the Raiders since they came back to Oakland in 1995. One of their more remarkable accomplisments was making it all the way to the AFC championship game in 2000 with Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett manning the last line of defense.

Stuart Schweigert was displaced by Hiram Eugene as the starter last season, and it wasn’t much of an upgrade. Eugene missed tackles at roughly the same rate as Schweigert. Michael Huff has one interception in 32 games at strong safety.

At the season-ending press conference, Lane Kiffin hinted that Huff, slightly built for a strong safety and more of a form tackler than a big hitter, might be on the move to free safety. Since then, it remains to be seen just how much input Kiffin will have with regard to Huff or anyone else, and two league sources said during the week that it is no secret in league circles that Huff is available by trade.

I’m skeptical about pulling that off, because the Raiders, the justifiable Randy Moss giveaway aside, usually ask for way more than teams are willing to give and Huff, while decent in coverage against tight ends, has not been a playmaker or much of a help in the box stopping the run.
 
Jun 1, 2002
7,358
14
0
44
#71
Raiders might consider Long shot
Virginia defensive end seen as an inspiring force
By Jerry McDonald, STAFF WRITER
Article Created: 02/24/2008 02:35:51 AM PST


INDIANAPOLIS — Chris Long remembers lying on the floor of his parents' car, trying to be invisible so Al Davis wouldn't see he was trying to sneak into practice.
"Don't tell Al Davis that happened," Long said Saturday at the NFL combine, fully cognizant of the fact that Davis and everyone else knows exactly who he is.

Many people believe Long, a defensive end out of Virginia, will be gone before the Raiders select at No.4 in the NFL draft in New York on April 26. Miami, St. Louis and Atlanta draft before Oakland, and a case could be made for any of those teams to select the son of Raiders Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long.

If Long were to fall to No.4, at least one NFL general manager who declined to be named thinks the Raiders would jump at the chance to make him a legacy.

"I think the Raiders will end up with either Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long or Sedrick Ellis — and they would be happy with any one of them," he said.

When it comes to the draft, Oakland's reputation for unpredictability has more to do with their assessment of players than it does with selection philosophy. Their premium picks in recent years have fallen in line with perceived needs.

With the retirement of Warren Sapp, a mediocre pass rush and an inability to stop the run, the Raiders' primary need is a galvanizing, energizing force on defense. Long, Dorsey and Ellis are all advertised as being snap-to-whistle players on every down.

"They're all high-effort


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Advertisement

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
players — winning is important to them," Rams vice president of player personnel Billy Devaney said. "They're not in it for the flash. Being good football players and working hard is really what drives them."
If there is a glitch where Long is concerned, it is that his strength in college was as an end in a 3-4 defense, while the Raiders have played almost exclusively 4-3 in recent years. Long is listed at 6-foot-4, 275 pounds, but at first glance doesn't appear to be as imposing in stature as his father.

As a senior, Long was credited with 14 sacks, 23 pressures, nine pass breakups and twice forced fumbles that resulted in Virginia scores.

"I don't think of myself as doing anything extraordinary with my effort," Long said. "I think that's just the way football is supposed to be played, at a high speed. I'm not a guy who does things half-speed well. It's been pretty natural for me to go that fast."

As a youth, Long sneaked into a Raiders practice session by hiding in the family car.

"No families were allowed in," Long said. "There were rules. It was a no-visitation time."

He said he later met Davis, but hasn't talked to the man since he was a kid. He sounded ambivalent about the prospect of following in his father's footsteps.

"It would mean the same as playing anywhere else, honestly," Long said. "It would be an opportunity to play in the NFL. Obviously there is so much to it there. I'm not afraid of any situation or any burden with the name. I've been dealing with it my whole life. Obviously it would be taken to a new level in a place like that. It's pressure, but I tend to welcome pressure with open arms."

Both Ellis (6-1, 305) and Dorsey (6-2, 316) would fit nicely into the three-gap tackle position vacated by Sapp. Oakland's coaching staff got a close look at Ellis while coaching him at the Senior Bowl.

"He made some plays for us," Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said.

Ellis had 8.5 sacks and 8.5 tackles behind the line of scrimmage for USC and was named the Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year.

He sees his height as an advantage rather than a detriment.

"A lot of people like taller tackles, but I think my height is just great," Ellis said. "You can get these 6-5 linemen, and I can get underneath them and uproot them out of what they're trying to do. Great footwork, great hands and the leverage I think works to my advantage."

Devaney, whose Rams' select No.2, will look closely at Dorsey if he is available.

"I love Dorsey as a player," Devaney said. "I think he's an impact guy, an every-down guy, first, second and third. He elevates people around them, makes them better."
 
Jun 1, 2002
7,358
14
0
44
#72
Jockeying for position
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, February 25th, 2008 at 9:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Some better-late-than-never wrap-up notes after traveling home from the NFL combine Sunday:

– The prevailing opinion going in was that LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey might be out of reach for the Raiders, while Arkansas running back Dwight McFadden not only be there, but still might not be worth the risk because of “character concerns.”

That was before Dorsey made an extra hospital visit for more investigation on a previous stress fracture and McFadden’s blazing 40-yard dash performance put a smoky haze on his reputation for nightlclubbing and paternity suits.

Of course, Dorsey has two months to have his feet thoroughly checked out and McFadden can still get into trouble before April 26.

– Something to remember about 40-yard dash times _ they’re unofficial and change from one timer to the next.

Unbelievably, a league that produces all this money runs their combine 40s without an electronically timed finish. Some teams have their own timers and that is all they use.

Frank Cooney from The Sports Xchange breaks down how the 40 works, the scouting service which the NFL uses to post times for the media on the NFL web site, explained the process in its own Web site:

Those who participate in the 40 actually run twice, and on each run they are timed by two hand-held stopwatches and one electronic timer (that is actually initiated by hand on the player’s first movement).

Combine data put together for NFL teams by National Scouting includes all six of those times for each player, but no single official time.

Team scouts and coaches have various approaches for getting the 40 time they use from those six timings. Some use averages. Some throw out slowest and fastest and then average the rest. Some ignore the whole thing and use a time taken by their own scout.

By one clocking, McFadden ran a 4.27. The NFL, through SportsXchange, had it at 4.33

According to Sports Xchange, McFadden was beaten by East Carolina’s Chris Johnson, who timed 4.24.

Not that Jackson’s time is a guarantee of success. The 4.24 time tied their fastest recorded mark by someone named Rondel Melendez, a wide receiver from Eastern Kentucky who went 4.24 in 1999 and never made a mark on the NFL.

– Raider corners Fabian Washington and Stanford Routt both went 4.29 according to SportsXchange in 2005, although that may not have been the times the Raiders recorded.

– Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston was impressive with 38 bench press reps at 225 pounds, although it’s worth noting another Ohio State defensive end named Mike Kudla had 45 reps in 2006. Ever heard of him? He’s got a “Bench Press Supersite” Web page which advertises a 610 pound bench press as a senior.

It didn’t make him a pass rusher.

– The physical tests lag far behind the medical evaluations and interview opportunities in terms of value. Someone like DeSean Jackson needed only to prove he was fast (he did, with a 4.35 or 4.31, depending on who did the timing), and then the rest of his appearance was being poked, prodded and having his psyche explored in a 15-minute interview.

– Hard to imagine a prospect so far above the rest it would be worth moving up to the top pick. Colts owner Bill Polian seemed relieved to have a team good enough that he doesn’t have to worry about it.

“Now you face the proposition of saying if I’m after the first pick and I have to pay $30 million for it, how much do I want to give up in addition to that?,” Polian said. “And if you fail with that pick, your franchise is saddled with an albatross that
you can’t get rid of for who knows how long. It’s completely changed because ofthe cost of those picks and in my view, that’s wrong. It should change. That’s bad for the game. It isn’t about money, it’s about the integrity of the game on the field.”

The NBA’s system of paying rookies makes far more sense.

If you’re Miami and the best player on the board is Chris Long, how comfortable do you feel dropping $30 million plus in guarantees on a player who was compared to Patrick Kerney, who as a free agent last season signed a contract with $19.5 million in guarantees with Seattle?

Even if the Raiders could have traded out of the No. 1 pick in the draft last season, chances are there weren’t many takers.

– Had a nice chat with Lane Kiffin at the Hyatt Saturday before he decided he wouldn’t speak on the record regarding all things Raider, but apparently was asleep for the real show well after midnight. Sac Bee beat writer Jason Jones spotted Kiffin at a cigar bar called Nicky Blaine’s and nearby nightspot Ike & Jonseys. According to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution blog, Kiffin was even seen “cutting the rug” at the latter establishment.

– With several top quality restarants and brew pubs within walking distance in downtown Indianapolis, it’s always an amusing sight to see so many head coaches and assistants ducking into the corner “Steak and Shake” for one of those regrettable late-night feasts.
 

Tony

Sicc OG
May 15, 2002
13,165
970
113
47
#73
Let me change my opinion about McFadden... I said he wasn't all that. Did they clock him at 4.27? Or at worst 4.33? WTF? That is super fast for anybody let alone a running back. I know he has off the field problems but if he's there at number 4 I think the Raiders should take a shot. Maybe... just maybe.... But boy that cat is fast....
 
May 1, 2002
2,930
567
0
41
#79
DAM I WISH THIS KIFFIN SHIT WOULD STOP ITS ANNOYING AS FUCK.....EVERY YEAR THERE IS ALWAYS A PLAYER THAT IS HYPED UP THIS YEAR ITS MCFADDEN I'D RATHER THE RAIDERS GET A SOLID OL OR DT IN THE 1ST ROUND
 
Nov 7, 2002
1,155
111
0
#80
DAM I WISH THIS KIFFIN SHIT WOULD STOP ITS ANNOYING AS FUCK.....EVERY YEAR THERE IS ALWAYS A PLAYER THAT IS HYPED UP THIS YEAR ITS MCFADDEN I'D RATHER THE RAIDERS GET A SOLID OL OR DT IN THE 1ST ROUND
Feel the same way if we go after Mcfadden what the hell did we draft bush for? I mean last year we had a shit load of picks and the only one to do shit on offense was Miller. We need line men on both sides and a WR running back not a need at all.