OAKLAND RAIDERS OFFSEASON THREAD

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On QB JaMarcus Russell’s holdout last season: “It’s like we had him (in minicamp), and then they took him away from us. But he has been great this offseason. He is in by far the best shape since we’ve had him.”

So that rumor was bullshit.

On mock drafts that have the Raiders picking Arkansas running back Darren McFadden at No. 4: “He is a phenomenal player, but I don’t really think running back is a need for us.”

On whether Kiffin will have an impact on who the Raiders draft: “I hope so. I wouldn’t expect it to be any different than last year.”

He doesnt want Mcfadden so this will give us a good idea if Al is letting Kiff do what he wants to do. Kiff wants a lineman and I wont be suprised if he goes with his own boy from SC, Ellis.
 

Tony

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^BS... you can't speak for every coach. Some coaches will keep it real and let folks know. Depends on the coach.... look at Mike Nolan and Alex Smith. Miss me with that bs man.
 

Chree

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LOL

i dont think a normal qb/coach relationship is like alex smith and nolan last year

miss me with that jibberish....
 
Jun 1, 2002
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J. Long vs. Clady
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Second in a series regarding players the Raiders are evaluating as the NFL draft approaches April 26-27. The Raiders currently hold the No. 4 pick in the first round.

So Lane Kiffin keeps his trap shut for the better part of the last three months and then blabs to reporters that the Raiders are probably going to take a defensive lineman with the fourth overall selection in the NFL draft on April 26.

This is the same Kiffin who at last year’s owners meetings, claimed he’d never had a conversation with Randy Moss about a trade and said, “I think he’ll be on our team. I really do.”

Kiffin later admitted Moss told him in their first conversation he had no intention of playing for the Raiders and wanted a trade.

So while Kiffin gets points for being candid about his rocky offseason in the aftermath of a 4-12 season, anything he says about personnel is to be viewed with skepticism, and that’s exactly how it should be. Mixed signals and misdirection has long been a part of the draft process.

Besides, as Kiffin made clear Monday, coaches will have input but Al Davis, as always, will make the call. Davis has made three attempts at locating a left tackle in the draft since 1998, and none of them ended up at the position.

Mo Collins (1998) moved inside and became a decent power-blocking guard, Matt Stinchcomb (1999) came in with a bum shoulder and couldn’t hold a starting position at guard, tackle or center, and Robert Gallery started at both tackle spots but was dubbed a “square peg in a round hole” by line coach Tom Cable and is now the left guard.

If Davis wants to try again, Michigan’s Jake Long (6-foot-7, 313 pounds) and Boise State’s Ryan Clady (6-6, 309) are considered the top two tackles, in that order.

Long is the classic Big Ten power-blocking tackle. He gave up just one sack as a senior, to potential top-five pick Vernon Gholston of Ohio State. In his entire college career, Long gave up two sacks and committed two penalties, a hold as a redshirt freshman and a false start as a senior.

He is also an honest man.

“I’ll admit that I hold. I’ll get my hands inside and hide it that I’m holding,” Long said. “I try to hide it so that the refs can’t see it.”

Long hopes to have the same effect Cleveland’s Joe Thomas, the No. 3 overall pick last year, had as a rookie.

“He’s a great player and represented his school in the Big Ten very well. He had a great rookie season. I’m going to have to follow in his footsteps and represent for the Big Ten,” Long said. “He showed me and all the other rookies that you can come in and make a huge impact, have a great season. That’s encouraging to me and to other players I’m sure.”

Most people believe Long won’t last until No. 4, which means if the Raiders wanted a tackle, Clady would be the most likely pick. Considering Clady already has experience in a zone blocking system, he might be the better fit anyway.

“We were primarily a zone team, I’m kind of like a Denver Broncos type offensive lineman, we cut a lot and position block a lot,” Clady said.

Offensive linemen on roster: LT Kwame Harris, LG Robert Gallery, C John Wade, RG Cooper Carlisle, RT Cornell Green. Reserves_T Jonathan Palmer, T Mario Henderson, T Mark Wilson, G-T Paul McQuistan, C Jake Grove, C-G Chris Morris, LS Jon Condo, C Jesse Boone.

Kiffin on the offensive line: “There are still a couple of things to look at. We’re going to give Kwame Harris a shot at left tackle. He’s already been working with us the past two weeks at left tackle on the field. Gallery will still be at left guard. At center, adding John Wade from Tampa was very important to us. Four of the past five years he’s played 99 percent of the snaps. Very intelligent, very tough, kind of like Jeremy Newberry was for us at center as far as a leader. Hasn’t battled nearly as many injuries as Jeremy . . . Cooper Carlisle returns at right guard . . . he really has become the leader of the group as far as the most playing time there. At right tackle, we signed Cornell Green, who was the starter before he got hurt. And then Mario Henderson, who was drafted last year, through a trade in the third round, will get a shot to compete with Cornell.

The bottom line: The Raiders haven’t had much luck identifying tackles in the draft. Henry Lawrence, who succeeded Art Shell, was a first-round pick in 1974. John Clay, a first-rounder in 1987, was one of their great draft busts. Don Mosebar, a first-round pick in 1983, eventually became a center.

Cable is a coach in the mold of a Bobb McKittrick or Alex Gibbs, who favor linemen who can move and cut block. Both McKittrick and Gibbs rarely had premium draft picks, often using castoffs from other teams and later-round picks that fit their scheme.

As much as the Raiders future depends on protecting JaMarcus Russell, don’t expect the Raiders to use the No. 4 overall pick on a tackle.
 
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C. Long vs. Gholston
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 3rd, 2008 at 2:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Third in a series regarding players the Raiders are evaluating as the NFL draft approaches April 26-27. The Raiders currently hold the No. 4 pick in the first round.

So let’s assume for the moment that Lane Kiffin was dead serious when he told the media of his wish for a defensive lineman with the No. 4 pick.

Unless they were to move down, the Raiders would be assured of having a shot at one of the top four defensive linemen available. Two of those, defensive tackles Glenn Dorsey of LSU and Sedrick Ellis of USC, were discussed earlier.

The other two are Virginia’s Chris Long (6-foot-3, 267 pounds) and Ohio State’s Vernon Gholston (6-3, 266), who unlike Dorsey and Ellis, are potentially explosive edge players. Both player soften played as outside linebackers but with the versatility to put their hand on the ground.

Long, son of Raiders Hall of Fame defensive end Howie Long, would be the nostaligic choice. He had 14 sacks and 23 quarterback pressures as a senior and plays every down from snap to whistle with equal parts intensity and enthusiasm.

“I don’t think of myself as doing anything extraordinary with my effort,” Long said at the NFL scouting combine. “ I think that’s just the way football is supposed to be played, at a high speed. I’m not a guy who does things half-speed well. So it’s been pretty natural for me to go that fast. You want to jump off the screen when people watch film of you.”

There’s a theory that Al Davis won’t be able to pass up a chance on a legacy _ particularly one with such a glowing resume as Long. Assuming Long makes a visit to Oakland before the draft, it would be the first meeting since Long was a child.

“My earliest memory of Al Davis was ducking in the car when I came to visit my dad at training camp because there were no families allowed in,” Long said. “I remember meeting him when I was a kid, but I have not seen him since.”

If Long is regarded as a relatively “safe” pick because of his knowledge, intangibles and desire, Gholston may have the more intriguing top end.

Like Long, Gholston can play either end or outside linebacker, with his “Leo” position at Ohio State giving him an opportunity as a rush end. He had 14 sacks as a senior, 8.5 as a junior and his stock has been on the rise.

NFL.com analyst Pat Kirwan recently had Gholston as the No. 1 overall pick, going to the Miami Dolphins. In a copycat league, the New York Giants’ ability to pressure Tom Brady in the Super Bowl will only enhance the ability of the most explosive pass rusher in the draft.

“I know how big the defensive line is. If you got a front four that can controlcthe game, you’re destined for championships,” Gholston said. “That was proven, the way they (the Giants) were able to take advantage of their speed and get to the quarterback.”

If there is a player capable of duplicating the sort of rookie success as an outside rusher as Shawne Merriman did with San Diego and DeMarcus Ware did with the Cowboys, Gholston is it.

He also may be the most stunning physical specimen in the draft, with a 4.58 40-yard dash on his pro day on field turf and 37 reps of 225 pounds with the bench press.

Defensive linemen on roster: DE Derrick Burgess, DT Tommy Kelly, DT Terdell Sands, DE Jay Richardson, DT Gerard Warren, DT Josh Shaw, DT William Joseph, DE Kalimba Edwards.

Burgess had to close with a rush to get to eight sacks, getting a late start in training camp because of hernia surgery and missing time with a calf injury early in the year. His sack numbers have regressed from 16 to 11 to 8 the past three seasons. Kelly’s contract says big things are expected of him.

“He’ll have a chance to be a three-technique and not jump around to a lot of different positions,” Kiffin said. “He’s got a lot to prove with that contract.”

Sands signed a big deal last season to prevent him from going into free agency, and he was essentially a non-factor. The Raiders will look to get him back to the form he had in 2007 when he played well enough to merit the big deal. Warren played well in spurts, much as he has in Cleveland and Denver. Richardson, a college teammate of Gholston, was a pleasant surprise as a fifth-round draft pick. Edwards ideally will replace the departed Chris Clemons, who had eight sacks as a third-down pass rusher.
 

Tony

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Looks like we can't miss with that pick. I think Dorsey is going to the Rams..... so it'll come down to Ellis, Long, or Gholston. I think if we draft either one of them we'll be cool.