**Oakland Raiders 2010 offseason Thread**

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Raiders signed RB/KR Rock Cartwright to a one-year contract.
Cartwright, 30, averaged just 3.6 yards per carry in 16 games last season, starting two late in the year before losing his spot on the depth chart to the similarly pedestrian Quinton Ganther. Cartwright also lacks homerun speed in the kick return department. Ideally, he won't see the field much in Oakland.
 
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quinton ganther is a decent backup rb, not all rbs have "home-run" speed lol...if the titans backfield wasnt so crowded last year i would of hella wanted the titans to keep him, he isnt the first round pick mcfadden is or the highlite reel back that bush is, but

good special teams guy, high energy, good character.....players like that oakland needs
 
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Not really understanding the Cartwright signing....he's basically 3rd string RB at best and we have about 6 dudes that can return KO's and Punts....

Faneca won't even consider oakland i bet.....he's older and probably wants to get a ring before he retires and as happy as I am about the recent moves it's not like we're a year or two away.....
 
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found this story. I know it aint got shit to do with the offseason but its still raider related

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainmen...mentary_st.html?utm_source=bleacherreport.com

Ice Cube on His Documentary About How N.W.A. Gave the Oakland Raiders a New Image, Whether They Wanted It or Not

Ice Cube on His Documentary About How N.W.A. Gave the Oakland Raiders a New Image, Whether They Wanted It or Not


One of the films kicking off the Tribeca Film Festival is Ice Cube’s Straight Outta L.A., his made-for-ESPN documentary that details the cultural and economic impact his late-eighties gangsta-rap group N.W.A. had on one of professional sports' most iconic franchises: the Raiders. N.W.A. liked the Raiders’ silver-and-black uniforms and menacing pirate logo and appropriated the team’s ruthless on-field attitude as the group’s own image. At a time when hip-hop was enjoying its first global fan base, N.W.A. sported Raiders gear, on every album cover, promotional or video shoot, and, as a result, the team went from making several million dollars a year in merchandise sales to $3 billion a few years later. We spoke with Ice Cube recently about the Raiders' knowledge of N.W.A., how his group launched the era of music selling sports, and Snoop Dogg's pickup skills.

Do you realize that if a gangsta-rap group aligned themselves with an NFL team in this day and age, [league commissioner Roger] Goodell would have a conniption fit.
I’m pretty sure. I don’t know what he could do about it, but I’m pretty sure that it wouldn’t be as favorable as it was back then. I don’t even know if it was favorable back then, it was just something that took a life of its own.

One of the powerful parts of the film is seeing how much the NFL has changed since the eighties.
The Raiders moving to L.A. and us taking on their shield — we had the same image as they had, the NFL and hip-hop. To me, we ushered in this whole new "you can be a year-round fan, you can have all this merch.” But with rap music — not just N.W.A. — but rap music in general, seeing these artists wearing these team logos all the time started bringing a synergy and energy about having to rep your city, your team, everywhere and all the time. Music and sports merged. That’s why the Jordan brand took off — not just because he was hot on the court, but because he was hot on the street.

The economic impact that you had is impressive.
To me, that’s the underlying story. Sports without music, it's nothing but a game. Music adds the emotion. It galvanizes this whole feeling of what your team is doing. Music enhances all that; it plays a complementary role in making sports what they are. Without this connection, I think that sports is still on the outside looking in. Music brings it home for a lot of people.

The film shows a lot of outrage against N.W.A. Did you get a sense that the Raiders organization was turning a blind eye?
I never heard them discouraging us in the media or anywhere. From what I hear, they gave us gear. When they saw their merchandise go to No. 1, they let the wheels turn and stepped back and said, “Wait, what’s going on?”

Al Davis seemed like a tough interview.
Nah. He was cool. I was happy I was getting the interview and happy that I got to ask these questions. There’s stuff that couldn’t make it in the film, where I ask him about the colors, or people saying that he’s losing his step as the owner. After this comes out, I’m going to post the entire interview on my website. It lasts 60 to 90 minutes.

Nowadays it’s pretty common to see musicians being friendly with pro athletes. Did you hang out with the Raiders?
It was totally separate. They had no idea what we were doing. I don’t know how much anyone in the room cared. It was just something that worked. I’m a football freak, so I was happy to wear it. But it just blended with the rest of the guys [in N.W.A.]. You know, “it looks right, it’s the shit. The team has the same attitude as we got.”

You talk with Snoop Dogg in the film and he seems to love the game as much as you do. Now, if you’re playing pickup, do you pick him first?
Depends on what we’re playing. If we’re playing basketball, then yes.

Football?
I haven’t seen him play, but I’m sure he can play. He played quarterback in high school, so I’d probably pick him first. I’ve seen him play basketball and he has one of those wirey frames. Sharp elbows.
 
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Monte Poole: Raiders owner Al Davis finally sees light, hitches wagon with Tom Cable, not JaMarcus Russell
By Monte Poole
Oakland Tribune columnist

In the abstract power struggle between embattled Raiders coach Tom Cable and beleaguered franchise quarterback JaMarcus Russell, we have a winner.

It's Cable. Not because he was so impressive but because he was more committed.

He survived multiple allegations of bullying and owns the worst overall record of any coach ever retained by Al Davis for a new season. Yet Cable never stopped working. He's still around because he has done more to impress the boss — fairly easy given that his "competition," Russell, continues to struggle with personal demons.

But there's another factor. Though Davis is as willful and stubborn as ever, he continues to learn. And his latest lesson came from Russell.

In 2007, with the Raiders coming off their worst season in 44 years under Davis, the boss vowed to rebuild. Glimpsing Russell's skills and physical attributes, Al perceived the LSU star as his ticket to multiple Super Bowls. It was a matter of matching him with the right coach, a young coach who knew quarterbacks.

Davis hired Lane Kiffin, who along with several others in the building were unimpressed with Russell's intangibles. Al didn't budge. When Kiffin tried to sell his boss on wideout Calvin Johnson, Al took JaMarcus. Davis believed what he believed. He was evaluating players before Kiffin was born. Al went with his gut, trusted only himself.

Then 77, Davis was convinced he finally had found the coach and QB who could deliver
a few thrills to the aging owner who spends every waking hour yearning for two more Super Bowl championships.

And Russell turns out to be everything Kiffin had warned about. JaMarcus is soft and spongy and lazy and ambivalent about being a leader. More than a year after Davis fired Kiffin and gave Russell a vote of confidence, JaMarcus was being outplayed by backups Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye.

How could such profound disappointment not puncture the spirit of even the hardiest octogenarian?

Being burned by JaMarcus sent a strong message to Al from Al, that he was wrong and might gain by listening to those on his payroll.

The popular belief, that Al never changes, never was accurate. After making a habit of promoting assistants to head coach, Davis in 1988 lured Mike Shanahan from Denver. Davis hired Jon Gruden a decade later, even though Al didn't share Jon's affinity for the West Coast offense. When Gruden sought permission in 1999 to hire Rich Gannon, a journeyman with an average arm but solid intangibles, Al signed off on the move.

There was, of course, the usual caveat: Just win.

So it's not that Davis never changes. It's that he has to be gently nudged toward other viewpoints and he has to very clearly see the need to listen.

After seven years on the skids, after the Kiffin fiasco followed the Art Shell disaster, after it was apparent his trust in Russell had been misplaced, Davis very clearly saw the need for a new approach. He tried to impress himself and everybody around him, investing much of his money and reputation in JaMarcus, and it blew up in his face.

His team was losing, and nobody on the field could be blamed more than Russell.

For months we've seen indicators of an organization with fresh sets of eyes. There was the visionary hiring of Hue Jackson as offensive coordinator, a title Al usually avoids. There was Jackson's influence in the acquisition of journeyman QB Kyle Boller; the two worked together in Baltimore. There was the draft in which the Raiders operated as if Davis was, well, a consultant.

When Shanahan and former Raiders executive Bruce Allen called from Washington offering Jason Campbell, Davis suppressed his vanity and authorized the deal. If it means releasing Russell, so be it.

Who can blame Al for not wanting to be remembered as the legend who cast his lot with JaMarcus Russell?

Yet the old, recalcitrant Al likely would have chosen Russell over Cable. He would have fired Cable after the season, even if no replacement had been identified. The accusations of domestic violence and the claims of assault by assistant coach Randy Hanson would have teed up the coach, and his 9-19 record would have finished him off.

But Davis stayed with the man who has given more to the franchise. He stayed with Cable, though Jackson provides insurance.

That Al kept his ego out of the equation has to be most welcome news for the long-suffering Raiders and their demoralized fans.
 

Meta4iCAL

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Monte Poole: Raiders owner Al Davis finally sees light, hitches wagon with Tom Cable, not JaMarcus Russell
By Monte Poole
Oakland Tribune columnist

In the abstract power struggle between embattled Raiders coach Tom Cable and beleaguered franchise quarterback JaMarcus Russell, we have a winner.

It's Cable. Not because he was so impressive but because he was more committed.

He survived multiple allegations of bullying and owns the worst overall record of any coach ever retained by Al Davis for a new season. Yet Cable never stopped working. He's still around because he has done more to impress the boss — fairly easy given that his "competition," Russell, continues to struggle with personal demons.

But there's another factor. Though Davis is as willful and stubborn as ever, he continues to learn. And his latest lesson came from Russell.

In 2007, with the Raiders coming off their worst season in 44 years under Davis, the boss vowed to rebuild. Glimpsing Russell's skills and physical attributes, Al perceived the LSU star as his ticket to multiple Super Bowls. It was a matter of matching him with the right coach, a young coach who knew quarterbacks.

Davis hired Lane Kiffin, who along with several others in the building were unimpressed with Russell's intangibles. Al didn't budge. When Kiffin tried to sell his boss on wideout Calvin Johnson, Al took JaMarcus. Davis believed what he believed. He was evaluating players before Kiffin was born. Al went with his gut, trusted only himself.

Then 77, Davis was convinced he finally had found the coach and QB who could deliver
a few thrills to the aging owner who spends every waking hour yearning for two more Super Bowl championships.

And Russell turns out to be everything Kiffin had warned about. JaMarcus is soft and spongy and lazy and ambivalent about being a leader. More than a year after Davis fired Kiffin and gave Russell a vote of confidence, JaMarcus was being outplayed by backups Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye.

How could such profound disappointment not puncture the spirit of even the hardiest octogenarian?

Being burned by JaMarcus sent a strong message to Al from Al, that he was wrong and might gain by listening to those on his payroll.

The popular belief, that Al never changes, never was accurate. After making a habit of promoting assistants to head coach, Davis in 1988 lured Mike Shanahan from Denver. Davis hired Jon Gruden a decade later, even though Al didn't share Jon's affinity for the West Coast offense. When Gruden sought permission in 1999 to hire Rich Gannon, a journeyman with an average arm but solid intangibles, Al signed off on the move.

There was, of course, the usual caveat: Just win.

So it's not that Davis never changes. It's that he has to be gently nudged toward other viewpoints and he has to very clearly see the need to listen.

After seven years on the skids, after the Kiffin fiasco followed the Art Shell disaster, after it was apparent his trust in Russell had been misplaced, Davis very clearly saw the need for a new approach. He tried to impress himself and everybody around him, investing much of his money and reputation in JaMarcus, and it blew up in his face.

His team was losing, and nobody on the field could be blamed more than Russell.

For months we've seen indicators of an organization with fresh sets of eyes. There was the visionary hiring of Hue Jackson as offensive coordinator, a title Al usually avoids. There was Jackson's influence in the acquisition of journeyman QB Kyle Boller; the two worked together in Baltimore. There was the draft in which the Raiders operated as if Davis was, well, a consultant.

When Shanahan and former Raiders executive Bruce Allen called from Washington offering Jason Campbell, Davis suppressed his vanity and authorized the deal. If it means releasing Russell, so be it.

Who can blame Al for not wanting to be remembered as the legend who cast his lot with JaMarcus Russell?

Yet the old, recalcitrant Al likely would have chosen Russell over Cable. He would have fired Cable after the season, even if no replacement had been identified. The accusations of domestic violence and the claims of assault by assistant coach Randy Hanson would have teed up the coach, and his 9-19 record would have finished him off.

But Davis stayed with the man who has given more to the franchise. He stayed with Cable, though Jackson provides insurance.

That Al kept his ego out of the equation has to be most welcome news for the long-suffering Raiders and their demoralized fans.
everyone (including myself) always said the Raiders will never be able to win with Al Davis running the team... I think this past draft proved that theory wrong

obviously a good draft doesn't automatically = wins... but the draft showed Al CAN change, the team is taking steps in the right direction

I give Cable all the credit in the world... some how, some way... he got through to old Al... I'm happy more than ever that we kept him on as head coach
 
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coppin season tickets tomorow, went to every game last year but I dont wanna pay through the roof for playoff tickets. I came up at the Casino tonight so its a rap. Ima get tickets to the game in SF tom too cuz I know there gonna go through the roof later on. Ima get shitty ass seats and just move down every game like I did last year cuz no one goes and the ushers dont give a fuck.
 
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I think Al Davis passed out during the draft, and everyone else took care of business lol Just Kidding! Yall had a good draft day. I hope we will still beat yall this season, though.

And it's a damn shame y'all lost a loyal ass fan, in Tony. He is one of the best fans that I know of. Sorry y'all lost him. Losing him would be like losing JaMarcus Russell...oh wait...n/m :cheeky:
 

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I could still change my mind before the pre-season starts "If I want to".... but more than likely I won't. Gotta go with the Bears and Bills now. I gotta favor teams that are willing to score points to win games.
 

Meta4iCAL

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don't change your mind... you can't come back to the nation Tony

and lol... Bills and Bears willing to score points... yeah

maybe Da Bears if Cutler doesn't turn into an interception machine again

the Bills are gonna be an offensive power house with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB... lmao...