(now) Bush: No Proof of Saddam Role in 9-11

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Mcleanhatch said:
those above "claims" were made by the media and other pundits and not the administration.

2. Salman Pak - Iraq's Own Terrorist Training Camp - Salman Pak - Iraq's Own Terrorist Training Camp. ... Salman Pak - Iraq‘s own terrorist training camp. Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. ...
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/826.html

3. Deroy Murdock on Salman Pak on National Review Online - ... Salman Pak, a training camp on the Tigris River some 15 miles southeast of Iraq's capital, could clarify this question. ... Khodada worked at Salman Pak. ...
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040303.asp
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4. NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story - With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff. For the story behind the story... Tuesday, Aug. 13, 2002 10:55 am EDT. Salman Pak: Iraq's Smoking Gun Link to 9/11? ...
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/8/13/95502

Cheney recently stated that he doens't know if there was an al Queda connection Saddam's iraq.

and then you bring this bullshit NEWSMAX SHIT, that alones tells you something about there bullshit journalism.
 
May 8, 2002
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nefar559 said:
and then you bring this bullshit NEWSMAX SHIT, that alones tells you something about there bullshit journalism.
AS YOU WELL KNOW I POSTED 4 ARTICLES FROM FOUR DIFFERENT SOURCES AND ONLY ONE OF THEM WAS FROM NEWSMAX. TWO OF THE OTHERS ARE NATIONAL REVIEW AND PBS. I WOULDNT CALL THOSE MEDIA OUTLETS "BULLSHIT JOURNALISM"

nefar559 said:
Cheney recently stated that he doens't know if there was an al Queda connection Saddam's iraq.
AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT THEY HAVE NO PROOF THAT SADAM/IRAQ HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH 9-11 SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS PLENTY OF INFORMATION THAT IRAQ/SADAM HAS CONNECTIONS WITH AL-QAEDA, AND THAT IS WHAT CHAINY IS SAYING
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
AS YOU WELL KNOW I POSTED 4 ARTICLES FROM FOUR DIFFERENT SOURCES AND ONLY ONE OF THEM WAS FROM NEWSMAX. TWO OF THE OTHERS ARE NATIONAL REVIEW AND PBS. I WOULDNT CALL THOSE MEDIA OUTLETS "BULLSHIT JOURNALISM"

none of them sources prove anything what you said.

one was a from a forum, which is some unknown fools ideas.
the other two where ultra - conservative

and the pbs article stated this about Pak and Al QUeda"

"Nobody came and told us, "This is Al Qaeda people," but I know there were some Saudis, there were some Afghanis. There were some other people from other countries getting trained. They didn't tell us they were part of Al Qaeda; there's no such thing. ... In this camp, we know that those are Saudis, or Arabs are getting trained. Nobody will talk about Al Qaeda or any other organization."


Mcleanhatch said:

AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT THEY HAVE NO PROOF THAT SADAM/IRAQ HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH 9-11 SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS PLENTY OF INFORMATION THAT IRAQ/SADAM HAS CONNECTIONS WITH AL-QAEDA, AND THAT IS WHAT CHAINY IS SAYING
damn you have a hard time comprehending, THERE IS NO LINK THUS FAR!!! CHENEY DOESNT KNOW!!!! the only ones linking the two is shit like newsmax
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
IF THE SOCIALIST PARTY GIVES YOU A SCHOLARSHIP TO GO TO FSU THIS YEAR AND 20 YEARS FROM NOW YOU BECOME A HARD-CORE CAPITALIST, DO THEY SUPPORT CAPITALISM???????
i never said US was supporting Osama, but US did at one time, (another tip Sherlock)

US supports Burtal dicktatorshits, and right wing guerillas with horriable human rights records, does US support terrorism? yes!!!!!!!!!!
 
May 8, 2002
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nefar559 said:
and the pbs article stated this about Pak and Al QUeda"

"Nobody came and told us, "This is Al Qaeda people," but I know there were some Saudis, there were some Afghanis. There were some other people from other countries getting trained. They didn't tell us they were part of Al Qaeda; there's no such thing. ... In this camp, we know that those are Saudis, or Arabs are getting trained. Nobody will talk about Al Qaeda or any other organization."
IT ALSO SAID THIS
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.html

And they trained people to hijack airplanes?

Yes.


For what purpose?

... It has been said openly in the media and even to us, from the highest command, that the purpose of establishing Saddam's fighters is to attack American targets and American interests. This is known. There's no doubt about it.

All this training is directed towards attacking American targets, and American interests. The training does not only include hijacking of planes and sabotage. ... Some other people were trained to do parachuting. Some other areas were training on how to penetrate enemy lines and get information from behind enemy lines. But it's all for the general concept of hitting and attacking American targets and American interests.

That was your reaction on September 11 -- that some of these people might be involved?


I assure you, this operation was conducted by people who were trained by Saddam. And I'm going to keep assuring the world this is what happened.

And the camp has a 707 that they train on?

Yes, there's a real whole 707 plane, a whole real plane, standing in the middle of the training area in this camp.


And they train people on how to get access to the cabin, to the crew?

Yes.


And how to take over the plane using weapons? How?

They will get trained on how to get weapons inside the plane. If there is a security weakness that they know of, they will prefer to get weapons.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
IT ALSO SAID THIS
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.html

And they trained people to hijack airplanes?

Yes.


For what purpose?

... It has been said openly in the media and even to us, from the highest command, that the purpose of establishing Saddam's fighters is to attack American targets and American interests. This is known. There's no doubt about it.

All this training is directed towards attacking American targets, and American interests. The training does not only include hijacking of planes and sabotage. ... Some other people were trained to do parachuting. Some other areas were training on how to penetrate enemy lines and get information from behind enemy lines. But it's all for the general concept of hitting and attacking American targets and American interests.

That was your reaction on September 11 -- that some of these people might be involved?


I assure you, this operation was conducted by people who were trained by Saddam. And I'm going to keep assuring the world this is what happened.

And the camp has a 707 that they train on?

Yes, there's a real whole 707 plane, a whole real plane, standing in the middle of the training area in this camp.


And they train people on how to get access to the cabin, to the crew?

Yes.


And how to take over the plane using weapons? How?

They will get trained on how to get weapons inside the plane. If there is a security weakness that they know of, they will prefer to get weapons.
hey SHerLock!
that doesnt PROVE A DAMN THING!!!
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
those above "claims" were made by the media and other pundits and not the administration.

1. PBS - frontline: gunning for saddam: interviews: sabah khodada - ... He worked at what he describes as a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak (see Khodada's hand-drawn map of the camp), an area south of Baghdad. ...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.html

2. Salman Pak - Iraq's Own Terrorist Training Camp - Salman Pak - Iraq's Own Terrorist Training Camp. ... Salman Pak - Iraq‘s own terrorist training camp. Two Iraqi Military defectors, an unnamed former Lt. ...
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/826.html

3. Deroy Murdock on Salman Pak on National Review Online - ... Salman Pak, a training camp on the Tigris River some 15 miles southeast of Iraq's capital, could clarify this question. ... Khodada worked at Salman Pak. ...
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040303.asp
[More results from www.nationalreview.com]

4. NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story - With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff. For the story behind the story... Tuesday, Aug. 13, 2002 10:55 am EDT. Salman Pak: Iraq's Smoking Gun Link to 9/11? ...
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2002/8/13/95502
4got about this thread, and I have to respond to this.
Peep this man:

Bush's radio address to the nation on February 8, 2002


One of the greatest dangers we face is that weapons of mass destruction might be passed to terrorists who would not hesitate to use those weapons. Saddam Hussein has longstanding, direct and continuing ties to terrorist networks. Senior members of Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has sent bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training. And an al Qaeda operative was sent to Iraq several times in the late 1990s for help in acquiring poisons and gases.

We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner. This network runs a poison and explosive training camp in northeast Iraq, and many of its leaders are known to be in Baghdad.
 
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miggidy said:
4got about this thread, and I have to respond to this.
Peep this man:

Bush's radio address to the nation on February 8, 2002


One of the greatest dangers we face is that weapons of mass destruction might be passed to terrorists who would not hesitate to use those weapons. Saddam Hussein has longstanding, direct and continuing ties to terrorist networks. Senior members of Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has sent bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training. And an al Qaeda operative was sent to Iraq several times in the late 1990s for help in acquiring poisons and gases.

We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner. This network runs a poison and explosive training camp in northeast Iraq, and many of its leaders are known to be in Baghdad.

1. THAT IS VERY TRUE

2. I DIDNT SEE ANYTHING AT ALL IN THAT PIECE THAT CONNECTED SADAM TO 9-11
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
1. THAT IS VERY TRUE

2. I DIDNT SEE ANYTHING AT ALL IN THAT PIECE THAT CONNECTED SADAM TO 9-11
Your concsious says no
but your subconcsious yes.

Might not be your case but it is for 70% of Americans.
You might say blame the media, but I say Bush knew exactly what he was doing....
 
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miggidy said:
Your concsious says no
but your subconcsious yes.

Might not be your case but it is for 70% of Americans.
You might say blame the media, but I say Bush knew exactly what he was doing....
there is alote of information out there that shows Iraqi ties to Al-Qaeda, even the 1st WTC bombing in 1993.

but there is non yet that shows Iraq connected to 9-11. i am not saying that there isnt, i think that there is a good chance they might be, just that there is no proof yet. i/we know that Osama is responsible for 9-11, but i do think (although america has no proof) that he needed some sort of state sponsored help to pull something that big off
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
i/we know that Osama is responsible for 9-11, but i do think (although america has no proof) that he needed some sort of state sponsored help to pull something that big off

thats what the iraqi exile said, the one of two guys i believe that bush was listening too when he made his case for war on iraq.

same time, CIA couldn't prove this, and said Saddam wasnt a threat to US.