i think this is why nortenos are dissapearing in north cali....acting all superior, almost snobbish to anyone who isnt from northern cali but claiming norte, all the while the southerners are gaining ground in nor cal and every damn state...its like saying, we need more nortenos, but you cant be one cuz youre not from north cali...keep that mind set, and nortenos will eventually cease to exist...i stay in monterey county and back in 2000, there were northerners everywhere...now, i could go months without seeing one on the streets, but theres surenos all over the towns, kickin it and cruisin, and most of them look like theyre from L.A. ...ive been to over half the states in teh nation, and ive seen or met northerners from every western state, kansas, iowa, nebraska, wisconsin, florida, georgia, illinois, michigan, ohio, indiana texas, missouri and oklahoma...seems like theres more non-cali nortenos than cali ones...