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Eastbaytycoon I understand not being patient, but no one's been patient. for 5 years. A different OC EVERY YEAR is insane!!! how is anyone, especially a rookie qb, gonna flourish in that? Then he spends a whole year hurt, gets his job taken from him by 2 SCRUB ass qb's, and is just expected to be Brett Favre because of how much he gets paid and his draft position.
Even though it was the same play each time, we saw a glimpse of what Smith can do in the Texans game. Down 21-0, they barely lost 24-21 after 3 straight tds to Vernon Davis, in his first half of football in over a year and a half. Yes he threw a pick at the end of the game but we wouldnt have even been that close to pulling it off without him.
This really is the Niners defining year. In a weak division with a very promising offense, and a full offseason to get some continuity, the defense will continue to smack em in the mouth and I think the Niners make the playoffs.
Each of the last 2 seasons we had guys starting for us that would be 3rd stringers in any other season!!! then halfway thru the season the Niners scrap everything they're been doing, and start over...midseason!!! and its all alex smiths fault??? what the fuck did he do so bad last year that he doesnt deserve to redeem himself fully this year?
Even though it was the same play each time, we saw a glimpse of what Smith can do in the Texans game. Down 21-0, they barely lost 24-21 after 3 straight tds to Vernon Davis, in his first half of football in over a year and a half. Yes he threw a pick at the end of the game but we wouldnt have even been that close to pulling it off without him.
This really is the Niners defining year. In a weak division with a very promising offense, and a full offseason to get some continuity, the defense will continue to smack em in the mouth and I think the Niners make the playoffs.
Each of the last 2 seasons we had guys starting for us that would be 3rd stringers in any other season!!! then halfway thru the season the Niners scrap everything they're been doing, and start over...midseason!!! and its all alex smiths fault??? what the fuck did he do so bad last year that he doesnt deserve to redeem himself fully this year?
from Matt Maiocco's "Instant 49ers" blog, where he answers some questions. He actually says Nate Davis is a long way from seeing any time in a regular season game.
Does Singletary like Tebow enough to want to draft him?
Alex Smith is the starting quarterback, and the 49ers have earmarked $3 million annually over the next two seasons for David Carr. But do the 49ers have any draft needs at the most important position?
It's wide open. There are three quarterbacks on the roster. The 49ers will definitely add a quarterback for the offseason and training camp. But it's only a guess whether the 49ers will select a quarterback in the draft - early, middle or late rounds - or just wait to sign an undrafted free agent to be a camp arm.
I solicited questions on Twitter earlier today. Part 1 focuses on quarterbacks and cornerbacks:
Q: please tell me the rumor that the niners want Tebow is just that a rumor? (Yannick1919)
MM: I have not seen or heard any rumors about the 49ers drafting Tim Tebow. I have read speculation, though. One team source told me coach Mike Singletary really likes Tebow. That should not come as a surprise to anyone. Of course, he's going to like him. But does he like him enough to push director of player personnel Trent Baalke to select him? I don't see any football logic in selecting a quarterback who - after four years of college - is just now learning how to throw the football properly.
(It should be noted: I don't think there's any chance the 49ers would take Tebow in the first round. Where Singletary's affinity for Tebow could make a difference is in the second round, at No. 49 overall.)
Q: Alex Smith may be OK but he ain't great. Can u see Clausen in scarlet and gold? (Redsmally)
MM: This is one of those questions I'm going to have to answer with another question. If the 49ers believe Jimmy Clausen is clearly going to be a better quarterback than Alex Smith, then - yes - they should take Clausen if he remains unclaimed after the first 12 picks in the draft. As much as the 49ers might believe they're set up to win a lot of games in 2010, they must not lose sight of the big picture.
Q: if the Alex Smith plan fails, what is the next step? Carr isn't the answer, would we need to rebuild everything again? (pierre82)
MM: Smith is signed through this season. So at some point the 49ers will make a decision whether to attempt to re-sign him or let him walk. David Carr is signed for this year and next. Nate Davis still has a long way to go to get onto the field for a regular-season game. If Smith falls on his face this season, Carr will get a chance. If at the end of the season the 49ers believe neither one is worth keeping around, they'll have to look to sign a stop-gap veteran and draft a quarterback high in the 2011 draft.
Q: w/ the possibility Berry drops to 7 do you see the 9ers trading up for a special talent? Will they look 4 bpa or biggest need? (global_9erfan)
MM: Probably not. I think the only trade-up possibility that makes sense is for the 49ers to go get an offensive tackle. While the 49ers would love to have Eric Berry, if they were able to get him, it would open up an interesting dilemma. I don't think there's a team in the league that has made large investments in two safeties. Therefore, if the 49ers were to draft a true safety in the first round, I don't see the logic in retaining Dashon Goldson with a sizable contract extension. Goldson is entering the final year of his contract.
Q: If Mays falls to first few picks of second round and Niners got Haden & Davis is first do you think they'd trade up to get him? (AFNinerFan)
MM: That's a possibility. I don't think that would've happened with general manager Scot McCloughan. I'm told he was not high on Mays because he never felt Mays exhibited cover skills at USC. But it's entirely possible the people who now run the show for the 49ers have a higher opinion of Mays.
Q: If we take Haden at 13 who are our starting corners? (Kurtz49)
MM: I'd think they'd give the appearance that Haden is competing for a starting job, but it would not take Haden long to find his way into the starting role. If the 49ers were to select Haden, it would make Nate Clements and his $6 million salary expendable. I'd think the starters would be Haden and Shawntae Spencer, with Tarell Brown as the nickel back.
Q: Is anything happening w/ Dre Bly? (svcomremoose)
MM: No. Depending on what the 49ers do in the draft, they might revisit the possibility of signing him, though.
Q: Any word on Walt Harris? Is he coming back with 49ers? (tre_faaborg)
MM: He continues to rehab from surgery last offseason to repair a torn ACL. There are injury/age concerns with Harris. After the draft, the 49ers will evaluate what they need at the cornerback position.
Q: Why is Patrick Robinson underrated? what did you hear/see? (wokingfool)
MM: Yesterday I wrote that Florida State cornerback Patrick Robinson, a potential first-round draft pick, was underrated. Robinson does not get a whole lot of media attention because he is very uncomfortable in interview settings. As I wrote yesterday in the comments section, Robinson speaks with a stutter. When he met with teams and the media at the combine, he was nervous and his stutter got worse. Surely, the team that selects him will try to help as much as they can. I just hope it doesn't slide him down on draft boards, because I'm told his game film is outstanding.
Q: One aspect of Scot McCloughan's departure I've haven't heard discussed is how it affects draft day trades. Does the loss of McCloughan and the connections he has made over the last five years as 49ers GM hurt their ability to work the phones and get a deal done? (kdbenson)
MM: It might actually help the 49ers made more trades. McCloughan did not like to over-think the draft. If there was a player he liked on the board at a certain spot in the draft, the 49ers were going to take him. Last year, the club saw several of the players they really liked in the second round get chosen. The 49ers would have selected offensive lineman Max Unger, but the Panthers offered a trade. That's how the 49ers got their second first-round pick for this year. If the 49ers have more options to trade back this season, they might be more inclined to accept an offer.
Does Singletary like Tebow enough to want to draft him?
Alex Smith is the starting quarterback, and the 49ers have earmarked $3 million annually over the next two seasons for David Carr. But do the 49ers have any draft needs at the most important position?
It's wide open. There are three quarterbacks on the roster. The 49ers will definitely add a quarterback for the offseason and training camp. But it's only a guess whether the 49ers will select a quarterback in the draft - early, middle or late rounds - or just wait to sign an undrafted free agent to be a camp arm.
I solicited questions on Twitter earlier today. Part 1 focuses on quarterbacks and cornerbacks:
Q: please tell me the rumor that the niners want Tebow is just that a rumor? (Yannick1919)
MM: I have not seen or heard any rumors about the 49ers drafting Tim Tebow. I have read speculation, though. One team source told me coach Mike Singletary really likes Tebow. That should not come as a surprise to anyone. Of course, he's going to like him. But does he like him enough to push director of player personnel Trent Baalke to select him? I don't see any football logic in selecting a quarterback who - after four years of college - is just now learning how to throw the football properly.
(It should be noted: I don't think there's any chance the 49ers would take Tebow in the first round. Where Singletary's affinity for Tebow could make a difference is in the second round, at No. 49 overall.)
Q: Alex Smith may be OK but he ain't great. Can u see Clausen in scarlet and gold? (Redsmally)
MM: This is one of those questions I'm going to have to answer with another question. If the 49ers believe Jimmy Clausen is clearly going to be a better quarterback than Alex Smith, then - yes - they should take Clausen if he remains unclaimed after the first 12 picks in the draft. As much as the 49ers might believe they're set up to win a lot of games in 2010, they must not lose sight of the big picture.
Q: if the Alex Smith plan fails, what is the next step? Carr isn't the answer, would we need to rebuild everything again? (pierre82)
MM: Smith is signed through this season. So at some point the 49ers will make a decision whether to attempt to re-sign him or let him walk. David Carr is signed for this year and next. Nate Davis still has a long way to go to get onto the field for a regular-season game. If Smith falls on his face this season, Carr will get a chance. If at the end of the season the 49ers believe neither one is worth keeping around, they'll have to look to sign a stop-gap veteran and draft a quarterback high in the 2011 draft.
Q: w/ the possibility Berry drops to 7 do you see the 9ers trading up for a special talent? Will they look 4 bpa or biggest need? (global_9erfan)
MM: Probably not. I think the only trade-up possibility that makes sense is for the 49ers to go get an offensive tackle. While the 49ers would love to have Eric Berry, if they were able to get him, it would open up an interesting dilemma. I don't think there's a team in the league that has made large investments in two safeties. Therefore, if the 49ers were to draft a true safety in the first round, I don't see the logic in retaining Dashon Goldson with a sizable contract extension. Goldson is entering the final year of his contract.
Q: If Mays falls to first few picks of second round and Niners got Haden & Davis is first do you think they'd trade up to get him? (AFNinerFan)
MM: That's a possibility. I don't think that would've happened with general manager Scot McCloughan. I'm told he was not high on Mays because he never felt Mays exhibited cover skills at USC. But it's entirely possible the people who now run the show for the 49ers have a higher opinion of Mays.
Q: If we take Haden at 13 who are our starting corners? (Kurtz49)
MM: I'd think they'd give the appearance that Haden is competing for a starting job, but it would not take Haden long to find his way into the starting role. If the 49ers were to select Haden, it would make Nate Clements and his $6 million salary expendable. I'd think the starters would be Haden and Shawntae Spencer, with Tarell Brown as the nickel back.
Q: Is anything happening w/ Dre Bly? (svcomremoose)
MM: No. Depending on what the 49ers do in the draft, they might revisit the possibility of signing him, though.
Q: Any word on Walt Harris? Is he coming back with 49ers? (tre_faaborg)
MM: He continues to rehab from surgery last offseason to repair a torn ACL. There are injury/age concerns with Harris. After the draft, the 49ers will evaluate what they need at the cornerback position.
Q: Why is Patrick Robinson underrated? what did you hear/see? (wokingfool)
MM: Yesterday I wrote that Florida State cornerback Patrick Robinson, a potential first-round draft pick, was underrated. Robinson does not get a whole lot of media attention because he is very uncomfortable in interview settings. As I wrote yesterday in the comments section, Robinson speaks with a stutter. When he met with teams and the media at the combine, he was nervous and his stutter got worse. Surely, the team that selects him will try to help as much as they can. I just hope it doesn't slide him down on draft boards, because I'm told his game film is outstanding.
Q: One aspect of Scot McCloughan's departure I've haven't heard discussed is how it affects draft day trades. Does the loss of McCloughan and the connections he has made over the last five years as 49ers GM hurt their ability to work the phones and get a deal done? (kdbenson)
MM: It might actually help the 49ers made more trades. McCloughan did not like to over-think the draft. If there was a player he liked on the board at a certain spot in the draft, the 49ers were going to take him. Last year, the club saw several of the players they really liked in the second round get chosen. The 49ers would have selected offensive lineman Max Unger, but the Panthers offered a trade. That's how the 49ers got their second first-round pick for this year. If the 49ers have more options to trade back this season, they might be more inclined to accept an offer.
I think everyone has already hit the major points about this but....Alex Smith has not had consistency which is the number 1 fact that alot of people fail to overlook. It has everything to do with his successes and failures, put any other QB in so many systems and almost all will fail.
David Carr is basically there to push Alex for a starting job because they've had similar careers where they are thrown in from day 1 and expected to win. He's been under Eli and has learned shit...he's not supposed to start but simply put some fire under Smith's ass. A QB is a big part of a team's success but you don't have to be Brett Favre to win a ring....the Ravens won with Trent Dilfer.
If you know your facts then state them...give me some numbers instead of just bashing because anyone can be a couch GM and point out mistakes on a young, rebuilding team.
David Carr is basically there to push Alex for a starting job because they've had similar careers where they are thrown in from day 1 and expected to win. He's been under Eli and has learned shit...he's not supposed to start but simply put some fire under Smith's ass. A QB is a big part of a team's success but you don't have to be Brett Favre to win a ring....the Ravens won with Trent Dilfer.
If you know your facts then state them...give me some numbers instead of just bashing because anyone can be a couch GM and point out mistakes on a young, rebuilding team.
EVERYBODY WITH THE DIFFERENT OFFENSIVE CORDINATOR TALK IS JUST MAKIN EXCUSES. EVERYBODY WITH THE WEAK LINE TALK IS MAKIN EXCUSES.
ALEX SMITH WONT BE THE FIRST OR LAST QB THATS HAD A DIFFERENT O CORDINATOR. OR A WEAK LINE
ROTHLISBERGER WON THE SUPERBOWL WITH A WEAK LINE. YOU CANT BLAME THE LINE EVERY PLAY.AS A PRO QB YOU GOTTA MAKE QUICK READS OR GET SACKED. I THINK ITS EITHER YOU GOT IT OR YOU DONT. SMITH JUST DONT GOT IT.
YOU GET THE CORDINATOR AND THE PLAY BOOK BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS. THIS THE NFL NOT FLAG FOOTBALL.PRACTICE AND PREPARE SO YOU CAN PLAY AT A HIGH LEVEL ESPECIALLY IF YOU UNDERACHIVED LAST SEASON. ITS RIDICULOUS THAT SANCHEZ IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON SHOWED SIGNS OF BEING BETTER THAN SMITH IN HIS 5TH SEASON.
ALEX SMITH WONT BE THE FIRST OR LAST QB THATS HAD A DIFFERENT O CORDINATOR. OR A WEAK LINE
ROTHLISBERGER WON THE SUPERBOWL WITH A WEAK LINE. YOU CANT BLAME THE LINE EVERY PLAY.AS A PRO QB YOU GOTTA MAKE QUICK READS OR GET SACKED. I THINK ITS EITHER YOU GOT IT OR YOU DONT. SMITH JUST DONT GOT IT.
YOU GET THE CORDINATOR AND THE PLAY BOOK BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS. THIS THE NFL NOT FLAG FOOTBALL.PRACTICE AND PREPARE SO YOU CAN PLAY AT A HIGH LEVEL ESPECIALLY IF YOU UNDERACHIVED LAST SEASON. ITS RIDICULOUS THAT SANCHEZ IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON SHOWED SIGNS OF BEING BETTER THAN SMITH IN HIS 5TH SEASON.
IN 08-09 WHEN THE STEELERS WON THE SUPERBOWL THEY WERE 23RD IN RUSHING.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/year/2008
IM NOT HATIN ON THE NINERS. I LIKE THE NINERS I JUS THINK T5HAT THEY JUST A QB AWAY FROM THE PLAYOFFS MAYBE SUPER BOWL AND THE GM AINT DOIN WHAT IT TAKES. ITS LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS SMITH IS BAD INCLUDING THE NINERS CUZ THEY CUT HIS SALARY
WHO KNOWS THO THEY MIGHT DRAFT A QB.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/year/2008
IM NOT HATIN ON THE NINERS. I LIKE THE NINERS I JUS THINK T5HAT THEY JUST A QB AWAY FROM THE PLAYOFFS MAYBE SUPER BOWL AND THE GM AINT DOIN WHAT IT TAKES. ITS LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS SMITH IS BAD INCLUDING THE NINERS CUZ THEY CUT HIS SALARY
WHO KNOWS THO THEY MIGHT DRAFT A QB.
Fordham QB John Skelton is reportedly "generating a lot of buzz in NFL circles" as his stock continues to rise.
Skelton (6'5/243) has drawn comparisons to Joe Flacco for his size and arm strength, though his accuracy, leadership and smarts fall short of the Ravens' QB. Making a bid to be one of the first five QBs drafted, Skelton has visited the Cardinals, 49ers, and Eagles. The Dolphins are also believed to be interested.
The 49ers are reportedly "very happy" with Josh Morgan as the starter opposite Michael Crabtree.
The coaching staff loves his blocking, and he's emerged as a leader among the team's wide receivers. If the Niners add a receiver in the draft, it will likely be one who can help out on returns, such as Cincinnati's Marty Gilyard.
Jason Hill is expected to face competition from Brandon Jones for the No. 3 receiver job this offseason.
The more talented Hill should have a decisive edge after bypassing Jones and Isaac Bruce on the depth chart last season. Jones has proven to be a liability on returns, so his roster spot will be in jeopardy if he doesn't outplay Hill in training camp.
Skelton (6'5/243) has drawn comparisons to Joe Flacco for his size and arm strength, though his accuracy, leadership and smarts fall short of the Ravens' QB. Making a bid to be one of the first five QBs drafted, Skelton has visited the Cardinals, 49ers, and Eagles. The Dolphins are also believed to be interested.
The 49ers are reportedly "very happy" with Josh Morgan as the starter opposite Michael Crabtree.
The coaching staff loves his blocking, and he's emerged as a leader among the team's wide receivers. If the Niners add a receiver in the draft, it will likely be one who can help out on returns, such as Cincinnati's Marty Gilyard.
Jason Hill is expected to face competition from Brandon Jones for the No. 3 receiver job this offseason.
The more talented Hill should have a decisive edge after bypassing Jones and Isaac Bruce on the depth chart last season. Jones has proven to be a liability on returns, so his roster spot will be in jeopardy if he doesn't outplay Hill in training camp.
