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Let's start with the obvious. San Francisco no longer can trade Michael Crabtree this season. Not even after it signs him, if it can.
The collective bargaining agreement clearly says if a player has not signed 30 days before the season -- which in this case would have been Aug. 14 -- his team is forbidden from trading him in that league year.
Also, if Crabtree is traded after March 5, 2010 -- the first date the 49ers can trade his rights to another team -- and he signs with another team, his contract would be a part of the 2010 rookie pool, and it would be up to the new team to squeeze in Crabtree's contract with those from the rest of the 2010 rookie class.
Now on to the less obvious but more compelling point. If Crabtree signs after this season with the 49ers or with another team that trades for his rights, he will be paid the minimum base salary for rookies -- $320,000 next season -- and have the bulk of his money paid in Not Likely To Be Earned incentives, which is the way teams guarantee most money to rookies these days. Those incentives won't be achieved, however, until the 2010 season has ended and won't be paid out until the next league year in 2011. Thus, Crabtree might have to wait until 2011 to cash in.
However, there is a chance there could be a work stoppage in 2011. So it also is possible -- although no one can say how likely -- that if Crabtree re-enters the NFL draft in 2010, he would not collect the bulk of the money on his first NFL contract until 2012. Signing with the 49ers now would land Crabtree an immediate bonus and allow him to trigger the Not Likely To Be Earned incentives by the end of the 2009 season, enabling him to be paid in 2010. This is why some pundits have predicted Crabtree will sign on or before Nov. 17, the last day he can sign to still play this season.
But these are all parts of the gamble each side is taking by not consummating a contract. The 49ers don't get their standout wide receiver, and the standout wide receiver doesn't get paid for 18 to 30 months.
thats from adam schefter yesterday
The collective bargaining agreement clearly says if a player has not signed 30 days before the season -- which in this case would have been Aug. 14 -- his team is forbidden from trading him in that league year.
Also, if Crabtree is traded after March 5, 2010 -- the first date the 49ers can trade his rights to another team -- and he signs with another team, his contract would be a part of the 2010 rookie pool, and it would be up to the new team to squeeze in Crabtree's contract with those from the rest of the 2010 rookie class.
Now on to the less obvious but more compelling point. If Crabtree signs after this season with the 49ers or with another team that trades for his rights, he will be paid the minimum base salary for rookies -- $320,000 next season -- and have the bulk of his money paid in Not Likely To Be Earned incentives, which is the way teams guarantee most money to rookies these days. Those incentives won't be achieved, however, until the 2010 season has ended and won't be paid out until the next league year in 2011. Thus, Crabtree might have to wait until 2011 to cash in.
However, there is a chance there could be a work stoppage in 2011. So it also is possible -- although no one can say how likely -- that if Crabtree re-enters the NFL draft in 2010, he would not collect the bulk of the money on his first NFL contract until 2012. Signing with the 49ers now would land Crabtree an immediate bonus and allow him to trigger the Not Likely To Be Earned incentives by the end of the 2009 season, enabling him to be paid in 2010. This is why some pundits have predicted Crabtree will sign on or before Nov. 17, the last day he can sign to still play this season.
But these are all parts of the gamble each side is taking by not consummating a contract. The 49ers don't get their standout wide receiver, and the standout wide receiver doesn't get paid for 18 to 30 months.
thats from adam schefter yesterday
Gore out 3 weeks: http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_13441676?source=rss
Saw early reports he was gonna be out a week or two, so this is a confirmation that he won't play until after the bye.
Saw early reports he was gonna be out a week or two, so this is a confirmation that he won't play until after the bye.
^^^They went against promoting Sheets from the practice squad. Havent really read why though. guess Coffee is the every-down back now with robinson backing up.
As expected:
The 49ers have formally ruled out Frank Gore (ankle) for Week 4.
Gore isn't expected back until after the Niners' bye in Week 6
But:
Beat writer Matt Maiocco expects Glen Coffee to be an every-down back for as long as Frank Gore (ankle) is out.
Coffee's only backup is special teamer Michael Robinson after the team opted against promoting rookie Kory Sheets from the practice squad. Coffee probably won't be quite as involved as Gore in the pass game, but will still be a threat for 22-28 touches in favorable matchups with St. Louis and Atlanta.
As expected:
The 49ers have formally ruled out Frank Gore (ankle) for Week 4.
Gore isn't expected back until after the Niners' bye in Week 6
But:
Beat writer Matt Maiocco expects Glen Coffee to be an every-down back for as long as Frank Gore (ankle) is out.
Coffee's only backup is special teamer Michael Robinson after the team opted against promoting rookie Kory Sheets from the practice squad. Coffee probably won't be quite as involved as Gore in the pass game, but will still be a threat for 22-28 touches in favorable matchups with St. Louis and Atlanta.
^ Yup.
Talented rookie running back has his big chance: replacing Gore
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/SPBP19UV0R.DTL
09-30) 20:28 PDT -- To the query, "How do you like your Coffee?" the 49ers are quick to respond, "We like him very much."
They had better. Glen Coffee is their only reasonable alternative at running back.
For the next two games, the rookie from Alabama will be the man for the 49ers in place of the ankle-injured Frank Gore, starting Sunday at Candlestick Park against the St. Louis Rams.
"It's what you want as a player," Coffee said Wednesday. "I hate to see Frank get injured, but it's football. It's not supposed to be any drop-off. Coaches expect it. I expect it of myself. There shouldn't be any drop-off."
Coffee, a third-round draft pick, showed his ability in the preseason when he tied for the league lead in rushing with 249 yards in the games that don't count.
They count now, and the 49ers are in turn counting on Coffee to keep the offense, yes, percolating along while Gore recovers from his ankle and foot injuries. Coffee played most of the game Sunday in Minnesota and finished with 25 carries for 54 yards, with long efforts of 12 and 13 yards.
"We're not going to alter it one bit," coach Mike Singletary said of his Gore-less offense. "Obviously, you're missing one of the best backs in the league. We're fortunate to have Coffee and I think he'll do a good job. Our offensive line will be the ones who have to take up the slack. We have every bit of confidence in Coffee to go out and do a very good job and be efficient."
The 49ers are not exactly tearing up the league with their running game after three games, ranking 16th, but it will be revealing to see where the club is in this category when Gore is supposedly ready to return, Oct. 25 at Houston.
One thing Coffee will look to do in the next two games is improve his yards per carry, as he's averaging only 1.8 yards a pop. "Glen's a powerful runner," right tackle Adam Snyder said. "Glen gives us as many opportunities as Frank, but having Frank is the key to our offense. Glen did a good job in the preseason. I think he'll continue to do a good job for us."
In any event, Snyder said, "Our job is always the same. Doesn't matter who it is, our job never changes."
Scouting the 49ers on tape, first-year Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo was impressed by what he saw on offense, even without Gore the majority of the Minnesota game.
"What they're all about is a tremendously strong, tough, physical offensive line, and I include the fullback (Moran Norris) in there," Spagnuolo said Wednesday in a conference call. "I see some really good things in the young kid, Coffee. I always feel offensive lines make running backs and running backs make offensive lines. I turn on the tape and see them moving people, coming off the line flat-backed" in proper striking position.
While Coffee's ability as a runner is a given, he said he needs work on his pass protection. In that, he has the perfect exemplar in Gore, an outstanding blocker. Gore left a lasting impression on Coffee in a blitz pickup drill against the Raiders in a joint practice session in Napa in August when he flattened Raiders linebackers on two plays.
"I learned a lot from that particular drill," Coffee said. "I'm definitely glad I got to see it, because it taught me a lot. In the NFL, you have to have leverage. It's one of the areas I need to improve on."
He has the next two games to work on that as he tries to make a fair impersonation of his mentor during this extended Coffee break.
Hard to replace
In the past three seasons, Frank Gore (above) accounted for more than 5,000 yards of offense (3,833 rushing, 1,294 receiving) and 23 touchdowns overall while playing 45 games. Thanks to two big runs against the Seahawks, he was among the league leaders before his injury Sunday, leaving a big hole in the 49ers' offense for Glen Coffee to fill.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/SPBP19UV0R.DTL#ixzz0ShQXYxGS
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/SPBP19UV0R.DTL#ixzz0ShPuIDMS
Talented rookie running back has his big chance: replacing Gore
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/SPBP19UV0R.DTL
09-30) 20:28 PDT -- To the query, "How do you like your Coffee?" the 49ers are quick to respond, "We like him very much."
They had better. Glen Coffee is their only reasonable alternative at running back.
For the next two games, the rookie from Alabama will be the man for the 49ers in place of the ankle-injured Frank Gore, starting Sunday at Candlestick Park against the St. Louis Rams.
"It's what you want as a player," Coffee said Wednesday. "I hate to see Frank get injured, but it's football. It's not supposed to be any drop-off. Coaches expect it. I expect it of myself. There shouldn't be any drop-off."
Coffee, a third-round draft pick, showed his ability in the preseason when he tied for the league lead in rushing with 249 yards in the games that don't count.
They count now, and the 49ers are in turn counting on Coffee to keep the offense, yes, percolating along while Gore recovers from his ankle and foot injuries. Coffee played most of the game Sunday in Minnesota and finished with 25 carries for 54 yards, with long efforts of 12 and 13 yards.
"We're not going to alter it one bit," coach Mike Singletary said of his Gore-less offense. "Obviously, you're missing one of the best backs in the league. We're fortunate to have Coffee and I think he'll do a good job. Our offensive line will be the ones who have to take up the slack. We have every bit of confidence in Coffee to go out and do a very good job and be efficient."
The 49ers are not exactly tearing up the league with their running game after three games, ranking 16th, but it will be revealing to see where the club is in this category when Gore is supposedly ready to return, Oct. 25 at Houston.
One thing Coffee will look to do in the next two games is improve his yards per carry, as he's averaging only 1.8 yards a pop. "Glen's a powerful runner," right tackle Adam Snyder said. "Glen gives us as many opportunities as Frank, but having Frank is the key to our offense. Glen did a good job in the preseason. I think he'll continue to do a good job for us."
In any event, Snyder said, "Our job is always the same. Doesn't matter who it is, our job never changes."
Scouting the 49ers on tape, first-year Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo was impressed by what he saw on offense, even without Gore the majority of the Minnesota game.
"What they're all about is a tremendously strong, tough, physical offensive line, and I include the fullback (Moran Norris) in there," Spagnuolo said Wednesday in a conference call. "I see some really good things in the young kid, Coffee. I always feel offensive lines make running backs and running backs make offensive lines. I turn on the tape and see them moving people, coming off the line flat-backed" in proper striking position.
While Coffee's ability as a runner is a given, he said he needs work on his pass protection. In that, he has the perfect exemplar in Gore, an outstanding blocker. Gore left a lasting impression on Coffee in a blitz pickup drill against the Raiders in a joint practice session in Napa in August when he flattened Raiders linebackers on two plays.
"I learned a lot from that particular drill," Coffee said. "I'm definitely glad I got to see it, because it taught me a lot. In the NFL, you have to have leverage. It's one of the areas I need to improve on."
He has the next two games to work on that as he tries to make a fair impersonation of his mentor during this extended Coffee break.
Hard to replace
In the past three seasons, Frank Gore (above) accounted for more than 5,000 yards of offense (3,833 rushing, 1,294 receiving) and 23 touchdowns overall while playing 45 games. Thanks to two big runs against the Seahawks, he was among the league leaders before his injury Sunday, leaving a big hole in the 49ers' offense for Glen Coffee to fill.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/SPBP19UV0R.DTL#ixzz0ShQXYxGS
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/SPBP19UV0R.DTL#ixzz0ShPuIDMS
