Next Attack Imminent: Muslims ordered to leave the United States! WTF?????????

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THE NEWS! THAT'S SAD IF THAT'S WERE YOU GET ALL YOUR INFO. Buddy read some books and do some research, Al-Qaeda and Osama are good names to hide behind, and if it is him I'm pretty sure if the Government can catch Saddam Hussein it wouldn't be hard finding Osama in some dumb ass cave.
 
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AL Qaeda and Osama = Scapegoat. Like I said...I believe they exists...only with the support of the American government, but I would like to read what Heresy has to say about them.
 
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MaKaVeLi_420 said:
lol@addicted to video games at 35 years old...
That's only because I'm learning how to make them with the Torque Game Enging. I'll upgrade to the TSE soon. and XNA that is compatible with the Torque engine. I will be able to make games for the 360 and XBOX Live Arcade. Nothing major though. I'm being realistic. You should check it out. So easy a beginner can do it. Trust me ...I know.

Garage Games.com
www.garagegames.com

XNA
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/XNA/default.aspx
 
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yea, but what i'm saying is how can they not exist when u are seeing muthafuckin osama in video tapes? i can understand how that may not be his real name (and in that context he may not exist), and he might just be some dude paid off by the american government on a top secret level (and in that context he may not exist because hes a fake terrorist)...but even if thats not his real name, he does exist as u can see by the various video tapes he has released....

as far as al-qaeda goes, i see those muthafuckas in videos as well with all their guns and turbans and shit sitting around a table...i can see how that could be a set-up (controversial kinda like the moon landing)by the american government, and in that context they would not exist because they would be fake terrorists....see above....and i aint talkin Taliban here, i'm talkin Al-Qaeda....

so if that's what u guys mean by them not existing [because they are just a spectacle (a public show or display, on a large scale)] then i can understand that...this is hard to communicate on a computer..

@stockton, read my post again, i said i have read about them IN BOOKS....and i dont JUST watch my local news, i watch all news, CNN, AND i read internet news from independent and a bunch of other sources, when it comes to the news, i like to hear from many points of view....

Stockton209SS said:
Al-Qaeda and Osama are good names to hide behind, and if it is him
bold emphasis is mine...

you just contradicted yourself there, which shows that u arent even sure of your own stance on this subject...get your opinion straight if u want to argue against my posts please..


HERESY said:
I will however explain this in detail later.
please do...
 

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Al-Queda isn't even real. So what this means is, the United States is going to fund an attack...AGAIN. They're going to kill Americans, AGAIN. And then probably blame it all on Iraq or Iran or some other fucking country that we use to be cool with but now that they aren't our bitches we (the US) dont' like them.

And Stockton209SS...they don't NEED Christ. That's a CROCK OF SHIT.

They have schools called Madras. Which are pretty much like private Christian or Catholic schools...The only difference is, from what I've been told, is that the Madras tell the kids that if they sacrafice themselves they'll get shit in the afterlife....

That's not a problem of the RELIGION. That's a problem with the PEOPLE in the religion.

FUCK THE GOV'T.

AND....for those of you talking about "I've seen them in video tapes," please use your brains. I'll let you in on an editing secret....YOU CAN ADD OR DELETE ANYTHING from ANY clip in ANY shot, for ANY amount of time.

And tell me, do any of YOU actually understand what Bin Laden is supposedly saying in the videos? Or do you just trust the stupid FUCKS on the news and think that everything they tell you is truth?

I could have a realistic video with pigs flying. I could edit a video and put Mohammad Ali next to me kickin it if I had the video to do it. My point is, you dont' know what's in the videos cause you didn't make them, you dont' speak the fucking language, and you don't have your own copy of the video to analyze.
 
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Doberman said:
AL Qaeda and Osama = Scapegoat. Like I said...I believe they exists...only with the support of the American government, but I would like to read what Heresy has to say about them.

yes, now i can agree with this. i don't want to get into the 9/11 attacks (which i think your main arguement of them being scapegoats may be based upon. Judging by how you say "only with the support of the American Government") and my stance on those because i dont think i have put enough research into those specific events to base an opinion on; and i dont want this to turn into ANOTHER 9/11 thread (even though the 9/11 events may be a main thesis for basing an arguement upon), but i see where u are coming from by saying they are scapegoats......

my next question to you would be, if the Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden are Scapegoats for president Bush and the American gov't, then WHO are the real terrorists? (if any); and i'm sure i have a good idea of what you are going to say....

good thread keep it rollin....
 

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MaKaVeLi_420 said:
my next question to you would be, if the Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden are Scapegoats for president Bush and the American gov't, then WHO are the real terrorists? (if any); and i'm sure i have a good idea of what you are going to say....
I know this wasn't directed to me....but are you looking for a specific name of someone who would be the "real" terrorist? Or are you just looking to see who people think it really is?

Our gov't is and has been funding them. We trained them. Bush AND Clinton BOTH had reports about "terrorist" attacks, so either way it's inexcusable that any kind of terrorist act happened....

The United States, along with probably England, I would say are the main culprits. I guess anyone in the UN could be associated too but some of them aren't half bad.

I obviously can't point my finger and say, "those guys are the terrorists" but I can say that the United States government has control over the issue and if they didn't want shit to happen, it wouldn't.

There IS a reason why the fighter jets went out over the Atlantic Ocean on 9/11 instead of the white house/ pentagon...They apparently thought we were being attacked by the Soviets (which don't exist anymore). That's a real fucking great excuse. People should stop lying about what happened.
 
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Sixxness said:
Al-Queda isn't even real. So what this means is, the United States is going to fund an attack...AGAIN. They're going to kill Americans, AGAIN. And then probably blame it all on Iraq or Iran or some other fucking country that we use to be cool with but now that they aren't our bitches we (the US) dont' like them.
what i'm getting from this post is that u believe the americans are the real terrorists, right? and that they are setting the attacks up and paying for them, right? why would they do this? (i just want to hear what u have to say...not trying to start an arguement) Here's my beef, how is Al-Qaeda not real? are u saying that the american government just made up a name (Al-Qaeda) for a terrorist organization, and took videos of random alleged terrorists talking to a camera, and made their own voice-overs? this is a whole nother subject but it has to do with americans being terrorists, do you think they kidnapped the isreali troops THEMSELVES in lebanon to start that whole 34-day war (or however long it lasted)? and why would they do this?



Sixxness said:
And tell me, do any of YOU actually understand what Bin Laden is supposedly saying in the videos? Or do you just trust the stupid FUCKS on the news and think that everything they tell you is truth?

I could have a realistic video with pigs flying. I could edit a video and put Mohammad Ali next to me kickin it if I had the video to do it. My point is, you dont' know what's in the videos cause you didn't make them, you dont' speak the fucking language, and you don't have your own copy of the video to analyze.

i think if the news is saying something OTHER than what osama is saying in the videos, we would know about it [i think somebody would step forward and say "no this is not what osama (or whoever it may be) is saying in the videos"]. no, i dont speak the language, and no i dont believe everything i see on TV. i understand what propaganda is and everything that comes along with it...do u speak the language? probably not, how would u know what the videotapes are actually saying, and what is reported they are saying ISNT true..? oh my head hurts
 
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@ MaKaVeLi_420 ...have you watched any of the Illuminati videos posted in this forum...I'm not talkin bout the Loose Change video about 9/11.
 
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Sixxness said:
I know this wasn't directed to me....but are you looking for a specific name of someone who would be the "real" terrorist? Or are you just looking to see who people think it really is?
im just curious as to what everyone has to say. i'm looking to get more educated here because i want to here from numerous different people so i can get numerous different point-of-views (sp?). strictly for debate purposes....

Sixxness said:
Our gov't is and has been funding them. We trained them. Bush AND Clinton BOTH had reports about "terrorist" attacks, so either way it's inexcusable that any kind of terrorist act happened....
yea, i watched the FOX interview with clinton a couple days ago...

Sixxness said:
The United States, along with probably England, I would say are the main culprits. I guess anyone in the UN could be associated too but some of them aren't half bad.

I obviously can't point my finger and say, "those guys are the terrorists" but I can say that the United States government has control over the issue and if they didn't want shit to happen, it wouldn't.
why england (UK)?
 

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MaKaVeLi_420 said:
what i'm getting from this post is that u believe the americans are the real terrorists, right? and that they are setting the attacks up and paying for them, right? why would they do this? (i just want to hear what u have to say...not trying to start an arguement) Here's my beef, how is Al-Qaeda not real? are u saying that the american government just made up a name (Al-Qaeda) for a terrorist organization, and took videos of random alleged terrorists talking to a camera, and made their own voice-overs? this is a whole nother subject but it has to do with americans being terrorists, do you think they kidnapped the isreali troops THEMSELVES in lebanon to start that whole 34-day war (or however long it lasted)? and why would they do this?
Yes. And yes. Why? Money, power, not having to worry about shit. Is that good enough? If you want to get into it Al-Queda is "real" because they have members, but the group itself I don't believe is responsible for all the shit that they are blaimed for.

I don't think they kidnapped the Israeli troops, but I haven't read up as much on that topic, once I got offline for the summer, I stopped reading news.

i think if the news is saying something OTHER than what osama is saying in the videos, we would know about it [i think somebody would step forward and say "no this is not what osama (or whoever it may be) is saying in the videos"]. no, i dont speak the language, and no i dont believe everything i see on TV. i understand what propaganda is and everything that comes along with it...do u speak the language? probably not, how would u know what the videotapes are actually saying, and what is reported they are saying ISNT true..? oh my head hurts
Who is going to do that? Some other guy that knows his shit? Do you think that any of the networks would allow someone to come on and say that everything the gov't is saying is BULLSHIT? NO. My point in bringing up the editing and language was not to prove their existance, it was to question where you get your information and why you believe what you do. When it comes to the US gov't, I don't believe much that's on TV because I know that A LOT of the networks are owned by CONSERVATIVES who indeed to benefit from having a Republican gov't. That's like me giving you a gun and you shooting yourself in the foot....of course they'll take the MONEY!

MaKaVeLi_420 said:
im just curious as to what everyone has to say. i'm looking to get more educated here because i want to here from numerous different people so i can get numerous different point-of-views (sp?). strictly for debate purposes....
I can respect that.


yea, i watched the FOX interview with clinton a couple days ago...
Shit man, I was talking about the 9/11 investigation that our gov't did and all the questioning with the Administration and Condelezza Rice....That bitch is stupid. I watched it on C-Span or something, there was more than enough information going around that even the DUMBEST mother fucker on the Siccness would have made a better choice.

why england (UK)?
Just a hunch/idea that I have. I mean, since Tony Blair and George Bush get together and have gay orgies, so they're probably cahooting (spelling?). I have just learned to not put anything past the gov't. They will do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to ensure their OWN stability. NOT the stability of the PEOPLE, only the SYSTEM which benefits them. I can't break it down on here like I do in my head, cause I don't have that much time to type it all out...but it comes down to the fact that in this day and age, gov't cares about MONEY. At least in our country. The people are not the priority, in fact, the people are being used every second of their life to further benefit our Capitalist gov't.

And anyone who seriously allies themself with the US is either 1) stupid or 2) a fucking snake.

That's just my opinion though.
 
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Sixxness said:
Yes. And yes. Why? Money, power, not having to worry about shit. Is that good enough? If you want to get into it Al-Queda is "real" because they have members, but the group itself I don't believe is responsible for all the shit that they are blaimed for.

I don't think they kidnapped the Israeli troops, but I haven't read up as much on that topic, once I got offline for the summer, I stopped reading news.
finally, thats what i wanted to hear....thank you..



Sixxness said:
Who is going to do that? Some other guy that knows his shit? Do you think that any of the networks would allow someone to come on and say that everything the gov't is saying is BULLSHIT? NO. My point in bringing up the editing and language was not to prove their existance, it was to question where you get your information and why you believe what you do. When it comes to the US gov't, I don't believe much that's on TV because I know that A LOT of the networks are owned by CONSERVATIVES who indeed to benefit from having a Republican gov't. That's like me giving you a gun and you shooting yourself in the foot....of course they'll take the MONEY!

okay, but im from canada. we have different media reports here man. its not much different because our countries are more similar now than ever (both conservative leaders). i dont believe everything thats said on TV either. i still dont see why they would just make up their own captions for these videos...




Sixxness said:
Shit man, I was talking about the 9/11 investigation that our gov't did and all the questioning with the Administration and Condelezza Rice....That bitch is stupid. I watched it on C-Span or something, there was more than enough information going around that even the DUMBEST mother fucker on the Siccness would have made a better choice.
oh alright, but the way u put what u said made it sound like u could have been talking about either event....i agree that bitch is dumb as a bag of hammers



Sixxness said:
Just a hunch/idea that I have. I mean, since Tony Blair and George Bush get together and have gay orgies, so they're probably cahooting (spelling?). I have just learned to not put anything past the gov't. They will do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to ensure their OWN stability. NOT the stability of the PEOPLE, only the SYSTEM which benefits them. I can't break it down on here like I do in my head, cause I don't have that much time to type it all out...but it comes down to the fact that in this day and age, gov't cares about MONEY. At least in our country. The people are not the priority, in fact, the people are being used every second of their life to further benefit our Capitalist gov't.

And anyone who seriously allies themself with the US is either 1) stupid or 2) a fucking snake.

That's just my opinion though.
emphasis mine...i can agree with that 100%, case-in-point; hurricane katrina. also with the last statement, but in many countries (such as canada and UK) the majority of people are AGAINST their countries' support of the usa.....which has been shown through many polls....
 
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IM THINKING THEY MIGHT ATTACK LAS VEGAS BECAUSE LOOK AT THE REASONS Y THEY CUT THE BUDGET

Reasons behind Vegas terror-funding cut

July 13, 2006 01:36 PM
For months Las Vegas leaders have complained we were shortchanged by the Homeland Security Department, when our city lost millions in federal money to protect against terrorist attacks.

Despite our status as a worldwide tourist destination, the government labeled Las Vegas a low-priority, and now we know more about the reasoning behind that.


Some of the biggest landmarks in our city were ignored in that study, and if that's not shocking enough, wait until you hear what Homeland Security considered as potential targets.

Las Vegas was one of 11 cities taken off a list for anti-terror grants. Mayor Oscar Goodman and Sheriff Bill Young said the government was missing the big picture. That's because they were looking at the small things.

City officials said we were short changed by Homeland Security and as it turns out, they were right.

In a press release Wednesday, city officials said an Inspector General Report, critical of the Department of Homeland Security, confirmed their suspicions that an assessment of vulnerabilities was flawed, resulting in the loss of critical funds for southern Nevada all because of a faulty report.

In this report, the Department of Homeland Security completely fails to mention a majority of the city's monumental pieces like the Las Vegas Convention Center. They did, however, take into account an insect zoo, a flea market and of all things, an ice cream parlor.

That list gets even more outrageous. Other terrorist targets include auto shops, a mule day parade and kennel club and poker room.

To make matters worse, the report says nothing about Nellis Air Force Base and most of the Strip's billion dollar casinos, not to mention the tens of millions of tourists that make Vegas one of the hottest destination spots in the country and, what some would consider, a prime target for terrorists.

"The 20 largest hotels and properties in the world and 15 of them were on Las Vegas Blvd," said Sheriff Young. "And there's not a night when I don't pray that nothing happens to us."

Before this announcement of potential terror threats, the amount that Las Vegas would get from Homeland Security was already decreased significantly. We asked for $22 million for anti-terror funding, but we got less than $8 million.

To make sure southern Nevada isn't shortchanged again, Clark County made several recommendations for next year's program.

Among them are allowing the state and local governments to review the data used to determine the outcome. That way, corrections can be made before the final decision on funding allocations.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5147584&nav=menu107_2

NOW WTF DOES THAT MEAN HUH? THE GOVERNMENT DONT GIVE A FUCK!
 

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MaKaVeLi_420 said:
emphasis mine...
Just so I'm clear on this, did you mean that I need to emphasize that what I type is my opinion?

@Heresy

I didn't realize he was talking to you, I just jumped into the conversation when I saw things that I wanted to reply to. I must be psychic, or at least as cool as you. :)
 

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nhojsmith said:
Look I'm not saying its right or wrong, but I do think a large part of the world is in denial that a certain segment of the world population wishes death upon them. "No not me, they can't possibly want to kill all non-Muslims, no way, I didn't do anything to them, its the governments fault". I suppose the interviews of kids in Iran were all child actors hired by our government to live among the people and wish death upon Ariel Sharon and death to all Jews. Its incomprehensible to some that they could be the enemy of people they have never met.
Until you live their life dont' comment on what they "should" believe. That's fucking ridiculous, I don't care what it is, people are a product of their environment. And you are saying it's wrong, you just aren't getting balls and saying "I think this is wrong" cause you don't want to have to deal with having someone calling you out and discussing the issue.

Your sarcasm isn't disguised.