2-0-Sixx said:
The Iraqi's are dying as a result of the Amerikan invasion. Plain & simple. Do I think it's genocide? Nope. Do I place the blame solely on Amerika? Absolutely.
I agree 100%.
Gladly. According to who or what, and based on what material, will this invasion never meet the criteria for genocide - that was your question. I am going to paraphrase the definition of "genocide" in question form. You can then read the question and answer for yourself.
Has the United States, with complete malice of forethought, developed a system with integrated methods of exterminating the entire Iraqi population based on an intangible prejudice towards the people of said country?
You can answer yes or no, it has no affect on me. I am trying to present to you a more clear outline on what "Genocide" actually is.
Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
Again....explain. Do you have proof to this claim?Seems to me...the US is doing just that...they have killed over half a million IRAQI people sicne they invaded which is what...a little over 3 years now?
1. I am not clear as to which claim you are requesting proof. It is logic that tells me there is no malice of forethought. In this case logic serves as enough proof to back this claim up. What would the U.S. have against “Iraqi” people? It is not the color of their skin because they are allies with, and are apathetic towards many other countries with the same human characteristics. I believe the burden of proof lies on you. You would have to prove they have some hatred for Iraqi’s specifically. I can not possibly prove that they like Iraqi people. I can't even prove our government likes us if you follow what I'm saying.
2. Check out this link:
http://icasualties.org/oif/Iraqi.aspx. It is a website that collects reported casualties in Iraq. On this specific page is a list of over 30 instances where Iraqi’s are attacking other Iraqi’s, all in a period of 12 days. This war has been going on for years now, so you can imagine the numbers to be exponentially greater.
So yes, half of a million people have been reported killed in Iraq. But to assume, and to accredit all deaths to the United States is shortcoming. You can play the blame game all you want, saying that “well if the U.S. never invaded…”, then I will say “Well if Saddam never…” etc. etc. A because B, B because C, C because D. A because D? No because this is not an invariable equation. Other factors come into play and conditions are changed.
Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
Even though 2.5% may not SEEM like alot of people...655,000 people dead is still 655,000 dead because of US greed for power... What happened to the Jews didnt look like "genocide" at first...2 million Jews later though....HMMMM...
I was not alive to observe what was going on in Europe during the second world war, but I can tell you this much; If I was made aware that the Nazi’s were rounding up
ALL of the jewish people, taking them to concentration camps and killing them one by one in cold blood, I would have never questioned it to be genocide. Not even for a fraction of a second.