NEW"OBAMA SONG" By BATTLE LOC PROD.BY RICK ROCK

[Contagious Locc]

There are things called B-O-O-K-S. There are things called L-I-B-R-A-R-I-E-S. There are websites with credible information pertaining to such subjects. Get out, talk to people, research things, study things do whatever it takes but turn off the tv and stop falling for all the 'feel good' campaigns being shoved down your throat.

Right On.

Actively participating in this falsehood called voting will never pave the way for a so-called revolution. I don't think I need to repeat this anymore, but I'm sure I will.

When I said a reformist is someone who operates in the system to change or attempt to change the economic and political structures, but when I talk about revolution I speak in terms of society. A reformist and revolutionary are two entirely different things, I didn't think I needed to say that because I thought you would know what I was talking about. I guess not though because you seem to think that I'm saying actively participating is going to bring about a revolution. The only thing I've said in this thread remotely close to that was that engaging in politics could lead people to become more interested in how the political system works. The only thing that can bring about changes we need in this country is a revolution. Please do not ask me why engage in politics if I know this.

Politics is war without bloodshed? Do me a favor, google pnac and tell me if that's politics without bloodshed. Yes, this is the hand we were dealt, but does it mean we have to play it? Refer to reality.

We were talking about national and presidential elections, right? We've been talking about this the whole time so why you throwing PNAC in the mix. You know what I was referring to so why you taking what I said out of context.

You're going around in circles. If we follow your logic, and look at history, one will come to the logical conclusion that your way of thinking and method will keep the people in bondage for another 400 years. What your suggesting should be done is NEVER going to lead to ANYTHING radical. How many more centuries do the people need to go through this?

I'm going to say it once more and then I'll leave it alone. Actively participating in politics is not going to lead to anything radical....Read it again, and once more. Please provide me with a quote from any of my previous posts where I've said this, as a matter of fact provide any post where I've said how a revolution could come about.

Partaking in the system shows you're in compliance with it, non-participation in the system shows you aren't (and the non-participants I'm referring to are those who have a logical reason as to why they don't vote.)

Does that rule apply across the board?

You do realize what that was in response to right? Next time, limit your attacks or choose your words wisely. This doesn't go both ways as I couldn't care less about what you do when it comes to voting. However, I do care when you post absurdities and suggest I sound "dogmatic" when you're here agreeing with me yet you continue to go in circles.

I don't think you read my replies throughly before you respond. If you go back and read where I called you dogmatic you would have to admit it was. You simply said voting was a waste of time and gave no explanation what so ever. And I didn't agree with you until after you explained why you felt the way you did. I never thought I attacked you, as far as I'm considered you haven't offended me either, this is just discussion to me. I just find it strange that everytime you reply you say you don't care if I vote or not, I read it the first time you typed it.

Don't partake in the voting process. Demand some other standard besides paper money. Turn off the idiot box, stop participating in every fad and trend that comes along and educate yourself in the areas of math, science and language. Stop relying on technology, stop feeding into capitalism and stop demanding a McDonalized society. Stop going to church every sunday giving your money to the preacher, stop becoming emotionally attached to puppets, stop endorsing wars, stop dividing ourselves according to class, religion, political affiliation etc.

All of this can be done by EACH citizen in the country, yet it will never happen which means change will only come about by one of the things I previously listed.

Good post

 

[HERESY]

When I said a reformist is someone who operates in the system to change or attempt to change the economic and political structures, but when I talk about revolution I speak in terms of society.

I'm sorry but you can't have both. BTW, there is no way to operate and change the economic and political structures as long as the people are slaves to capitalism. Unless one of those things I mentioned posts ago happens, it will be the same cycle over and over.

The bottom line is if things are going to change, capitalism must be destroyed, abolished, stamped out, wiped out and not reformed. Until this happens, things will remain as they are and the illusion of "the power of the vote" will prosper.

A reformist and revolutionary are two entirely different things, I didn't think I needed to say that because I thought you would know what I was talking about.

They are two different ideaologies that cannot co-exist. Why then are you trying to lump the two together?

I guess not though because you seem to think that I'm saying actively participating is going to bring about a revolution. The only thing I've said in this thread remotely close to that was that engaging in politics could lead people to become more interested in how the political system works. The only thing that can bring about changes we need in this country is a revolution. Please do not ask me why engage in politics if I know this.

Listen, I do not think you are saying actively participating is going to bring about a revolution. As previously stated, your answer, if you chose to provide one, would have been a 'gauge' as to how much you really think the vote matters. What I'm saying is the vote does not pave a way for any type of empowerment whatsoever. What I'm saying is the vote won't galvanize a movement that brings about a revolution. This is why I said it won't pave the way, meaning it won't lay any groundwork.

The only thing that can bring about changes we need in this country is a revolution. Please do not ask me why engage in politics if I know this.

Why engage in politics if you know this?

We were talking about national and presidential elections, right? We've been talking about this the whole time so why you throwing PNAC in the mix. You know what I was referring to so why you taking what I said out of context.

Why not throw them in the mix? Last I checked our VP was a member of pnac. So was the Secretary of Defense, deputy secretary of defense, a former vice president/senator, other senators, governers, lobbyists, etc. Again, you said what you said about politics and bloodhsed, and I'm showing you politics is not without bloodshed. I don't know what you were referring to and took nothing out of context, and I'm sure the million plus dead civilians that were killed in Iraq would agree that politics and bloodshed have a strong correlation.

This is the hand we were dealt, but does it mean we have to play it?

I'm going to say it once more and then I'll leave it alone. Actively participating in politics is not going to lead to anything radical....Read it again, and once more. Please provide me with a quote from any of my previous posts where I've said this, as a matter of fact provide any post where I've said how a revolution could come about.

As previously stated, what you're espousing is the comical ideaology that one should choose the lesser of two evils and that doing so will somehow allow the common man to gain a foothold in all of this. Not that he will change things overnight, or that things will be better in a twinkle of an eye but a foothold--meaning he will have a better position than before. What your saying is this is the hand we are dealt. What you're implying is to participate until a revolution happens because this is the system, there is nothing else and that reform may be possible. What I'm saying is all of that is a waste of time. Actively participating in politics is not going to lead to ANYTHING. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Nathan.

Does that rule apply across the board?

Why would it apply across the board when the rules are different for local elections and the possibility of actually seeing your vote count isn't far-fetched?

I don't think you read my replies throughly before you respond.

I read every post before I reply.

If you go back and read where I called you dogmatic you would have to admit it was. You simply said voting was a waste of time and gave no explanation what so ever.

I don't have to admit things that aren't true. There was no need to give an explanation. If someone ask if it's raining outside are you going to tell them yes/no or are you going to answer them and provide a lot of info pertaining to humidity, percipitation, velocity etc? When you said, "Fuck raising the awareness at this point, that can wait," did you tell us why we should say fuck it and why it should wait? When you said, "now is the time to motivate young people (especially minorities) to participate in american politics, they can be educated in the process. "did you explain why the time was now, how they would be motivated, and how they would actually be educated in the process? Who's the one sounding dogmatic here?

And I didn't agree with you until after you explained why you felt the way you did.

When the statement was originally made there was no need to go into any type of detail. After you inquired is when I went into detail. No inquiry, no detail. Closed mouths don't get fed.

I just find it strange that everytime you reply you say you don't care if I vote or not, I read it the first time you typed it.

If you read it the first time I typed it, why did you not read when I said, "you should stop endorsing a system that has failed the public for hundreds of years now. " for what it was? Why did you take the statement out of context? Everything I type is in response to what you're typing as you were the one who initiated this conversation. Read what is being typed, if you don't understand ask for clarification or further elaboration. However, jumping to conclusions like you've done in this thread will earn you nothing.

 

[Contagious Locc]

I wasn't lumping to two ideologies together, I trying to compare and contrast, the key word there was BUT. I say a reformist and revolutionary are two different things, and you tell me they are two different ideaologies....really? I say the only thing that can bring about change in this country is a revolution, and you say capitalism must be destroyed, abolished, stamped out, wiped out, not reformed...really? Why would I say revolution is the only way for the necessary changes in this country, then turn around and say that reform within the system is possible? Only a complete idiot would believe such a thing. When I mentioned reformist I wasn't speaking in terms of making changes in the system from within, but just living in one that in a sense you support whether you want to accept it or not. We all must partake in this system some way or another in order to survive. Voting has nothing to do with survival, but that's the point I'm trying to make. Capitalism is the driving force, but at the same time we feed into it daily just to keep a roof over our heads, food on the table, and clothes on our back. That’s the reason when you say if we partake in a system that means we’re in compliance with it I asked you if that rule applies across the board. I’m not asking people to believe in some “comical ideology” because I myself don’t believe in one. How much do I think the vote matters? None. It has no practical significance at all in terms of changing our country. If I know this why do I actively participate? For the same reason I sit at the front of the bus (laughing). It is more of a symbol, example, or illustration if you will. This would be illogical if I believed the system worked but I already made it clear that I don’t. It has nothing to do with chosen the lesser of the two evils, gaining a foothold, working within the system, the vote paving the way or any other else. I don't think think there's any more else to be said in this thread, however I know you're not going to give me the satisfaction of walking away with the last word so end by saying this.

For what it's worth I enjoyed chopping it up with you, you were on point with alot of the things you said. It always good to walk away from a topic of discussion as this and learn something new, that's what it's all about with me.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

I have been saying for years that our political system is a joke, a scam, and a sham. My boss is adamant about "go out and vite, its your right!" My right to what? Sit back and think I made a difference in an outcome I know is already going to be there whether I like it or not? Or that I have to fall into the dog & pony show known as the "Presidential Campaing"? Fuck that nonsense.

I agree with Heresy in that this country, and WORLD, is run by one thing: MONEY, period. A capitalist run world has only made it a borderline terrible place to live. We are slaves to currency, but we are so far gone, there seems like no hope on the horizon.

With that being said, FUCK OBAMA....unless he can cut his puppet strings, no CHANGE will be in the near, or far for that matter, future.

 

[CaliCaliente]

EVERYBODY HAS A CHOICE? MEANING=

To live and not be suicidal. To procreate and to destroy, to be positive or negative.That being said its alotof negative post and some positive and motivational words also.Civil Rights had people of courage that stood for what they believed was right. They brought about change that alot of less fortunate people benifited from and still do today.So big ups to you for your efforts to do something out side of just talkn. And dont listen to the hateration . Just keep going. Let them lay down while you stand up for what you believe and know is right.

 

[HERESY]

To live and not be suicidal. To procreate and to destroy, to be positive or negative.That being said its alotof negative post and some positive and motivational words also.Civil Rights had people of courage that stood for what they believed was right. They brought about change that alot of less fortunate people benifited from and still do today.So big ups to you for your efforts to do something out side of just talkn. And dont listen to the hateration . Just keep going. Let them lay down while you stand up for what you believe and know is right.

You could have easily said, "I liked the song keep doing what you're doing", yet you type emotional babble that I know you won't be able to elaborate on if asked.

 

[fed_life]

is that tick of kinsmoke on the chorus?

 

[HERESY]

Considering I stopped listening before he got to the hook I don't know.

EDIT: when I first streamed the song I ff straight to the verse, now I just listened and the first hook is at the start. Sounds like Tick to me.

Ask Mank Manson if his vote counts. In fact, ask Donshay if his vote counts.

 

[HERESY]

And a chance at what? How the FUCK do we "have a chance" if his own brother doesn't have a chance? Here is what his brother said, "I live here on less than a dollar a month."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...arack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

 

[WestCoastLife]

Fo Sho ,HOT!

Keep spittin that HEAT.I like dat shit, Homie!