exactally! so let's say they both released the same amount of material with the same production, I feel that mastamind would be equal to or surpass esham. that's my opinion and I'm stickin to it....lol. don't get me wrong esham is dope! but to say mastamind is nowhere near E's level lyrical wise is just plain retarded. I think mastamind got the short end of the stick most of his career not because he sucks, maybe cause of financal situations who knows. When they were both signed to Overcore who had the better album? Mindzi or Mail Dominance? They both were dope albums...