Neda
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Once again here comes I Pukokeki Ioulo Momu tryin to pick out one little statement that he can be disagreeable with.
You said this after someone asks why the fashion laws DIFFER FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY, then you make a statement that makes it seem that all muslim countries are the same.
Arab countries tend to be more conservative, thus why their women have to cover up more, but i guess that means nothing
You said this after someone asks why the fashion laws DIFFER FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY, then you make a statement that makes it seem that all muslim countries are the same.
Arab countries tend to be more conservative, thus why their women have to cover up more, but i guess that means nothing
i would just like to piont out that America has killed thousands of people in Irak,Afganistan and Pakistan and they dont show any pictures of that.
one iranien girl gets shoot and all of a sudden people gets upset.
people get killed every day the differense with this case is that they gave this girl a name so she is not anonymous and that obvisouly makes al lot of differense to a lot of people.
I feel sorry for this girl as much as the next man but i also know that her death is sadly enough used for propganda purposes by America and the British.
The freedom and democracy that the western media tries to pin to this tragic death is is the type democracy were the us first tries to distabilse the contry to finely bring in there own puppet.
one iranien girl gets shoot and all of a sudden people gets upset.
people get killed every day the differense with this case is that they gave this girl a name so she is not anonymous and that obvisouly makes al lot of differense to a lot of people.
I feel sorry for this girl as much as the next man but i also know that her death is sadly enough used for propganda purposes by America and the British.
The freedom and democracy that the western media tries to pin to this tragic death is is the type democracy were the us first tries to distabilse the contry to finely bring in there own puppet.
that is probably the biggest story that the general U.S. knows.but what people dont understand is that the government has "total control" (for the lack of a better word) of the country....we're told (last number i heard) theres 17 dead....whats not being widely said is that the government is threatening be-headings if ur caught posting anything on the net or twitters,blogs, whatever....they also supposedly went to a college campus and killed 100 kids that were supposedly at the protests..........when the protests were happening, the government (which runs the air waves) put cooking shows on tv over the news..........theres alot we dont know over here.......
Ghadiri is hardly a credible source.this is the same guy who said the protesters represent a minority. hes also the same guy who gave a speech on zionism on Feb 11th (30th anniversary of the Khomeinist revolution). Iran's ambassador to mexico? With Ahmadenijad's plan of penetrating south america, its obvious where his allegiance is in this whole issue. hes doing the same thing the other mullahs are doing, pointing the fingers at the US is the Islamic Gvt and Ahmadenijad camps oldest and most used fear tactic.
So every one of the 30 odd videos ive seen depicting young iranians dying must have been in some how orchestrated by the CIA because we cant tell if there were other protests going on around them or because more than one person was around to record it? if theres multiple recordings doesnt that mean there were other protesters around them?? not to mention the videos showing neda before the shot in the same place where a mass protest is going on. shot in the head but theres no exit wound. etc etc
im not saying that other countries, particularly the US, are not gaining or possibly involved in this situation. but does it even make a difference? either way this guys argument is wack imo
So every one of the 30 odd videos ive seen depicting young iranians dying must have been in some how orchestrated by the CIA because we cant tell if there were other protests going on around them or because more than one person was around to record it? if theres multiple recordings doesnt that mean there were other protesters around them?? not to mention the videos showing neda before the shot in the same place where a mass protest is going on. shot in the head but theres no exit wound. etc etc
im not saying that other countries, particularly the US, are not gaining or possibly involved in this situation. but does it even make a difference? either way this guys argument is wack imo
I don't know if he's credible or not, I'm simply asking if it's possible. IMHO, it is possible, but to be very clear, in saying it's possible I'm not saying it happened. How many young women were killed during these protests? How is it they were able to galvanize their forces and implement her in their crusade in such a short amount of time? It's as if she came the postergirl for resistance just hours after her death.
Well, that would depend on the extent of their involvement.
Well, that would depend on the extent of their involvement.
right i mean i dont mean to rule out the possibility, but just as plausible is the fact that among the dozens of videos depicting people actually dying, hers is in all honesty the most effective emotionally, which would as the most "marketable" death video (that sounds so cold but ya) naturally set it up to be poster for the resistance.
i agree totally that in terms of other countries it depends on their level of involvement but my point was more like for the kids in the streets who are very much like american kids who are essentially just puppets very much like american kids, when they feel like theyre being ripped off or they feel the right to fight for their freedom, and they see their friends dying simply because theyre fighting for that basic freedom, the people pulling the strings to cause this situation really doesnt matter in the eyes of those kids. it should, maybe, but if u put urself in their shoes, the fight is in the present moment and is black and white, whoever is involved in the "black" side doesnt matter as long as u know ur fighting for whats right, in ur mind at least. u know what i mean? to us as outsiders analyzing the situation from a removed perspective, sure, its important to understand the bigger picture, but for the ones that are dealing with it daily, the piecing together of that understanding is almost superfluous when the enemy is kicking your front door open.
i agree totally that in terms of other countries it depends on their level of involvement but my point was more like for the kids in the streets who are very much like american kids who are essentially just puppets very much like american kids, when they feel like theyre being ripped off or they feel the right to fight for their freedom, and they see their friends dying simply because theyre fighting for that basic freedom, the people pulling the strings to cause this situation really doesnt matter in the eyes of those kids. it should, maybe, but if u put urself in their shoes, the fight is in the present moment and is black and white, whoever is involved in the "black" side doesnt matter as long as u know ur fighting for whats right, in ur mind at least. u know what i mean? to us as outsiders analyzing the situation from a removed perspective, sure, its important to understand the bigger picture, but for the ones that are dealing with it daily, the piecing together of that understanding is almost superfluous when the enemy is kicking your front door open.
The news is dominated by things that do not matter because the people who dominate the news want to dominate those who are dominated by things that do not matter at all, because total domination is the goal of those who wish to dominate those who don't know they are being dominated.
It doesn't matter to you. You don't speak for everyone on this site.
It doesn't matter to you. You don't speak for everyone on this site.
