Neda

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In case you didnt know, a lot is going on in Iran right now. The government is about to topple. Thousands of people are taking to the streets. One of them was a young girl named Neda Soltani. The Basij militia, who are trying to protect the government, sniped her in the heart. Here is the video of her dying, very sad
 
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very heartbreaking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neda_Soltani

although some reports claim more than 150-200 people have been killed in the last week, its images like this that really open peoples eyes.

to translate what her father is screaming, he is saying "Dont be scared. Neda dont be scared, dont be scared. Stay with me, Neda, stay with me. Neda, LIVE. LIVE!"
 
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very heartbreaking.



although some reports claim more than 150-200 people have been killed in the last week, its images like this that really open peoples eyes.

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So true. If their population has much sense, she will be a local legend spoke and sung about for generations as remembering is the first step in preventing another needless death.

It is sad to think that the USA is the authority on "civil rights"
and the like as we have a long way to go ourselves.
 
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In case you didnt know, a lot is going on in Iran right now. The government is about to topple. Thousands of people are taking to the streets. One of them was a young girl named Neda Soltani. The Basij militia, who are trying to protect the government, sniped her in the heart. Here is the video of her dying, very sad
i dont know about the government toppling as a whole, but i could be wrong. reason i say this is because most of the protest is just in tehran, and other few cities. i dont think this is enough to topple their supreme leader who keep in mind is now using his revolutionary guard to settle shit down. Also there has been "pro" ahmedinjad (sp) rallies, so basically MOST of country would have to revolt against their govt, for it to even topple....
 
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i dont think one can rule out the possibility of the iranian people toppling hte islamic government. if u remember how that government got there in the first place, there are a lot of parallels between that situation and this. and that revolution got them in a worse place than they were before, they were lied to, and theyve had to live with it quietly letting the emotions and anger build up till right NOW. this is a pissed off country with a majority under 30 years old, their lives ruined by the REMOVAL of their civil liberties and more importantly the right to have fun/party/drink/club etc (which sounds shallow but thats a big part of the PERSIAN culture, which to iranian people means more than ISLAMIC culture/law, which is also an important factor). letting someone be free and taking away those freedoms is a classic justification for the most extreme measures of revolution. john locke, social contract, etc. and finally theyve gotten off their asses and got together and blatantly defied the iron fist of the islamic republic, not to mention with "God" on their side, ie fighting for the side of good and justice. it does a lot to boost morale.

perhaps they may not topple the government, but for this young generation, ready for change, ready to let old leaders with old values die off, anything less than a revolution would be postponing the inevitable. for them to know for the first time that its possible to unite as one for a cause, to know that the country still belongs to them, i mean the stage has been set for dramatic social change. it may be immediate or it may be a slow transition, but either way the beginning is now.
 
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nav off topic but since u said u were iranian you might be able to give me an answer for this...but why is it ok for women in iran and other arab countries to show their face and wear make up etc but not women in afganistan? is it just diff islamic teachings or how the govt is?
 
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nav off topic but since u said u were iranian you might be able to give me an answer for this...but why is it ok for women in iran and other arab countries to show their face and wear make up etc but not women in afganistan? is it just diff islamic teachings or how the govt is?
it depends on how conservative the country is. In iran women show almost all of their head except for the ears and stuff. The really religious women cover everything up except their face. Also keep in mind that iran isnt an arab country,
 
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ya its a cultural thing i mean the police will check them and make comments at them if they think theyre showing too much, but once they go around the corner theyll pull it back a little bit. u go to a party and girls are going into the bathroom with the jackets and hijabs and theyre coming out in miniskirts and tube tops hair down, plastic surgery and all that. again, theyve learned to live with the restrictions, but i think theyre just tired of living their lives and being relaxed behind closed doors and not being able to express themselves out side. it should be a choice not a law. so i think with this situation thats going on now a lot of the women are going out without roosaris/hijabs and fighting for female rights. this is similar to what we saw in the 60s. one movement sparking another, people seeing that change is a possibility and all these groups try to seize the opportunity.
 
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That means nothing, because they are still a MUSLIM country.
iran is a persian country meaning its culture is persian even though its law or government is islamic, as opposed to arab countries where islam IS their culture. this means that while people may follow the laws of islam, expressing their cultural heritage is more of a priority. there are many iranian people who don't strictly practice islam, especially since the revolution of 79, where "Islam" set back cultural heritage and progress centuries. For example they wanted to destroy Persepolis ruins because they represent kings and queens.
 
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thanks rusto, and also isnt jordan, one of the few countries in the arab world that is starting to have alot more leniency to women? i mean their own queen doesnt wear the hijabs? and shes hot!