NCAA Confernces expanded and disappearing
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9 wins is solid all I'm saying is no one should expect them to be anything other than 3rd or fourth in the conference....
in contrast with the MWC still trying to become an automatic qualifier, which they might be able too soon, they would have been 1 or 2 every year easily there so the move doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
in contrast with the MWC still trying to become an automatic qualifier, which they might be able too soon, they would have been 1 or 2 every year easily there so the move doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I kind of wish utah had stayed in the mountain west. Just to see if the bcs would give them (the MWC) an automatic bid a year or two down the road. Hopefully they can still play those fags down at BYU every year because that's a rivalry like no other. Oh well money talks, it will be nice to travel to L.A, the Bay area, arizona, washington and oregon every year instead of albuquerque, Ft collins, colorado springs, vegas and fucking laramie wyoming...
Whew good riddance.....................
Colorado and Nebraska football programs ain't been shit, since the Big 8 added 4 schools from Texas......
Now that they've jumped ship, the former Big 12 is a more solid conference in football and basketball.......
Wonder what they will call the new conference?????
Colorado and Nebraska football programs ain't been shit, since the Big 8 added 4 schools from Texas......
Now that they've jumped ship, the former Big 12 is a more solid conference in football and basketball.......
Wonder what they will call the new conference?????
Are you being serious? Nebraska was the best team in the North and Colorado, although down, is behind only Nebraska on North division wins (4).
The Big 12 is AWFUL at the moment in Football. TAMU hasn't been relevant in years, Kansas and Mizzou are going back to their usual mediocre selves, Baylor and ISU are PATHETIC, and Okie State cant get out of the shadow of OU and KSU seems to underachieve (or overachieve depending on who you ask) nearly every year. TTU is a gimmick who just lost their "pirate" coach who was the mastermind behind that whole scheme.
Not to mention the hoarding by Texas and the money will be the downfall of the Big12 in a few years. They FUCKED themselves is the basic thesis of this post.
The Big 12 is AWFUL at the moment in Football. TAMU hasn't been relevant in years, Kansas and Mizzou are going back to their usual mediocre selves, Baylor and ISU are PATHETIC, and Okie State cant get out of the shadow of OU and KSU seems to underachieve (or overachieve depending on who you ask) nearly every year. TTU is a gimmick who just lost their "pirate" coach who was the mastermind behind that whole scheme.
Not to mention the hoarding by Texas and the money will be the downfall of the Big12 in a few years. They FUCKED themselves is the basic thesis of this post.
definitely more solid in basketball that is damn sure.
nebraska and colorado haven't done squat in the big 12 since texas and oklahoma came on board regarding football. ofcourse they could manhandle the north division in the early years but once the other teams in the division started to man up finally they weren't nowhere near as good as they used to be.
nebraska and colorado haven't done squat in the big 12 since texas and oklahoma came on board regarding football. ofcourse they could manhandle the north division in the early years but once the other teams in the division started to man up finally they weren't nowhere near as good as they used to be.
Nebraska or Colorado won 9 out of the 14 North Division titles....the North is now down to ISU who never does anything at all...a Kansas and Mizzou team on tha decline and a KSU team who is mediocre at best....Nebraska is coming bacc to prominance after a few years down.....theres no question this is now a better basketball conference but this really hurts tha conference in football
The south is ridiculously stronger than the North....of course they're gonna lose....the North only won the conference 4 times....twice by Nebraska in 97 & 99 colorado once in like 01, and K State won in 03 or 04....when you have to play Texas or Oklahoma in tha title game your chances are slim anyway especially considering they're usually vying for a spot in tha National Championship game....its not like they're playing Baylor in tha Conf Champ game...
IF the Big 12 stays together with only 10 teams, its only a matter of time before they collapse. They have been walking on thin ice since its inception only 14 years ago.[/QUOTE]
you're on point with this cause tommy tuberville just said the samething you was talking about
SportsDayDFW.com
Texas Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville discussed some Big 12 Conference issues during his time as a guest on Rivals Radio, according to Tom Dienhart of Yahoo Sports.
Dienhart said Tuberville, who was once the head coach at both Ole Miss and Auburn, discussed with radio host Bill King how teams are treated more equally in the Southeastern Conference than in the Big 12.
“I don’t think this conference will last long because there is too much disparity between all the teams,” Dienhart reports Tuberville having said on the show. “In the SEC, for instance, Vanderbilt makes as much money in the television contract as Florida. Everybody is good with it. Everybody is on the same page. Everyone gets the same votes.
“That doesn’t happen here in the Big 12. We have some teams that get a little bit more money and have a little it [sic] more stroke than some of the other teams. And when that happens, you’re gonna have teams looking for better avenues to leave and reasons to leave. We have a 10-team league right now, but I just don’t know how long that’s gonna last, to be honest with you.”
you're on point with this cause tommy tuberville just said the samething you was talking about
SportsDayDFW.com
Texas Tech head coach Tommy Tuberville discussed some Big 12 Conference issues during his time as a guest on Rivals Radio, according to Tom Dienhart of Yahoo Sports.
Dienhart said Tuberville, who was once the head coach at both Ole Miss and Auburn, discussed with radio host Bill King how teams are treated more equally in the Southeastern Conference than in the Big 12.
“I don’t think this conference will last long because there is too much disparity between all the teams,” Dienhart reports Tuberville having said on the show. “In the SEC, for instance, Vanderbilt makes as much money in the television contract as Florida. Everybody is good with it. Everybody is on the same page. Everyone gets the same votes.
“That doesn’t happen here in the Big 12. We have some teams that get a little bit more money and have a little it [sic] more stroke than some of the other teams. And when that happens, you’re gonna have teams looking for better avenues to leave and reasons to leave. We have a 10-team league right now, but I just don’t know how long that’s gonna last, to be honest with you.”
Fresno State to join MWC
3:56 p.m.: Fresno State will announce this evening that it has accepted an invitation to join the Mountain West Conference, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Bee this afternoon.3 p.m.: The Mountain West Conference has extended invitations to WAC members Fresno State and Nevada to join the league.
MWC commissioner Craig Thompson is currently traveling and unavailable for comment.
Fresno State President John D. Welty said this afternoon the university could make the jump to the MWC, which formed as a WAC breakaway conference in 1998.
"Fresno State is honored to have received the invitation to join the Mountain West Conference. We are seriously considering the invitation, and do so with the best interests of our Athletics program, our university, our community and Bulldog fans as our top priorities."
Nevada president Milt Glick said his university is also considering the invitation:
"We are honored to have received the invitation to join the Mountain West Conference," Glick said in a news release. "We are seriously considering the invitation, and do so with the best interests of our athletics program, University, community and
Wolf Pack fans as our priority."
The invitations were made public on the Mountain West website this afternoon.
12:53 p.m.: Brigham Young University is leaving the Mountain West Conference, going independent in football and rejoining the Western Athletic Conference in all other sports beginning in fall 2011, The Salt Lake Tribune reported today.
Citing an anonymous source in the WAC office, the newspaper said BYU will seek approval from its owner, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, either today or Thursday.
BYU belonged to the WAC before bolting with other WAC teams to form the Mountain West in 1998.
Read more about the move's possible impacts on Fresno State on the Sports Buzz blog.
Read more: http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/08/18/2045731/fresno-state-to-join-mwc.html#ixzz0x0BXGAID
http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/08/18/2045731/fresno-state-to-join-mwc.html
lazy ass journalist aint no way the schools' presidents could have pretty much said the same exact thing lol...
3:56 p.m.: Fresno State will announce this evening that it has accepted an invitation to join the Mountain West Conference, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Bee this afternoon.3 p.m.: The Mountain West Conference has extended invitations to WAC members Fresno State and Nevada to join the league.
MWC commissioner Craig Thompson is currently traveling and unavailable for comment.
Fresno State President John D. Welty said this afternoon the university could make the jump to the MWC, which formed as a WAC breakaway conference in 1998.
"Fresno State is honored to have received the invitation to join the Mountain West Conference. We are seriously considering the invitation, and do so with the best interests of our Athletics program, our university, our community and Bulldog fans as our top priorities."
Nevada president Milt Glick said his university is also considering the invitation:
"We are honored to have received the invitation to join the Mountain West Conference," Glick said in a news release. "We are seriously considering the invitation, and do so with the best interests of our athletics program, University, community and
Wolf Pack fans as our priority."
The invitations were made public on the Mountain West website this afternoon.
12:53 p.m.: Brigham Young University is leaving the Mountain West Conference, going independent in football and rejoining the Western Athletic Conference in all other sports beginning in fall 2011, The Salt Lake Tribune reported today.
Citing an anonymous source in the WAC office, the newspaper said BYU will seek approval from its owner, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, either today or Thursday.
BYU belonged to the WAC before bolting with other WAC teams to form the Mountain West in 1998.
Read more about the move's possible impacts on Fresno State on the Sports Buzz blog.
Read more: http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/08/18/2045731/fresno-state-to-join-mwc.html#ixzz0x0BXGAID
http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/08/18/2045731/fresno-state-to-join-mwc.html
lazy ass journalist aint no way the schools' presidents could have pretty much said the same exact thing lol...
Nevada, Fresno St to join MWC in 2012
RENO, Nev. (AP)—Nevada and Fresno State have agreed to play one more season in the Western Athletic Conference before transferring to the Mountain West Conference in 2012, but will pay significantly less to make the move than the WAC had demanded, the league said Thursday.
The two schools wanted to make the change next year, but WAC officials filed a lawsuit that said they failed to provide proper notice to leave the league and would owe the WAC a $5 million departure fee.
WAC Commissioner Karl Benson announced Thursday they reached an agreement that allows the schools to make the jump effective June 30, 2012, for a buyout of $900,000 each. That means both of their football and basketball seasons will begin in the Mountain West with the 2012 season.
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Benson said the fee was considerably less than what the WAC felt was warranted but the league decided to settle the dispute now rather than risk being tied up in court for several more months.
“This allows us to proceed with scheduling for 2012,” he told reporters during a teleconference call Thursday morning.
Benson described the negotiations only as “businesslike” and declined to characterize the deal in terms of winners or losers.
“I don’t think I’m prepared to say if it was a good deal or a bad deal,” he said. “It’s time for all parties to move on.”
Nevada and Fresno State announced in July that they had accepted invitations to follow fellow WAC member Boise State to the Mountain West. Boise starts play there next season and both Nevada and Fresno State had indicated they wanted to do the same.
Benson earlier lashed out at Nevada and Fresno State for being “selfish” in deciding to abandon the league to seek their fortune elsewhere. He characterized the two schools as partners in crime who—practically overnight— caused the WAC to go “from having a secure and prosperous future to once again not knowing what the future will hold.”
Benson said on Thursday that the premature loss of the two could have left the WAC with only six schools, jeopardizing bowl ties and automatic bids to NCAA tournaments.
“To have allowed Fresno state or Nevada to leave early would have put the WAC at a tremendous disadvantage,” Benson said. “There was substantial financial risk.”
Benson said the three driving financial factors were the league’s contract with ESPN for football games, potential BCS money and NCAA basketball tournament revenue. Especially in the case of ESPN, he said they believed the WAC would bring in more money with the two schools still in the league in 2011.
“It was critical to the WAC that we continue to be an eight-team league in 2011-12,” he told reporters. “It was something we just could not afford to move off of. It was paramount.”
Benson said he expected decisions to be made over the next month regarding the addition of up to five new schools to the league in the coming years. He said the WAC is determined to field at least eight teams for football each season.
Besides the $900,000, Nevada and Fresno State will forfeit whatever would have been their share of league money for the 2011-12 season, Benson said. Boise State is forfeiting an estimated $750,000 at the close of the 2010-11 season before it leaves, but will keep its share of whatever BCS bowl money it should generate this year, he said.
Nevada athletic director Cary Groth said the Wolf Pack preferred to make the leap to the Mountain West in the fall of 2011 because lame duck conference members do no one any good.
Benson said Thursday he didn’t think that would be a problem.
“This is a lame duck year right now and I certainly haven’t seen any issues thus far,” he said. “It’s part of the process of changing conferences. It can’t happen immediately, overnight. There is a reason we establish notification dates.”
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-waclawsuit
RENO, Nev. (AP)—Nevada and Fresno State have agreed to play one more season in the Western Athletic Conference before transferring to the Mountain West Conference in 2012, but will pay significantly less to make the move than the WAC had demanded, the league said Thursday.
The two schools wanted to make the change next year, but WAC officials filed a lawsuit that said they failed to provide proper notice to leave the league and would owe the WAC a $5 million departure fee.
WAC Commissioner Karl Benson announced Thursday they reached an agreement that allows the schools to make the jump effective June 30, 2012, for a buyout of $900,000 each. That means both of their football and basketball seasons will begin in the Mountain West with the 2012 season.
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Benson said the fee was considerably less than what the WAC felt was warranted but the league decided to settle the dispute now rather than risk being tied up in court for several more months.
“This allows us to proceed with scheduling for 2012,” he told reporters during a teleconference call Thursday morning.
Benson described the negotiations only as “businesslike” and declined to characterize the deal in terms of winners or losers.
“I don’t think I’m prepared to say if it was a good deal or a bad deal,” he said. “It’s time for all parties to move on.”
Nevada and Fresno State announced in July that they had accepted invitations to follow fellow WAC member Boise State to the Mountain West. Boise starts play there next season and both Nevada and Fresno State had indicated they wanted to do the same.
Benson earlier lashed out at Nevada and Fresno State for being “selfish” in deciding to abandon the league to seek their fortune elsewhere. He characterized the two schools as partners in crime who—practically overnight— caused the WAC to go “from having a secure and prosperous future to once again not knowing what the future will hold.”
Benson said on Thursday that the premature loss of the two could have left the WAC with only six schools, jeopardizing bowl ties and automatic bids to NCAA tournaments.
“To have allowed Fresno state or Nevada to leave early would have put the WAC at a tremendous disadvantage,” Benson said. “There was substantial financial risk.”
Benson said the three driving financial factors were the league’s contract with ESPN for football games, potential BCS money and NCAA basketball tournament revenue. Especially in the case of ESPN, he said they believed the WAC would bring in more money with the two schools still in the league in 2011.
“It was critical to the WAC that we continue to be an eight-team league in 2011-12,” he told reporters. “It was something we just could not afford to move off of. It was paramount.”
Benson said he expected decisions to be made over the next month regarding the addition of up to five new schools to the league in the coming years. He said the WAC is determined to field at least eight teams for football each season.
Besides the $900,000, Nevada and Fresno State will forfeit whatever would have been their share of league money for the 2011-12 season, Benson said. Boise State is forfeiting an estimated $750,000 at the close of the 2010-11 season before it leaves, but will keep its share of whatever BCS bowl money it should generate this year, he said.
Nevada athletic director Cary Groth said the Wolf Pack preferred to make the leap to the Mountain West in the fall of 2011 because lame duck conference members do no one any good.
Benson said Thursday he didn’t think that would be a problem.
“This is a lame duck year right now and I certainly haven’t seen any issues thus far,” he said. “It’s part of the process of changing conferences. It can’t happen immediately, overnight. There is a reason we establish notification dates.”
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-waclawsuit