National ID Cards and REAL ID Act

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The Bill

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00418:


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http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/
History
National ID cards have long been advocated as a means to enhance national security, unmask potential terrorists, and guard against illegal immigrants. They are in use in many countries around the world including most European countries, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand. Currently, the United States and the United Kingdom have continued to debate the merits of adopting national ID cards. The types of card, their functions, and privacy safeguards vary widely.

Americans have rejected the idea of a national ID card. When the Social Security Number (SSN) was created in 1936, it was meant to be used only as an account number associated with the administration of the Social Security system. Though use of the SSN has expanded considerably, it is not a universal identifier and efforts to make it one have been consistently rejected. In 1971, the Social Security Administration task force on the SSN rejected the extension of the Social Security Number to the status of an ID card. In 1973, the Health, Education and Welfare Secretary's Advisory Committee on Automated Personal Data Systems concluded that a national identifier was not desirable. In 1976, the Federal Advisory Committee on False Identification rejected the idea of an identifier.

In 1977, the Carter Administration reiterated that the SSN was not to become an identifier, and in 1981 the Reagan Administration stated that it was "explicitly opposed" to the creation of a national ID card. The Clinton administration advocated a “Health Security Card” in 1993 and assured the public that the card, issued to every American, would have “full protection for privacy and confidentiality.” Still, the idea was rejected and the health security card was never created. In 1999 Congress repealed a controversial provision in the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 which gave authorization to include Social Security Numbers on driver's licenses.

In response to the tragic events of Sept. 11, 2001, there has been renewed interest in the creation of national ID cards. Soon after the attacks, Larry Ellison, head of California-based software company Oracle Corporation, called for the development of a national identification system and offered to donate the technology to make this possible. He proposed ID cards with embedded digitized thumbprints and photographs of all legal residents in the U.S. There was much public debate about the issue, and Congressional hearings were held. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich testified that he "would not institute a national ID card because you do get into civil liberties issues." When it created the Department of Homeland Security, Congress made clear in the enabling legislation that the agency could not create a national ID system. In September 2004, then-DHS Secretary Tom Ridge reiterated, "[t]he legislation that created the Department of Homeland Security was very specific on the question of a national ID card. They said there will be no national ID card."

The public continues to debate the issue, and there have been many other proposals for the creation of a national identification system, some through the standardization of state driver's licenses. The debate remains in the international spotlight – several nations are considering implementing such systems. The U.S. Congress recently passed the REAL ID Act of 2005, which mandates federal requirements
 

phil

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Apr 25, 2002
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i dont see whats so spooky about a national id card. seriously. what the fuck does that do give them remote control power over your brain via bluetooth installed on the card or what? seriously why is national id a serious issue?
 

I AM

Some Random Asshole
Apr 25, 2002
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I don't want one...I'd rather live in the middle of nowhere and have to fish and forage for fucking berries than be a slave.
 

I AM

Some Random Asshole
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EDJ said:
^INVASION OF PRIVACY AND A STEP IN FURTHERIN' CONTROLLIN' YOU.

Where in the constitution does it say directly, that the citizens of the United States have the right to privacy...and please don't say the 14th amendment.
 
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Sixxness said:
I don't want one...I'd rather live in the middle of nowhere and have to fish and forage for fucking berries than be a slave.
Lmfao!!

I'd rather build an ox-drawn cart from bamboo and make my own bandages than get a mailing address. Fuckin New World Order and their identification schemes!
 

ReKz

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May 26, 2002
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Sixxness said:
Where in the constitution does it say directly, that the citizens of the United States have the right to privacy...and please don't say the 14th amendment.
It doesn't say it directly, but it does provide some protection to other basic human rights that are not explictly mentioned:

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
 

I AM

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WHITE DEVIL said:
Lmfao!!

I'd rather build an ox-drawn cart from bamboo and make my own bandages than get a mailing address. Fuckin New World Order and their identification schemes!
Fuckin' right.
 

I AM

Some Random Asshole
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ReKz said:
It doesn't say it directly, but it does provide some protection to other basic human rights that are not explictly mentioned:

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
That's just a little bit indirect. It leaves way for too much interpretation.