I'm all about self-responsibility. While whites may have gotten the ball rolling on all of this BS, it's up to us to keep it rolling.
It's all about self-responsibility? So institutional deviance and white privilege don't contribute to instances where self-responsibility is not reality?
We have the opportunity RIGHT NOW to change things for the black community, but unfortunately, not many people are willing to take responsibility for themselves.
What opportunity is that? What change can blacks make RIGHT NOW that will change the playing field and lead to social mobility for the group? What you call "self-responsibility?"
I'm not sure how things are on the west coast, but I live in the south. Down here, you still have guys singing that same ol' slavery crap. People aren't even trying to do anything with their lives and using slavery and Jim Crow as the excuse.
I've said it before on this site and I'll say it again; a lot of folks from the south still think slavery is going on. However, the south doesn't generate as much money as the other states. In fact, I believe Mississippi is the poorest state in the country. So coupled with poverty, institutional deviance, and broken education systems, what can they do with their lives? What opportunities are there?
Booker T. Washington said, "You can't hold a man down without staying down with him." And SO fucking true. Think about it....
Booker T and DuBois were two sides of the same coin. Both served their white masters, just in different capacities. From a logical perspective, that quote is not true, it is easy to hold a man down and not stay down with him. From a spiritual or moral perspective it may hold merit, so how exactly are you looking at it, and how do you expect for a crack baby to look at it?
The rich, powerful white people that are out there living life to the fullest aren't worried about trying to hold some specific group of people down.
Actually they are. The specific group they are trying to hold down are those who are not part of the in-group. You're either "in" or you're "out."
If they were, they would never have gotten far.
This is highly illogical. Empires are built at the expense of other people, people that have been targeted and held down so one group can have the advantage. What happened to the Natives?
But those back of the wood rednecks who spent damn near their entire lives tormenting blacks....where are they? They're living even worst than the people they tried to oppress.
In some cases yes, however, you seem to imply that only back of the wood rednecks are the ones who have tormented blacks and this is far from reality. Let’s focus on members of congress, senators, judges, prosecutors, police officers, teachers, doctors, etc.
It's like wrestling a dude and pinning him down. While you're holding him down, you can't focus on anything else except keeping him pinned down. You won't be able to do anything -- no food, no bathroom, no time with your kids & family, etc. -- all because you have to focus on keeping this guy pinned down.
Now let's look at that again but let’s change it from wrestling to a black woman in a poverty stricken area to holding down a job.
It's like a black woman holding down a job. While she's holding it down, she can't focus on anything else except keeping it. She won't be able to do anything -- no healthy lunch, no extended breaks like her white counterparts, no time with her kids & family, etc. -- all because she has to focus on keeping the job.
Do you see how that contributes to the problem?
The same logic applies to "the white man holding us down." Which is why rednecks are where they are and the rich, powerful whites are where they are. For the record, slavery itself wasn't a race thing...it was a business thing. For some reason, the small town rednecks never quite understood that.
The same "logic", if we can even call it that, does not apply to "the white man holding us down." Rich whites are where they are because they had resources, ascribed status, operate in the world of white privilege and see no problem with taking advantage of others. Rednecks and upward social mobility is a pipe dream because they lack ascribed status and resources to take advantage of a group and have
influence when it comes to major policy.
Back to my original point. Blacks are gonna have to quit looking for someone to blame and start taking full responsibility.We talk about being a "strong" group of people. But it's impossible to be strong when you're not willing to take full responsibility for yourself and your life.
How does one start taking full responsibility?
Black people give the "white man" too much credit and too much power. It's pretty weak to put your destiny in control of someone else. No one is telling these guys to commit crimes. But, in our community, people praise ignorance and stupidity.
Praising ignorance and stupidity is not exclusive to the black community. However, when it comes to such things, what separates the black community from other communities is that other communities are more open to ostracizing those who do so. In regards to telling someone to commit crimes, the system and the lack of opportunities force many people to do it. All? No. A lot? Yes.
The black man who spends his life running the street and doing jail time is a hero.
Because the younger black kid, in the hood has
access to the guy spending his life running the streets and doing jail time. You grew up in the hood? What did you see?
But we don't praise the black man whose running some Fortune 500 Company. He's labeled a sellout, an Uncle Tom, etc.
We don't praise him because we don't have access to him. Is he in the hood? If you go to his office and drop off an application, chances are you'll be escorted out of the building. As far as labeling him an Uncle Tom? No, and people who usually use the term do so in an incorrect context. Sambo would be more appropriate, and if it's a Boule ass nigga, yes, he is a sellout, fuck him and all that ride with him. But not all blacks who are in the corporate world are like that, but if your ass is Boule,
FUCK YOU.
If anything, the low-life black man should be labeled a sellout because he's doing nothing but setting a bad example for the younger generation.
Are his actions due to circumstance or not? Ask yourself that question.
Everyone who praises the low-life black man is also setting a bad example for the young black generation. Basically telling them that as a black man, you're supposed to be a street thug. And by being a street thug, you'll get respect, money, cars, women, etc. It also doesn't help that when young black kids have dreams of being doctors, lawyers, engineers, business owners, politicians, etc., there's usually some idiot around them that instantly shoots their dream down...
One of my nephews is in college in Spain right now. His younger brother was just accepted to Cornell. Both are pursuing their dreams and guess who it was that was shooting their dreams down?
NON-BLACKS. The entire family, even the ones who are involved in things they need to leave alone, were supportive and encouraging. I have a niece in Idaho, she was in the paper not too long ago for designing weaves and hair for chemo patients because her aunt (my sister) died of cancer and she wanted to contribute. Guess who was hating? NON-BLACKS.
So don't walk away from this thread thinking that only blacks try to shoot blacks down, hell no.
which leads them to think that the streets is the only way. Instead of telling our young people what they can't do, we need to start telling them what they can do.
In essence, your premise boils down to who black youth look to as role models and leaders.
Think about that for a bit.