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The Kimbo Slice Bubble

What happens when a bubble bursts? The truth is it all depends on the size of the bubble.

Economists generally agree that when a bubble -- the growth of a market into illusory territory unrepresentative of its actual value -- bursts, the market returns to where it originally started before the bubble grew. In MMA, losses can be forgiven and deft showmanship can carry weight for a fighter with less than world-beater skills. But in reality there is a finite amount of push a fighter can receive even from the best marketing machine without some form of in-ring accolades to validate the hype … or is there?

If there is any professional fighter in North American MMA whose popularity is borderline inversely proportional to his achievements in professional competition, the much-ballyhooed former street brawler turned MMA fighter Kimbo Slice tops the ballot.

For MMA, Slice has trailblazed uncharted territory. Never before has a fighter made such a deep cultural imprint and rose to heights of popularity reserved only for the benighted current or future hall of famers so quickly without notching a single win over a sturdy challenger. There are real justifications for his popularity, to be sure, but there is also valid concern that the architecture that built his success could be shown to be a house of cards under the right pressure.

The pertinent issue then becomes whether or not Slice is the beneficiary of his own popularity bubble. And if he is, is Ken Shamrock the dose of reality set to bring Slice -- and the organization he fights for -- back to a significantly more humbled reality? Forecasting such a future is difficult, but one matter is beyond reproach: The results could be ugly.

All of this posturing begs the obvious question: Probability of the outcome aside, what happens if Kimbo loses to Shamrock this Saturday on CBS? In fairness to Slice and this new territory his popularity has created, nothing is certain. Slice, like Chuck Liddell following his devastating loss to Rashad Evans at UFC 88, could be forgiven by fans and pundits alike. Many could extend to Slice the common MMA courtesy: Losing is part of the game and happens to the best of them; Slice is no different.

All things being equal, however, that isn’t likely to happen. Unlike Slice, Liddell’s popularity and image is partly tied to the healthy organizational juggernaut that is the Ultimate Fighting Championship. More importantly, Liddell’s reputation is based not just on stellar knockouts but on knockout wins over a Who’s Who list of the sport’s preeminent stars in its marquee division. Liddell has built up positive equity in the bank of image and prestige by scoring major victories over some of the toughest opponents on planet Earth year after year. Slice has yet to achieve such a victory even once.

What is more likely to happen is the unthinkable for EliteXC: Slice’s popularity and true prowess -- a ticket sales and television draw powerhouse -- could be deflated overnight.

Slice’s appeal in MMA is positioned as the menacing hit man and bruiser. Unlike the well-rounded and tested finesse of UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre, Slice is generally revered for one talent: dispatching opponents with his irreconcilable might. Fans enjoy watching Slice’s frightening power and cold-bloodedness overtake his opponents like they’re prey. The obvious problem is that if that invincible might were shown to be little more than a brittle veneer, there are serious doubts fans will regard Slice as the human wrecking machine they believe he is now.

And if that were to happen, Slice could find himself in an extremely precarious situation. He currently commands comparatively large paydays, but that is based almost solely on his ability to draw fans to watch him compete. Should that ability be compromised, Slice could find himself garnering paydays that more accurately represent the meaningfulness of his particular fight rather than his ability to attract fans to the arena or television set.

Then again, even a battered and mentally unstable Mike Tyson -- a boxer similarly revered for his ability to take his opponents’ lunch money with impunity -- was still able to collect a few paychecks long after his image had been tarnished before ignobly calling it quits on a stool in what was then known as the MCI Center in Washington, D.C.

The more dire and realistic consequence would be how Slice’s fall from grace affects the struggling EliteXC promotion and its parent company, ProElite. A recent SEC filing by ProElite revealed the company has accrued massive debt in its two years of operations to the tune of roughly $55 million. Worse, that same filing indicated ProElite needed a $3.5 million loan simply to stay in immediate business, but was only able to collect a $1 million loan from Showtime. Consequently, if ProElite is unable to repay the loan including interest by June 18, 2009, Showtime will have “first priority interest on the assets of the Company.” And don’t forget about EliteXC’s July CBS effort, which garnered a 43-percent drop in ratings from the inaugural launch that included Slice this past May. To say matters are dismal would be a generous description.

Stated plainly: EliteXC’s survival is contingent upon Slice in a way no other MMA promotion is reliant upon any of their stars. While EliteXC is possessive of a valuable if incomplete roster of fighters, none save female superstar Gina Carano are able at all to deliver ratings, DVD purchases or ticket sales. And while there is no doubting the power of Carano, it’s not at all clear she can carry the struggling promotion without Slice doing much of the heavy lifting (Slice is, after all, the main event).

Chuck Liddell is incontestably the face of the UFC, but not its backbone. The UFC needs its stars, dramas and epic bouts as any other promotions does, but the massive divisions, cultural identity, vast array of supremely talented fights and most notably, its “sink or swim” attitude toward its fighters provides the UFC enough insurance in the event of disaster. Unlike the banks on Wall Street, no one fighter in the UFC is too big to fail. That isn’t to say there isn’t blowback when favored sons lose or that there aren’t favored sons at all, but there is enough cushion outside of any one fighter’s career or success to soften virtually any blow.

For the sake of EliteXC and his own career, Slice has no option but to win on Saturday. He could find a lifeboat at Affliction or another promotion even if the U.S.S. EliteXC was to sink, but UFC President Dana White has made it quite clear that his opinion of Slice is exceptionally low. While some suggest White is too adept to foolishly let a marketing and ratings machine go to a rival company, he seemingly had no qualms about allowing Tito Ortiz to find employment elsewhere upon the expiration of his contract this past August. White is simultaneously brilliant and petulant, and after he told everyone who would listen that the UFC lightweight champion would easily smash heavyweight Slice in a fight, the prospect of Slice donning UFC-labeled gloves is arguably quite remote.

Slice must recognize he is very much the master of his own future. He has the unique ability to deflate the bubble around him without much collateral damage. Should he soundly defeat Shamrock on Saturday and subsequently silence perennial detractor and authentic challenger Brett Rogers, Slice could conceivably lay the groundwork for not only a prosperous career but also the ability to be forgiven for his fighting imperfections. If Slice can demonstrate that he’s technically worked through his MMA infancy and adolescence, a loss to a real opponent or the demise of his current employer will likely not cause him irreparable harm. In fact, Slice could conceivably achieve a rarefied air even Liddell himself never enjoyed.

But if Slice loses and the bubble of his popularity -- popularity based on an image that his performances must uphold -- bursts, the Kimbo-Slice market could return to where it was before the bubble grew, leaving Slice’s icon status and the skeleton of EliteXC in its wake.
 
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Affliction VP: Fedor Emelianenko not fighting on New Year's Eve

While it is still unknown when WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko will return to action, one date can certainly be removed from consideration.

Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio recently told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that he has been assured by Emelianenko's management team that the Russian will not be appearing on New Year's Eve for DREAM -- or any organization.

"I've been told actually 100 percent that he is not fighting on New Year's Eve," Atencio said. "[The members of Emelianenko's management team] are our partners. We have extended his contract, and that's where we're at."

Emelianenko has fought on year-ending cards in Japan annually since 2003. A recent appearance by Emelianenko in Japan at DREAM.6 fueled speculation that the 32-year-old was looking to keep that tradition alive.

Atencio said the speculation was not based in fact.

"I spoke with [Emelianenko's managers] the other day, and they said he is not fighting," Atencio said. "So that's just rumors."

Atencio said all signs point to Emelianenko returning at Affliction's second show, "Day of Reckoning."

"It looks like it's on the next show, for sure," Atencio said.

An exact date and venue for "Day of Reckoning" has not yet been determined, but the event is expected to be held early in 2009. And while an opponent for the world's top heavyweight has not yet been determined, Atencio said one name can certainly be ruled out.

"It was supposed to be Josh Barnett, but they turned it down," Atencio said. "So we're working on something right now."
 
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Affliction admits it "would be dumb" to go head to head with UFC

The recent announcement by the UFC of a Jan. 17 event in Dublin, Ireland, could be construed as the latest salvo in a battle to crush upstart promoters Affliction.

The UFC began its counter-programming assault on Affliction from the very start, airing "UFC Fight Night: Silva vs. Irvin" live on Spike TV the same night as Affliction's debut pay-per-view, "Banned."

Affliction had originally suggested it would hold its rescheduled second event, "Day of Reckoning," in Anaheim, Calif., on that same date. But Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio recently suggested to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that Jan. 17 may now be off the table.

"[The UFC's announcement] didn't force us (to change dates), but it definitely -- it would be dumb for us to go head to head with them," Atencio said. "Personally I think it's dumb for both of us. Whether it's half or a quarter of the people, they're going to go for one side or the next. The chances of people getting both are going to be slim and none."

Atencio said Affliction is close to finalizing the date and venue for their long-awaited second show, but would not confirm any of the details at this time.

"We're in the process of looking at a venue and a date," Atencio said. "But until I actually have the contract signed and everything is in stone, I'm just not going to let anybody know."

Much of the originally scheduled "Day of Reckoning" card is subject to change considering the minimum-three-month delay between the original October timeframe and the new as-yet-unannounced date.

Affliction's loaning of Andrei Arlovski and Roy Nelson to tomorrow night's "EliteXC: Heat" card would seem to suggest the possibility of the inclusion of at least a few EliteXC fighters on the card, but Atencio would not commit to any EliteXC involvement at this time.

"I don't know," Atencio said regarding the possibility. "I never know what the future holds. I just try and work from one project to the next. I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't predict the future, but I know that we're willing as an organization to work with people."

Of course, Affliction's recent partnering with Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions also presents a myriad of potential opportunities as well. Atencio said he is deferring to the expert track record of that promotion, and looks forward to announcing all of the details very soon.

"We're working with Golden Boy," Atencio said. "And Golden Boy, they have the expertise. They've been in the boxing industry for quite some time. So they know how to put shows together. We'll sit down with them, and once we all come to an agreement, then I'll let everybody know."
 
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EliteXC expecting record gate for Saturday's "Heat" event

SUNRISE, Fla. -- EliteXC has released additional tickets for Saturday night's "EliteXC: Heat" event, which airs live on CBS, and the organization is now expecting the highest gate in company history.

The company issued a press release on Thursday stating that "due to overwhelming demand," more seating sections had been opened and more ticket had been released.

EliteXC Head of Fight Operations Jeremy Lappen today elaborated on the details of the additional seating with MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

"Basically, the demand has been so strong, there's been so many people, that we've opened up sections," Lappen said. "The way we had the arena scaled is we have the curtained-off horseshoe, which is what we normally do. We actually had to move the curtain back and expand those sections and started selling those seats, as well, because we just keep selling out of the sections we opened up. We ran out of $30 seats, so we're opening up sections, and they just keep selling out as we open them out."

Saturday's event features a headline bout of Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Ken Shamrock. Additionally, Jake Shields defends his EliteXC welterweight title against Paul Daley, Affliction fighters Andrei Arlovski and Roy Nelson meet in a heavyweight bout, and Gina Carano takes on Kelly Kobold-Gavin.

The evening's venue, the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla., is home to the NHL's Florida Panthers. The arena can seat 19,250 for a hockey game. EliteXC will be using a much smaller setup for "Heat."

"We had it scaled originally to right around 7,200 (seats) when we started," Lappen said. "It's now scaled closer to 8,000, and we may open a little more seats beyond that as well. ... Everything except for the very top bowl is open."

Lappen would not predict whether or not the the event would be a sell out with the new configuration.

"It's going to be full," Lappen said. "I'm hoping that it's a sell out. It's going to be very full.

"There may be one or two seats here and there. But the lower-priced seats are all selling very fast. The upper-priced seats are selling very fast. There's more demand for the $1,000 seats and the $700 seats than we have tickets, which is great. So it's going to be full.

"This will be the biggest gate that we've done."
 
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ALL ON THE LINE, SHIELDS DEFENDING ELITEXC BELT

Jake Shields is perhaps the most underrated fighter in the world. He is the No. 5 ranked welterweight, according to the MMAWeekly.com World MMA Rankings. He has impressive victories over Carlos Condit, Yushin Okami, and Renato Verissimo. He is the current EliteXC welterweight champion and will defend his belt on Saturday night against Paul Daley.

Shields was heavily rumored to take on top middleweight Matt Lindland in the October Affliction show. Unfortunately, the Affliction show was postponed to January and left Shields an opportunity to defend his title on EliteXC's Saturday Night Fights.

“Initially I was a little disappointed for a couple days because I had my mind set on that Lindland fight,” he explained recently on MMAWeekly Radio. “In retrospect, I'm certainly glad this is what I did. After a couple days, I realized fighting on CBS is obviously a huge opportunity to get my name out there and the fact that the Affliction card got postponed made me really happy that I went with this fight.”

EliteXC is in need of an impressive card and high ratings in order to keep their company on a progressive path. They have really beefed up their card pitting Kimbo Slice and Ken Shamrock against each other, which is sure to garner some interest. They are also putting popular stars Gina Carano and Andrei Arlovski on the card, as well as their welterweight champion. Shields believes that this card is fantastic and would definitely watch it, even if he weren't on the card. “This is the best card I ever fought on, I think. I would definitely be happy to watch these fights as a fan. I like every fight on the card myself. I'm excited to be a part of this.”

Daley is a seasoned veteran and deserves much respect for the impressive career he has had to this point. However, Shields isn't changing much in his camp in preparation for his upcoming bout. “My training camp is pretty much the same as always. I always do slight changes depending on who I'm fighting and I'm always trying to evolve and get better. Pretty much the Caesar Gracie camp. I feel in great shape. My training camp went great. I'm looking to smash this guy.”

Daley has some very deadly stand up and has a laundry list of knockout victims. Respecting his opponent’s knockout power, Shields will make sure that he gets the fight in a position that will earn him the victory.

“He obviously has phenomenal stand up. He probably has some of the best stand up in MMA. I'll focus on my stand up obviously, but I'm also going to work on my takedowns,” he explained. “This is a guy I want to put on his back and submit him.”

This fight has had its share of trash talk, especially from Daley. He was recently on MMAWeekly Radio and had this to say about the outcome of the fight, “Semtex is going to do what Semtex does. I'm coming to punch your head off. Jake, you better keep your guard up. Watch the knees when you're shooting in. After I knock you out, just smile, shake my hand, and we'll have a beer and whatever.”

Shields believes that Daley is only saying that out of fear. “I think Paul is a little scared,” he said. “That's why he's out there running his mouth. He's trying to get me to go after him to play his game. I'm a seasoned vet. I'm not stupid. I'm not going to go out there and lose my cool. He's just trying to find a way to get me psyched out. It isn't going to work.”

Even though Shields has been working on his standup, he knows that his main advantage won't be on the feet, but on the ground. “That's not my game plan to go out there and look for a knockout. I want to get a knockout sooner or later. I want to show the world what I can do. In my opinion, this would be the wrong guy to showcase my stand up skills against. I'll stand with him for a minute, put him on his back, and hopefully submit him.”

Daley isn't really known for his high level jiu-jitsu game and that's why Shields is planning on taking him down. “I have a feeling that he hasn't rolled with anyone in my caliber. In England, they just don't have the same level jiu-jitsu as they do in America.”

If Shields is successful in his fight against Daley, he may move up in weight or even move on to another organization. “As long as I go out there and win this fight, I'm going to be getting good offers from different shows. I have a great relationship with the UFC. I have a great relationship with Affliction. I have really good talks going on with them.”

However, he isn't ruling out a chance to stay with his current promotion either. “There's a good chance that EliteXC will last,” commented Shields. “I hope they do. They treat me good. I'm their champ. I'm not too worried if they fall apart, I'll find a home somewhere.”

First thing's first, Shields has to get past Daley in order to move on in his already illustrious career. Feeling confident, he believe he will end the fight with a submission. “I have a feeling I'm going to catch a rear naked choke. Something's telling me.”
 
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STRIKEFORCE: BUSINESS AS USUAL FOR SPRATT

“The Secret Weapon” Pete Spratt isn’t one to try to be sneaky with his game plan heading into fights. As he puts it, “My game plan is always the same, just as their game plan is always the same: they’re going to try to take me down, and I’m going to try to strike.”

That is the creed of the former Ultimate Fighting Championship veteran who will be making his first appearance in the Strikeforce promotion this Friday night against Donnie Liles on the outskirts of Denver in Broomfield, Colo.

“It’s nothing new going into this fight,” he continued. “For me it’s all the same fight every time. Whether they’re young or old, veteran or not, it’s the same fight – it doesn’t matter who it is.”

Indeed, it’s business as usual for Spratt, and that’s why he remains a fan favorite, even when heading into the hometown of his opponent.

“I’ve got quite a fan base in the Denver area,” stated Spratt. “It’s been a while since I fought out here, so I’m excited about that.”

Another thing that rarely changes for him is the fact that for the most part, he doesn’t worry about who is across the cage from him, should he even know who it is he is fighting.

“I don’t have a clue who the guy is, to be quite honest with you,” he admitted of Donnie Liles. “I did some research about him on-line and found out he’s got quite a few fights and is an IFL vet, so he’s definitely got the experience and it should be an interesting match-up.”

What is different about this fight from his recent activity is the fact that Spratt has slowed down his activity rate prior to this match-up so he could recharge and be ready for a late year push.

“I took some time off after the fight with (John) Alessio, and had about four months off since I last fought,” he said. “I needed a break.

“I had been fighting every month-and-a-half since last September, so I needed a break and I’m excited to get back in there and see what happens.”

As is always the case for Spratt, much akin to his fight strategy, his future goals remain unwavering.

“I’m just looking back to get back on the winning path and see what happens from there,” he reiterated. “I think I’ve got a few more big years in front of me. We’ll just take it one fight at a time, starting with Friday night and get back into the win column.”

For better or worse, Spratt is an unchanging constant in this ever-shifting landscape of MMA. That’s why fans love him, opponents respect him, and he continues to be a fighter you can bank on every time to bring it, win or lose.

“I’d like to thank my sponsors: Tapout, NoSubmit.com, Pain Inc., Affliction, Xtreme Couture, and Fight2Train.com,” closed out Spratt. “I’d also like to thank all the guys who’ve helped me train, my boxing coach Jesse James Leija, and my BJJ coach Rodrigo Pinheiro.

“I want the Denver fans to come out and see some exciting fights. There’s 12 fights on the card, so it’s going to be a great night of fighting.”
 
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PAUL DALEY LOOKING TO CAPTURE ELITEXC GOLD

Paul “Semtex” Daley looks to bring home a new championship belt to England on Saturday night when he faces Jake Shields on CBS-EliteXC Saturday Night Fights. He is a seasoned veteran who has an impressive 18-6 record in mixed martial arts.

Daley has spent the majority of his career fighting for Cage Rage in England. He has notable wins over Mark Weir, Duane Ludwig and Ultimate Fighter alumnus Sam Morgan, all via TKO stoppages. Daley has been training for his fight in Holland with Melvin Manhoef and has had a very tough training camp in preparation for Shields.

“It's hard,” Daley said in an interview with MMAWeekly. “I've been training out there for the Grand Prix. Melvin didn't do so well, but the training that we put in was really intense. Lots of conditioning, lots of kickboxing as you'd expect; hard sparring with Melvin Manhoef. We had a whole bunch of guys come through the camp. It was awesome.”

When the English fighter was first offered the fight, he initially didn't accept it due to a long layoff and the caliber of fighter that Shields is. However, he was able to take a tune-up fight against Bojan Kosednar and was victorious via knockout. Now he feels ready to take on the highly respected Shields.

“I was real happy,” explained Daley. “First they offered it to me and I said, 'no, I'm not really ready.' But I had a good fight over in the U.K., obviously because I was off for four or five months. I fought against a real tough guy and knocked him out. I thought, 'OK, bring on Jake Shields.' When I was given the fight, I was real excited because this is a fight that you really have to train for because Jake is no joke.”

If “Semtex” is successful in defeating Shields, he sees the situation as both a positive and a negative considering that EliteXC's welterweight division is a little thin on top talent. However, he is willing to trim down to 160-pounds to compete for that belt.

“It's going to be awesome. At the same time it presents some problems. Most of the Top 10 guys are in the UFC. Getting there is going to be a problem. Hopefully, there will be some guys coming up that I can find. It's a difficult situation in the division. Or maybe now that the 160 belt is free, maybe I'll take that as well. Nick Diaz is out there, Eddie Alvarez.... there's a lot of opportunities in EliteXC.”

The American fans have had a limited viewing of Daley's fights. For those who aren't familiar with him, he has had many exciting fights and displays an outgoing personality. Predominantly a stand-up fighter, many fans have enjoyed watching his dynamic striking game and he believes that they are ready to watch him attempt to knockout Shields.

“I think they are ready. They had a taste with Duane Ludwig. Then they had the spectacle of the super elbow of Sam Morgan. They are going to see something special. Either way they are going to love me or hate me. Hopefully they are going to love me when I kick his head into the stands,” he said, only half-jokingly.

One thing that Daley isn't concerned with is the game plan that Shields intends on implementing. However, he is aware that Shields will try to take the fight to the ground.

“I don't really care what he's going to do. Obviously I know what he's going to do. I know his fighting style. I'm just going to do what I'm going to do. Let him worry about that. I don't really care what he wants to do. If he wants to strike, then we'll strike. If he wants to take me down, then take me down. But he'll have to be ready for me coming to him. I don't give a (expletive) what he's going to do. I'm going to beat him.”

Although Daley has a lack of concern for his opponent’s potential strategy, it doesn't mean he won't have one of his own. His game plan is rather simple.

“I have my game plan, which is pretty simple. It's to finish the fight by knockout or having the ref drag me off him. Real simple. Semtex is going to do what Semtex does. I'm coming to punch your head off. Jake, you better keep your guard up. Watch the knees when you're shooting in. After I knock you out, just smile, shake my hand and we'll have a beer and whatever.”
 
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UFC Quick Quote: Marcus Davis is going to float and sting against Paul Kelly at UFC 89

“I think his plan will be to throw big thumping punches to get me to clinch with him, I’m just not gonna do it…. I’ve got the longer reach, I’m an inch taller, I’m gonna smash him with jabs, he’s gonna reach for me, I’m gonna move. Every time he drops his head I’m gonna smash him with an uppercut and every time he straightens up I’m gonna smash him with punches. He’s gonna be chasing me around the ring, every time he swings I won’t be there. I can not only hit hard coming forward, I can hit hard on the slide. A lot of people have a tough time punching hard on the move, but that’s all I’ve been working on in this camp. I’ve just been working on throwing bombs while on the move. It’s gonna be a frustrating fight for him, I’m gonna catch every time he reaches, every time he gets desperate, he’ll be chasing as I lead the fight and that’s when I’ll finish it.”
 
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Roy Nelson: ‘I put myself ahead of Arlovski’

“I put myself ahead of Arlovski for the pure fact that I bring a more complete package. He’s great at what he does. He’s a phenomenal striker, but lax at grappling…. My physique works for me. I consider myself like 75 percent of the Americans out there. I give 100 percent. And I like food…. I’m looking for that big endorsement, like Taco Bell, Pizza Hut or McDonald’s. Maybe after this fight, I’ll do a cookbook.”
 
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Saturday’s co-promotion between EliteXC and Affliction could be the start of something beautiful… or something ugly

On Saturday night the MMA world will get to witness a former UFC heavyweight title holder taking on the final reigning IFL heavyweight champion representing Affliction in an EliteXC cage and beamed to the United States on CBS’ airwaves.

Isn’t that what MMA should be all about: promotions working together in order to bring the best fights possible to the viewing public on a widely-viewed platform?

It remains to be seen whether EliteXC and Affliction reap financial benefits from Saturday’s agreement to showcase Affliction’s Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson during the third installment of CBS’ Saturday Night Fights. However, it’s already a certainty that one group that will benefit are MMA fans.

Already a good show on paper with matches between Benji Radach vs. Murilo “Ninja” Rua, Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobold, Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley, and Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock slated, the addition of Arlovski vs. Nelson easily makes tomorrow night’s edition of SNF the show’s best lineup on paper to date.

But looking beyond Saturday, an alliance between EliteXC and Affliction has the potential to create a clear-cut number two promotion to the UFC, something which the industry has lacked for quite some time. However, despite initial reports to the contrary, sources speaking on the conditioning of anonymity have revealed to FiveOuncesOfPain.com that there is no agreement in place for the two companies to work together past Saturday.

Yet sources have also indicated that all parties are open to the idea of working together in the future. As of now, everyone involved wants to gauge how Saturday goes before any decisions are made moving forward.

If Saturday proves to be a fruitful endeavor for both companies, the framework to do something bigger may already be in place. Both EliteXC and Affliction had been speaking for slightly over six weeks before last week’s accord was announced. Five Ounces of Pain also learned this week that the agreement to do add Arlovski vs. Nelson to the card was a relatively small item compared to other proposals that had been discussed.

One future option that had been discussed informally was the possibility of televising Affliction’s January event on either CBS or Showtime. As of now, Fedor is Affliction’s biggest drawing card. But the promotion would like him to become an even bigger star and a source indicated this past week that the feeling is the exposure that network television provides could do wonders for Fedor’s stock in the U.S.

A possible co-promotional telecast in January is apparently just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to possible ways in which the two fight promotions could collaborate. But again, whether we ever see Affliction and EliteXC work together all comes down to Saturday. And there are no guarantees that everything will run smoothly.

While I’ve seen nothing specifically to suggest that Affliction and EliteXC officials can’t co-exist, past history could be working against them. After all, Saturday’s alliance between them is not a first in MMA. A strong case can be made that there’s never been a co-promotion of this magnitude but there’s also no argument when it comes to the fact that a co-promotional accord has never lasted for an extended period of time.

What cannot be ignored is the fact that the track record of promotions working together in MMA flat out sucks. Shall we review?

The UFC and PRIDE had worked together in the past before the demise of the Japanese-based promotion and Zuffa’s eventual acquisition. In 2003, the UFC sent both Chuck Liddell and Ricco Rodriguez to compete in the rings of PRIDE.

The UFC, which was not running monthly events at the time, was looking to increase its global presence so it loaned Liddell and Rodriguez without receiving anything tangible in return.

Liddell was a participant in PRIDE’s middleweight Grand Prix tournament, defeating Alistair Overeem in the first round before a dream match between him and Wanderlei Silva was spoiled by Quinton “Rampage” Jackson in the second round.

On the same night that Liddell advanced at “Total Elimination,” Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira also won a unanimous decision over Rodriguez, who was sent over to Japan by UFC officials after losing the UFC heavyweight title to Tim Sylvia at UFC 41.

The decision to loan Liddell and Rodriguez to PRIDE reaped few benefits. Not only did the two lose, but the UFC never ended up featuring any of PRIDE’s talent on its shows. It wasn’t until 2006 when the two promotions attempted to work together again. With PRIDE in desperate need of attention of U.S. exposure, they sent Silva to participate in a pre-arranged stare down with Liddell following Liddell’s win over Renato “Babalu” Sobral at UFC 61.

While a dream fight between Silva and Liddell was announced after framework of a deal had been put into place, the match never came to fruition during PRIDE’s existence. Plans to work together began to unravel after PRIDE and UFC officials could not agree on the duration of Silva’s tenure with the UFC.

EliteXC and Strikeforce have promoted two shows together in the past, but the partnership between the two has been an uneasy one. The decision to work together actually stemmed from a settlement negotiated by lawyers after Strikeforce sued EliteXC in 2007 for torturous interference after the San Jose-based promotion claimed Elite violated its contract with Frank Shamrock.

Shamrock had been scheduled to fight Phil Baroni for Strikeforce in April of that year and apparently had a clause in Shamrock’s contract that he could not fight for anyone before the Baroni fight had taken place. Either Shamrock didn’t know the terms of his own contract, or the lure of being a headliner on the first-ever MMA telecast on premium-cable network SHOWTIME was too great to ignore, because he signed with EliteXC to fight Renzo Gracie in February anyway.

When EliteXC and Strikeforce have worked together, the result has been two of the best shows both companies have ever promoted. But putting on quality fight cards didn’t equate to better profits as the Shamrock vs. Baroni pay-per-view numbers were disappointing and while March’s main event between Shamrock and Cung Le drew a strong rating, a viewing universe can only be so large on a premium-cable channel such as SHOWTIME.

Both EliteXC and Strikeforce are contracted to work together one more time but whether that happens remains to be seen. The alliance between the two is so uneasy that Strikeforce promoter Scott Coker refused to be seen with then-EliteXC Live Events President Gary Shaw during press events in San Jose the week leading up to the Shamrock vs. Le show.

There have also been smaller partnerships that went nowhere. When HDNet Fights needed a replacement to challenge Jason “Mayhem” Miller last December, they received permission from the IFL to use Tim Kennedy even though he was slated to fight for the IFL at the end of the month. The two companies would end up working together again as broadcast partners but the impact of the decision to loan out Kennedy was minimal, as HDNet Fights is no longer promoting shows and the IFL filed for bankruptcy last month.

And who could forget when K-1 HERO’s, EliteXC, Strikeforce, BodogFIGHT, Cage Rage, and Spirit MC all announced a “super-alliance” in response to Zuffa’s announcement that it had acquired PRIDE? Oh wait, you did forget? Could that be because the fight company orgy fell a part almost immediately after it was announced? All that the announced alliance produced was FEG hiring EliteXC to help promote a debacle of a stadium show in Los Angeles known as “Dynamite USA!!”

There are many proponents in MMA that believe in order for the sport to grow that companies need to work with each other as opposed to against each other. I can’t say I disagree but thus far, companies coming together in the best interest of the sport has been nothing more than a Utopian dream. The concept of partnerships in MMA usually make a lot of sense on paper, but when it comes time to execute a working relationship, politics and logistics usually leads to unfulfilled expectations.

The reality is that on the surface there is almost no downside between Affliction and EliteXC working together in bringing fans a match between Arlovski vs. Nelson on free television. But with both companies struggling financially, one match isn’t going to save the day for either promotion. The two could stand to do more and Saturday could be the start of something beautiful… or something ugly.
 
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Tim Creduer vs. Nate Loughran confirmed for UFC Fight Night 16: “UFC Fights for the Troops”

A rumored middleweight bout between Tim Credeur and Nate Loughran is now set for UFC Fight Night 16: “UFC Fights for the Troops” on Dec. 10, sources close to the fighters have revealed exclusively to FiveOuncesOfPain.com.

UFN 16, which is scheduled to emanate from Fayetteville, North Carolina, is also expected to feature bouts between welterweights Mike Swick and Jonathan Goulet as well as former WEC light heavyweights Brian Stann and Steve Cantwell.

Credeur is a veteran from the seventh season of “The Ultimate Fighter” and made his official UFC debut during UFC Fight Night 13 in Las Vegas on July 19. Facing fellow cast member Cale Yarbrough, Credeur won via TKO due to punches at 1:54 of round 1.

Loughran made his debut on the same card and improved his record to 9-0 following a first round submission against Johnny Rees. The win was Loughran’s eight career submission and not only preserved his perfect record but also kept alive his streak of having finished all of his opponents inside the distance.
 
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Exclusive: EliteXC Still Working On Noons Vs. Diaz

Sources close to both the KJ Noons camp and Nick Diaz camp have told MMANews.com that a possible remtach between Noons and Diaz is still being worked on.

EliteXC had been working to make the fight happen on their show this weekend (Oct 4th) but were unable to come to terms with Noons. The company eventually stripped him off the lightweight title he had initially won in a vacant title fight against Diaz in 2007. The reasoning behind taking the title was the fact that EliteXC felt Noons was ducking Diaz.

Since then, rumors have swirled that a possible lightweight match up between Diaz and Philadelphia's Eddie Alvarez could be part of Elite's November card to decide the now vacant title. Although this match up has been proposed to the fighters, the Diaz camp says that nothing has been signed.

According to the source, KJ Noons is still refusing to fight Diaz but the Elite is still pusing for the fight.

Noons has been very open about his disagreements with EliteXC but has told MMANews.com in the past that he is open to working things out with the company.

The main factor sticking out amonsgt others appears to be money as Noons, who was the champ, felt it was unfair for Diaz to be making nearly "three times" the amount of money he was considering he was the champ and Diaz was the challenger.

The November offering from EliteXC is set to house one title fight already as Robbie Lawler will defend his middleweight crown against Joey Villasenor but one way or the other, Nick Diaz appears to be fighting for the lightweight strap, whether it be against KJ Noons or Eddie Alvarez.
 
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RICK ROUFUS: "I STILL HAVE A LOT OF FIGHT LEFT IN ME"
link: http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content3549.html?PHPSESSID=dce1e238d8ad11b8aa2c5dbe90ec5662
"I want to be the only guy to go from all of these different arenas, American Kickboxing, Boxing to Thai Boxing to be successful in MMA. I guess then I will be done; exercised my demons that are still in me…I still have a lot of fight left in me," stated kickboxing legend turned mixed martial artist Rick "The Jet" Roufus as he talked about his upcoming October 11th clash with Hector Ramirez at "Night of Combat II." Check out what he had to say about the fight, his future plans and much more.
 
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EliteXC headed to Reno for Nov. 8 Showtime broadcast

While the majority of the MMA world's attention is focused on Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., for Saturday night's "EliteXC: Heat," the organization itself is beginning to look towards its next EliteXC locale.

Scheduled to be headlined by a Robbie Lawler versus Joe Villasenor middleweight title bout, EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw today revealed to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) the location of the Nov. 8 event.

"We're going to have a huge card in November," Shaw said. "We're going to be in Reno, Nev. It's going to be fantastic."

Shaw also shared some of the emerging details of the card.

"Rafael 'Feijao' (Cavalcante) is going to be on the card," Shaw said. "While we've spoken about Cyrille Diabate, but it's not definitive that that's going to be his opponent."

Shaw said that until an opponent for "Feijao" is determined, EliteXC will not decide whether the organization's first-ever light-heavyweight belt will be on the line.

"Until we have a definitive opponent, we do not know if we will introduce the light-heavyweight title," Shaw explained. "When we are ready to introduce the light-heavyweight title, there is no doubt that 'Feijao' will be in a fight for that title. He's without a doubt the number one fighter that we have in the light-heavyweight division."

Rumors of a bout to contest the lightweight belt recently stripped from former champion K.J. Noons have also been gaining momentum as of late. Both Nick Diaz and Eddie Alvarez have been quoted in various media outlets as having verbally agreed to the fight.

Shaw all but confirmed the proposed matchup between the two.

"If Nick and Eddie are both saying that, then maybe it will happen," Shaw said with a smirk.

Sources close to the bout later revealed to MMAjunkie.com that the bout is indeed signed.

One possible casualty of the previously announced participants for the card is heavyweight contender Brett Rogers.

"Brett Rogers hasn't been decided yet," Shaw said. "We're still talking with his camp. He had a couple of personal issues, and we're just making sure that he has enough time to be prepared. We spoke, and it's nothing else. It's not contracts, it's just a couple personal issues.

"We want to make sure we get the best possible Brett Rogers at all times. If we're able to go with him, then he'll be there."

Shaw said there were tentative agreements in place for two other bouts on the card.

"We have a tentative agreement for Scott Smith to take on Hector Lombard," Shaw said. "I think that would be a fantastic fight.

"And we have a fantastic female fight of Kaitlin Young versus Sarah Kaufman, which is so good it almost belongs on this card. But Showtime deserves some of the best fights also."

The fight card for EliteXC's Nov. 8 Showtime broadcast now includes:

Champ Robbie Lawler vs. Joe Villasenor (for EliteXC middleweight title)
Eddie Alvarez vs. Nick Diaz (for vacant EliteXC lightweight title)
Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante vs. TBA (possibly Cyrille Diabate for EliteXC light-heavyweight title)
Hector Lombard vs. Scott Smith
Fabricio Camoes vs. Yves Edwards
Kaitlin Young vs. Sarah Kaufman
 
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Coleman is "two-faced", says Shogun

Mauricio ‘Shogun’ Rua has a score to settle when he gets his long-awaited rematch with Mark Coleman at UFC 93.

In a recent interview with Fighters Only, Shogun stated that he is back to full fitness and ready for the fight, which he has wanted ever since their PRIDE showdown was halted when Shogun broke his arm during a fall to the mat.

“I've wanted to fight Coleman for a long time, but he kept running away from me,” the light-heavyweight said.

He then revealed that there is a personal element to the fight, which stems from their previous encounter.

“Mark Coleman is two-faced. When I broke my arm whilst falling during our previous fight, he was very nice to my face.

“But then after the fight I heard that behind my back he was saying bad things about me. For that reason, this fight is personal.”

Shogun was a top star in PRIDE FC, but had an inauspicious UFC debut when he lost to Forrest Griffin by rear-naked choke.

However, he is happy to be fighting for the UFC, which he describes as “the biggest and best promotion in the world”.

But he plays down that loss and promises that he will show his best when he fights in the co-headline bout of January’s Dublin show.

“I have had to adjust my training to be able to cope with the cage, but now I just want to put on the best show for the spectators,” he stated.
 
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‘Bang’ Blasts Morgan, Trigg Outpoints Vitale

Duane Ludwig flexed his formidable striking muscle Friday with a punishing TKO over Sam Morgan in just over two minutes at Strikeforce “Payback” inside the Broomfield Events Center in Broomfield, Colo.

The K-1 veteran avenged a 52-second knockout Morgan scored three and a half years ago in the Ring of Fire promotion, much to the approval of his hometown crowd.

Morgan (19-12) wisely clinched and pulled off the takedown at the start of the 165-pound contest, but couldn’t keep the feared kickboxer grounded for long. “Bang” hit his mark less than 30 second later, crushing Morgan with a body shot and dropping him with a right hook before he pounced on Morgan and poured on more body shots. “The Ultimate Fighter 2” alumnus tapped out on his own accord at 2:01.

“I’m such a technical striker that I sit back on that,” said Ludwig, who improved to 17-8. “My partners we’re telling me I wasn’t in the gym. I just had to let it go and I guess it worked out.”

Frank Trigg outworked Falaniko Vitale to earn a well-deserved unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27) in a middleweight co-main bout. Sherdog.com gave all three rounds to Trigg for a 30-27 tally.

At the top, Trigg (18-6) trapped Vitale (26-8) on the fence and fired off elbows and punches, most of which didn’t get through Vitale’s defenses, but certianly won the relentless Las Vegas resident the round. Vitale, who threw few punches throughout the contest, scored only once in the first five-minutes with a single takedown.

In the second set, Trigg stifled Vitale’s attempts to get in the game by keeping close quarters against the fence once again. The Xtreme Couture rep kept busy with punches in bunches, and then tied the Hawaiian up to sneak in rests in between.

Trigg, 37, lengthened his lead with a single-leg takedown at the top of the third. The bout looked nearly in the bag until Vitale landed a whopping right on its feet, then followed up with a takedown. Trigg refused to stay down though, and fended off Vitale’s last rally with a pumping right jab to set up his own takedown at the bell.

Donny Liles ensnared shifty striker Pete Spratt with a modified rear-naked choke to coax out the tapout 1:59 into the third round of their welterweight standoff.

An elusive Spratt optimized his distance early on and peppered Liles with crisp kicks to set up punching combos in the pocket. The barrage didn’t last, however, and Liles found his opening on the canvas as he attempted to end the proceedings with an armbar and than a rear-naked choke before the second-round clock ran out.

Liles quickly nailed the takedown in the final stanza and picked up where he’d left off, switching to a modified choke when Spratt countered the conventional maneuver.

“All my coaches told me don’t stand with him and to try and take him down,” said Liles. “This was kind of a test for myself to see if I could do it more than anything else.”

Luke Caudillo nearly snapped Billy Evangelista’s seven-fight streak just 25 seconds out of the gate with a stiff knockdown, but the Fresno, Calif. native rebounded with gusto to steal away a unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27) after three rounds.

A groggy Evangelista buoyed from a second knockdown in a first tense minute, and managed to win back the round on at least one judge’s scorecard with a flurry of strikes on his turtled opponent at its end.

The American Kickboxing Academy lightweight continued to pick up momentum with an array of kicks, a third-round takedown and a persistent left jab. The performance kept his perfect record unblemished.

“I guess I started out a little too slow, so I got caught,” said Evangelista. “He got a good shot in, but my body kept saying, go, go, go. I just tried to grab whatever I could to get back up and get back in the game.”

Carlos Zevallos also survived an early knockdown at the hands of Andre Walker (1-4) to take a first-round TKO stoppage at 4:49 in his MMA debut. The light heavyweight pair exhibited considerable fatigue during a quiet four minutes that followed the initial ruckus, until Zevallos reversed a late takedown and settled into side control before passing to mount for the finish.

Michelle Waterson (4-3) didn’t disappoint her local contingent, as she nabbed a speedy 1:20 tapout over Tyra Parker (0-2) via rear-naked choke in their 112-pound bout.

The 5-foot-3 dynamo overwhelmed Parker on the fence and battered her with leather and two pinpoint knees to the head. Waterson then jumped Parker’s back and beckoned her to the mat.

In featherweight action, Tyler Toner (7-1) earned a second-round TKO over Ricky Johnson (0-2). Both landed frequently in the first set, though Toner gained footing with outside high kicks, hooks, and knees in clinch as the minutes wore on.

Countering a knee from Johnson with a takedown in the second round, Toney pounded out the 3:44 stoppage from mount.

In other bouts:

Aaron Trujillo def. Haven Torres - TKO 2:59 R1
Turrell Galloway def. Brett Tillis - Submission (Choke) 1:21 R1
Eric Galvan def. Jeremy Malaterre - Split Decision
Alan Gomez def. Jordan Goodwin - Unanimous Decision
Drew Dober def. Lumumba Sayers - TKO 0:16 R1
 
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Matthew Riddle vs. Ryan Thomas added to UFC 91

A bout between "The Ultimate Fighter 7" cast member Matthew Riddle (1-0 MMA, 1-0 UFC) and UFC 87 veteran Ryan Thomas (9-2 MMA, 0-1 UFC) has been added to the nearly-completed undercard of "UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar" according to sources within Riddle's camp.

Featuring a highly anticipated heavyweight title fight between champion Randy Couture and WWE-import Brock Lesnar, UFC 91 takes place Nov. 15 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

Now training with Arizona Combat Sports, Matthew Riddle entered "The Ultimate Fighter 7" with nary a professional fight and surprised his fellow cast members with his raw talent.

After earning his way into the house with a devastating knockout of Dan Simmler, Riddle was eliminated in the next round by Tim Credeur. The 22-year-old returned to earn a hard-fought unanimous decision victory over Dante Rivera in the season's finale.

Thomas made his professional debut in April 2007. The 23-year-old worked his way through smaller organizations in the Midwest, including Courage Fighting Championships and Extreme Challenge.

Thomas had won 10 of hist first 11 bouts before losing to "The Ultimate Fighter 6" veteran Ben Saunders at UFC 87. Six of Thomas nine career victories have come by way of submission. Both of his losses have been submissions due to an armbar.
 
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EliteXC's Jared Shaw responds to latest Dana White outburst

Never one to back away from a verbal battle, EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw has responded to UFC President Dana White's recent scathing outburst directed solely his way.

Shaw recently told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that he was unconcerned with White's labeling of him as a "retard," but understands why others might be.

"Names will never hurt me," Shaw said. "But I'm sure it may have hurt a lot of disabled and handicapped people in this world."

White's original comments were made to NBC Sports.

"There's guys out there in the industry that know what they're doing and run a real business," White told NBC Sports. "ProEliteXC, you think that business is being run well?

"Hey Jared (Shaw), you're $60 million in the hole, retard. Get over it.

"These idiots pop up and they start throwing all this money around, and they think they're going to come out and go head to head and compete with the UFC? It'd be like me starting a fast-food joint saying 'I'm going to take down McDonald's.'"

The battle between the UFC and EliteXC is certainly not a new one. For each of EliteXC's two previous CBS broadcasts, the UFC has offered counter-programming designed to lure away would-be viewers of EliteXC.

The trend started when the UFC ran a two-hour block of programming on Spike TV featuring the ultra-popular Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell concurrently with the May 31 network-television debut of EliteXC on CBS. When EliteXC returned to CBS on July 26, the UFC offered a free replay of UFC 84 as alternative viewing.

That same strategy will be implemented tonight, as fans can choose to view the "EliteXC: Heat" event on CBS, or a replay of UFC 86 -- featuring a light-heavyweight title match between Quinton "Ramage" Jackson and Forrest Griffin -- on Spike TV.

While Shaw understands the business strategies implemented by the UFC, the EliteXC executive took issue with White's politically taboo usage of the word "retard." Shaw also wanted to point out the irony in White's fast-food simile.

"My only message for 'Simple Dana McDonald' is this -- The last time I checked the fast-food industry, the recognized No. 1 global franchising opportunity for a fast food chain was Subway. And their spokesperson's name is Jared."
 
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Tito Ortiz shelved for six months, likely headed to EliteXC

SUNRISE, Fla. -- High-profile free agent light heavyweight Tito Ortiz will be cageside as a guest of EliteXC for tonight's CBS broadcast of "Heat."

And while the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" recently revealed to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that he will be out of commission for the next six months, a deal may be signed this month to bring the former UFC champion to EliteXC.

"Right now EliteXC and myself are in great discussions for the future and working with each other," Ortiz said.

Ortiz made his first appearance in conjunction with EliteXC at Friday's weigh-ins. Although no formal announcement of his presence was made, a buzz quickly filled the room when the 33-year-old was spotted.

Ortiz said tonight's appearance may be far less under the radar.

"I'm here as a guest of EliteXC," Ortiz said. "I'm possibly going to be commentating a fight [tonight]. It's going to be exciting. I can't wait."

In addition to the upcoming birth of twins with girlfriend Jenna Jameson, Ortiz is also slated to undergo back surgery on Monday to repair a nagging injury.

"I'm getting surgery ... for my lower back," Ortiz said. "I've had a problem for the last five years, so I'm finally going to get the surgery done. I'll be out for about six months, but I'll be back to fight for another six years. I'm really excited."

Ortiz explained the surgery was similar to what UFC middleweight Nate Quarry went through in 2006.

"I have a bulging disc between L4 and L5 and S1, so they've got to go in and fuse it," he said. "(It's) the same thing that Nate Quarry got. So I get it done, and I'll be able to wrestle the way I used to wrestle."

Once Ortiz returns, the question remains where he will offer his services.

One surprise competitor in the race for Ortiz's services was the Kentucky-based American Fight League. Ortiz said they have been eliminated from the chase.

"That was just a meeting that came about, and it was no more than that at all," Ortiz said. "They're a start-up company, and they thought that they could throw a few dollars together and persuade someone like me, and expect me just as a fighter. I'm not that guy."

In August Ortiz announced that he was about to sign a deal with Affliction Entertainment, an upstart organization with deep pockets, with what he called a "ground-breaking record contract."

However, Ortiz said Affliction has also recently been ruled out.

"Affliction kind of dampered away just because they just want to pay for a fighter just to fight," Ortiz said. "I'm not that fighter to make a company as the UFC is now and just get paid just for the fights."

A proven draw in the UFC, Ortiz has been involved in some of the most memorable -- and profitable -- shows in UFC history. And while the UFC has recently come under fire for forcibly requiring their fighters to sign a binding licensing agreement, Ortiz said he simply wants to earn a piece of the pie his name recognition earns.

"I look at the whole brand itself," Ortiz said. "I'm a business man. I've got to look at myself as not just a commodity, but a business itself -- Tito Ortiz brand."

Ortiz went on to explain that EliteXC has a solid understanding of what he hopes to accomplish with a new contract.

"I think it's just a percentage of all the way around what my name is going to be in -- merchandising, pay-per-view, gate, everything," Ortiz said. "I want a piece of it just because I'm putting the butts in the seats (and getting) the pay-per-view buys.

"The brand of me the last 11 years, the competition I've been doing, I feel like I got my ass kicked the last 11 years. I've set some historical marks, and now I've set some goals for fighters in the future. Myself, I defended my world title five consecutive times. I've done a lot in the last 11 years that I think a company needs a name like myself to succeed. And EliteXC may be that company."

And Ortiz believes that once his revenue-sharing-styled contract is in place, it may change the landscape of MMA negotiations.

"Once I make the step across and show that the fighters should get more, then maybe fighters will follow me and they will want to get a piece of their name," Ortiz said.

Ortiz said it was possible that a contract may be finished before the end of the month -- a step that would seem to benefit an athlete who will soon succumb to major surgery.

"With EliteXC and CBS and Showtime backing me on this, it's a possibility that we might get something finished before the month's over," Ortiz said. "And the UFC actually has the option to match [any offer]. If they match it, fighters are going to be even more happy because I'll do it with the UFC. But if I don't do it with the UFC, I'll do it with EliteXC and CBS."

While the UFC retains a brief negotiating period when contracts expire with all former fighters, the type of deal Ortiz is describing would certainly not be considered under current UFC contract standards. Ortiz said that's just fine with him.

"I'm really not open to [returning to the UFC] at all," Ortiz said. "I just don't want to work with (UFC President) Dana (White), ever. I've washed my hands clean.

"I'm not going to talk nothing about Dana. I wish him a world of success. I wish him a world of luck in his business and what he does. But it's time for me to move on, I think. It's time for me to grow out of being under an umbrella for the rest of my life. And I'm going to make some great things happen, for sure."

While a deal has not yet been finalized between Ortiz and EliteXC, the upside to the 11-year veteran seems apparent.

"I just added a bunch of new stuff to Punishment Athletics clothing," Ortiz said of his clothing line. "We've got a bunch of new kids stuff, and we added a bunch of women's clothing also. Our brand is growing. We're not as big dogs as TapouT is just yet, but maybe me coming to CBS that will happen."

And when prompted as to whether we would see any of Ortiz's Punishment Athletics branding on tonight's CBS broadcast, the famed fighter may have finally tipped his hand.

"Not yet," Ortiz said. "The deal that I'm signing with them, once it gets done -- it's in blood -- it will be starting from then on."