MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT "OUR MUSIC"

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Aug 20, 2003
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IM GETTING SICK OF PEOPLE TALKING SHIT BOUT NORTHERN RAP HOMIES.WE HAVE BETTER LYRICS BEATS, SHIT CONCEPTS THAN ALOT OF OTHER SHIT OUT THERE.AND NO ITS NOT ALL SCRAP THIS SCRAP THAT LIKE MISS INFORMED MUTHAFUCKERS SAY OUR MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT.SHIT WE HAVE GROWN ALOT JUST IN THESE PAST FEW YEARS.SHIT I PREDICT SOME OF US ARE GUNNA BLOW UP ON SHEER TALENT ALONE.SUPPORT THE HOMIES IF YOU FEELING THE ALBUM BUY THE ALBUM.OH BY THE WAY NORTHERN KALI NIGHTSTALKERS "THA STRANGULATION" IS A HARD ALBUM NO LOVE SONGS NO CROSSOVER BULLSHIT JUST A HARD ALBUM FROM FRONT 2 BACK NO WEAK SHIT.KEEP GOING ON HOMIES CHASE YOUR DREAMS MABY YOULL CATCH 1 OR 2 OF EM....
 
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SMOKIELOCS said:
IM GETTING SICK OF PEOPLE TALKING SHIT BOUT NORTHERN RAP HOMIES.WE HAVE BETTER LYRICS BEATS, SHIT CONCEPTS THAN ALOT OF OTHER SHIT OUT THERE.AND NO ITS NOT ALL SCRAP THIS SCRAP THAT LIKE MISS INFORMED MUTHAFUCKERS SAY OUR MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT.SHIT WE HAVE GROWN ALOT JUST IN THESE PAST FEW YEARS.SHIT I PREDICT SOME OF US ARE GUNNA BLOW UP ON SHEER TALENT ALONE.SUPPORT THE HOMIES IF YOU FEELING THE ALBUM BUY THE ALBUM.OH BY THE WAY NORTHERN KALI NIGHTSTALKERS "THA STRANGULATION" IS A HARD ALBUM NO LOVE SONGS NO CROSSOVER BULLSHIT JUST A HARD ALBUM FROM FRONT 2 BACK NO WEAK SHIT.KEEP GOING ON HOMIES CHASE YOUR DREAMS MABY YOULL CATCH 1 OR 2 OF EM....
I SECOND THAT HOMIE...."NORTENO RAP" DEFINITLY GOTS ENUFF TALENT TO BLOW THE FUCK UP ONE DAY....IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME....AND SUPPORT THE HOMEBOY SMOKIE LOCS AND ALL HOMEBOYRAP MUSIC!!!! THE ALBUM SOUNDS KOO FROM WHAT I HEARD DOWN MY PRIMO BOXER'S PAD HOMIE....MUCH NORTHERN LOVE SAN JONERO,

SHARKZTERO/THE HOMEBOYRAP TEAM
 
Jul 25, 2003
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well i agree wit what u say but really...fuck them haters...take a look at who hates our music..its the lame ass black and whites who wouldnt dare say that shyt anywhere but the net....they hate it cuz they aint never lived or been thru any type of shyt like that....yea our music talks down on rats..and we do it a lot...thats cuz they rivals....fuck the dumb shyt.....we aint bloods or crips man....we aint scared to speak up....feel me??...and its funny when sum no name ass kats hate on norteno rap...cuz really how many albums have u sold?.
 
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eastbayrider510 said:
yea our music talks down on rats..and we do it a lot...thats cuz they rivals....fuck the dumb shyt.....we aint bloods or crips man
exactly! people hate on norte rap cuz its "scrap this and scrap that." like eastbay rider said, scraps are ene's rivals. you dont hear people talk shit when blacks say "kill this nigga, blast that nigga" cuz for the most part, other blacks are their rivals. so whats the difference.
 
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BELLY408 said:
exactly! people hate on norte rap cuz its "scrap this and scrap that." like eastbay rider said, scraps are ene's rivals. you dont hear people talk shit when blacks say "kill this nigga, blast that nigga" cuz for the most part, other blacks are their rivals. so whats the difference.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A RACIAL THING....NOT SAYING YOU SAID THAT BELLY408....I JUST THINK THEY'RE BLOOD LINE IS HATERIZM!!!!
 
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eastbayrider510 said:
well i agree wit what u say but really...fuck them haters...take a look at who hates our music..its the lame ass black and whites who wouldnt dare say that shyt anywhere but the net....they hate it cuz they aint never lived or been thru any type of shyt like that....yea our music talks down on rats..and we do it a lot...thats cuz they rivals....fuck the dumb shyt.....we aint bloods or crips man....we aint scared to speak up....feel me??...and its funny when sum no name ass kats hate on norteno rap...cuz really how many albums have u sold?.
I think it also has to do w/ the fact that people (in general) are followers and will only listen to music that is either a.) Been "approved" by their peers or those they look up to or b.) been shoved down their throats by radio and television - in other words "trend riders".

Just my $0.02
 
Apr 25, 2002
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U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND...U (EASTBAY) SAID YOURSELF...ONLY YALL CAN REALLY RELATE TO WHAT IS BEIN SAID ON ALOT OF NORTE MUSIC....SO...WITH THAT BEIN SAID..HOW U GONNA HIT THE MASSES WHEN CATS CANT REALLY RELATE AT ALL TO THE MUSIC?....IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN NORTE UP AND SCRAPS DOWN(IM NOT SAYIN THATS ALL IT IZ..CUZ ITS NOT..BUT THERES STILL ALOT OF THAT SATURATIN AND OVER SHADOWING THE OTHER TOPICS)...

MY OPINION ON NORTE RAP IS ITS GETTIN BETTER BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE STILL ALOT OF IT THAT IM JUST NOT FEELIN MUSICALLY..AND AINT NO FUCKIN HATE IN MY BLOOD SO DONT EVEN BEGIN TO SPEAK THAT SHIT...BUT IF I DONT LIKE IT IM NOT GONNA BUY IT..OR BUMP IT...AND WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS SO BY ME NOT SUPPORTIN IT DOESNT MEAN THOSE ARTIST SHOULD STOP MAKIN THEY MUSIC..JUST MEANS IF THEY WANT ME TO BUY IT..THEY GOTTA COME WITH WHAT I LIKE

PROPS TO EVERYBODY TRYNA DO YOUR THING..KEEP IT MOVIN AND I WISH U THE BEST OF LUCK
 
Aug 8, 2003
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Mtown Criminal said:
U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND...U (EASTBAY) SAID YOURSELF...ONLY YALL CAN REALLY RELATE TO WHAT IS BEIN SAID ON ALOT OF NORTE MUSIC....SO...WITH THAT BEIN SAID..HOW U GONNA HIT THE MASSES WHEN CATS CANT REALLY RELATE AT ALL TO THE MUSIC?....IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN NORTE UP AND SCRAPS DOWN(IM NOT SAYIN THATS ALL IT IZ..CUZ ITS NOT..BUT THERES STILL ALOT OF THAT SATURATIN AND OVER SHADOWING THE OTHER TOPICS)...

MY OPINION ON NORTE RAP IS ITS GETTIN BETTER BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE STILL ALOT OF IT THAT IM JUST NOT FEELIN MUSICALLY..AND AINT NO FUCKIN HATE IN MY BLOOD SO DONT EVEN BEGIN TO SPEAK THAT SHIT...BUT IF I DONT LIKE IT IM NOT GONNA BUY IT..OR BUMP IT...AND WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS SO BY ME NOT SUPPORTIN IT DOESNT MEAN THOSE ARTIST SHOULD STOP MAKIN THEY MUSIC..JUST MEANS IF THEY WANT ME TO BUY IT..THEY GOTTA COME WITH WHAT I LIKE

PROPS TO EVERYBODY TRYNA DO YOUR THING..KEEP IT MOVIN AND I WISH U THE BEST OF LUCK
Well put..

Ene rap is most often focused on a single group of listeners.. I KNOW... that northerners are skillful enough on the mic too appeal to the general audience but more often then not.. thats not the aim..the aim most often is too spit or produce a hard hittiing album that the homies can bump and feel consumed by tha explicit shit....
 
Apr 16, 2003
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You can't complain if people don't want to listen to your genre of rap. If you want to appeal to outside audiences, you need to make music like shit people want to listen to. It's not really a race issue, it's more about a style. Look at Jay Tee, a latino that done did it fuckin huge. Compare his style to a typical Norte artist, which do you think appeals more to the masses? Beats are my biggest complaint when it comes to northern shit.
 
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Good points made on this thread.

Perhaps many artists are faced with a situation where you have to question your motives. On one end you want to appeal to other homies because that's not only who you can directly relate to but many times who you want to relate to. On the other hand you have to think about the business aspect and think about not limiting yourself to a market. The question then becomes, to limit yourself to one market that you want to appeal to? Or to appeal to other markets and lose the support of people who will generally feel and support you?

Redrum from Deep Sleep is a good example of this conflict. In this album, we didn't want to leave out homies at all. We wanted to put cuts on there that homies could bump. People are still out there banging hard and going strong, so it's only natural that since we also come from that same background that we incorporate that into the music. Then again, for the larger part homies don't feel that twisted shit that Redrum often spits about. The cover for Voices in my Head is not a cover that will appeal to many homies. Many homeboys and homegirls won't give the album a chance because of its cover. When you really listen, the album has a lot of deep cuts on various subjects and is still banging but with an original twist (no pun(s) intended). So in the end, we ended up with a product that is all Redrum and displays his versatility at the expense of not appealing as much to the homeboy market. Then we have Blockmade coming up and that's pretty much the opposite since that's all mostly gangbanging music. Shit, mostly my ass, all gangbanging really.

Then you have artists like Sleepy Santino who have a good product out with a good mix of content with wide market appeal. That really makes you wonder on whether homeboys really are given a chance by the general population.

I know my post seems like I'm plugging these artists but you guys that have heard these artists know it's also true.
 
Jul 25, 2003
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Mtown Criminal said:
U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND...U (EASTBAY) SAID YOURSELF...ONLY YALL CAN REALLY RELATE TO WHAT IS BEIN SAID ON ALOT OF NORTE MUSIC....SO...WITH THAT BEIN SAID..HOW U GONNA HIT THE MASSES WHEN CATS CANT REALLY RELATE AT ALL TO THE MUSIC?....IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN NORTE UP AND SCRAPS DOWN(IM NOT SAYIN THATS ALL IT IZ..CUZ ITS NOT..BUT THERES STILL ALOT OF THAT SATURATIN AND OVER SHADOWING THE OTHER TOPICS)...

MY OPINION ON NORTE RAP IS ITS GETTIN BETTER BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE STILL ALOT OF IT THAT IM JUST NOT FEELIN MUSICALLY..AND AINT NO FUCKIN HATE IN MY BLOOD SO DONT EVEN BEGIN TO SPEAK THAT SHIT...BUT IF I DONT LIKE IT IM NOT GONNA BUY IT..OR BUMP IT...AND WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS SO BY ME NOT SUPPORTIN IT DOESNT MEAN THOSE ARTIST SHOULD STOP MAKIN THEY MUSIC..JUST MEANS IF THEY WANT ME TO BUY IT..THEY GOTTA COME WITH WHAT I LIKE

PROPS TO EVERYBODY TRYNA DO YOUR THING..KEEP IT MOVIN AND I WISH U THE BEST OF LUCK
what i was talking bout homie was these lame ass cats up here on the net and all...talking down on our music when u listen to what they bump.....everything is nigga nigga nigga.....i jus dont see why they being hipocrits....we dont go around saying...damn all black music needs to be ceased...they talk down n they would never in their life say any of the shyt they say online to a homeboy..just like that fagot who calims he from newark...that white doode 5 n dime or whatever his name was.....as soon as sum1 from newark on here said sumthing all the sudden he didnt have a problem with them...fools jus need to realize what they say....
 
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eastbayrider510 said:
well i agree wit what u say but really...fuck them haters...take a look at who hates our music..its the lame ass black and whites who wouldnt dare say that shyt anywhere but the net....they hate it cuz they aint never lived or been thru any type of shyt like that....yea our music talks down on rats..and we do it a lot...thats cuz they rivals....fuck the dumb shyt.....we aint bloods or crips man....we aint scared to speak up....feel me??...and its funny when sum no name ass kats hate on norteno rap...cuz really how many albums have u sold?.

i know people are probably gonna hate on me even more for this cuz i constantly disagree with people when it comes to gangs but you said people havent lived the way you have....why would people wanna hear about ti if they never lived it?
 
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@eastbay..i can somewhat understand what u mean....and yea your right the hypocrisy among rap listeners/rap artist alike is gettin ridiculous... me personally..for me to bump some str8 up norteno rap..it has to be the BEST quality wise..meaning them scrap killa lyrics and the production is just so clean i cant help but bump it..but for the most part thats not the case IMO....but like i said..its gettin better..i just wish northern rap FANS/Supporters.....were more open with criticism becuz sometimes thats what is needed..but i know for damn sho alotta norteno rap listeners are too damn scarry to say when they arent feelin some shit...not always there fault tho cuz im sure alot of artist are over sensitive and dont wanna hear a damn thing but "damn that is the tightest shit i ever heard Ene u the best"..but u know if some artist hear a lil constructive criticism on there product its a good chance maybe they might take a step to improve if they feel its reasonable..but its like cats egos are too large and they wanna take shit too personally....theres always room for improvement and that goes for all genres of rap music..not just northern slump....

for the record i dont listen to bloods n crips bangin on wax albums ..only certain artists from every set that i personally feel are touchin on more aspects of shit ..example...Awax...Gangsta Dre....Cbo/lynch....Woodie...Shadow..Never...
 
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IM JUST BEING STRAIGHT OUT... I AINT HATIN... BUT MAJORITY OF UR RAPPERS DO BE TRYNA BE ALL HARD ON THEIR SONGS... AND HOW U SAID NOT ALL OF U SAY "SCRAP THIS SCRAP THAT"... MAJORITY DO... IN EVERY SONG U ALWAYS HEAR THAT WORD... BUT THE ONES THAT DONT... IM REALLY SURPRISED
 
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I_Criminal_E said:
IM JUST BEING STRAIGHT OUT... I AINT HATIN... BUT MAJORITY OF UR RAPPERS DO BE TRYNA BE ALL HARD ON THEIR SONGS... AND HOW U SAID NOT ALL OF U SAY "SCRAP THIS SCRAP THAT"... MAJORITY DO... IN EVERY SONG U ALWAYS HEAR THAT WORD... BUT THE ONES THAT DONT... IM REALLY SURPRISED
so let me ask U something ene.......which homeboy R U actually feeling out of all of them....just curious nomas....tu sabes?
 
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TELL U THE TRUTH ESE... I AINT FEELIN NONE... I DONT HAVE ANY SONGS OR CDS FROM ANY NORTENOS... BUT WHEN I GO INTO SOME CHAT ROOMS ON YAHOO... THERES ALWAYZ NORTENOS IN THERE THAT BUMP NORTHERN RAP AND ALL I HEAR IS "SCRAP, SEWER RAT, SCRAPA" AND SHIT... IT CAUGHT MY EAR CAUSE OF THAT BUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A WACK ABOUT IT... WAS THAT THEY RAPPED HELLA SLOW... I REMEMBER ONE LINE THOUGH AND IT MADE ME LAUGH CAUSE I CANT BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD BE THAT STUPID TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS... "U FUCKIN SEWER RATA U SMELL LIKE BUTT"... THEY ACTUALLY SMELL SURENOS??? LMFAO THAT AINT NORMAL
 
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