Mayweather vs Pacquiao May 2nd [official]

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Manny saying floyd bought most the tickets for the fight and not having a press tour...floyd trying to make it seem like its pro floyd fight fucken phony....the whole boxing world riding with manny...i wish they made a press tour to show that phony he has no fans he nothing but market hype
 

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Are they doing a 24/7 or All Access episodes for this? If so, then the fight will appeal big to the casual fan's. That's how Floyd got so big. This fight will sell w/o the big tour promo's. Commercial's, Radio's and internet are gonna sell the hell out of this fight. Not to mention the mainstream fights on t.v. and cable are going to be promoting it crazy as well.
 
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Manny saying floyd bought most the tickets for the fight and not having a press tour...floyd trying to make it seem like its pro floyd fight fucken phony....the whole boxing world riding with manny...i wish they made a press tour to show that phony he has no fans he nothing but market hype
is there any limits to your hating? He has a ton of fans, your just as delusional as Battle
 
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Ask anyone who doesn't watch boxing, when this fight will be on.
They will tell you they didn't even know they were fighting, probably don't care, nor would they ever spend $100 to watch it.

Like poster said above. They need to get people who would never buy a boxing PPV, to buy this PPV. Obviously boxing, fight fans, and general Asian's will buy it just because. You want the fat fuck who just watches football and eats cheetos to spend his truck driving money on this shit.
 

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Manny saying floyd bought most the tickets for the fight and not having a press tour...floyd trying to make it seem like its pro floyd fight fucken phony....the whole boxing world riding with manny...i wish they made a press tour to show that phony he has no fans he nothing but market hype
LMAO! So now that Floyd is fighting Manny which you said he never would I see you shut mouth on him ducking Manny lol. Now you come up with him being fake for buying tickets and having no fans lol. Thats all you can come up with after he proved you wrong? I wonder what you are gonna do after he beats Manny the one guy you and everyone else said he was afraid of lol. To funny dog. Keep the hatin and laughs comin pimp. Got Em!!
 
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Are they doing a 24/7 or All Access episodes for this? If so, then the fight will appeal big to the casual fan's. That's how Floyd got so big. This fight will sell w/o the big tour promo's. Commercial's, Radio's and internet are gonna sell the hell out of this fight. Not to mention the mainstream fights on t.v. and cable are going to be promoting it crazy as well.
HBO is doing a 24/7 for Pacquiao and Showtime is doing an All Access for Mayweather. Details regarding the programming have not been announced yet and it's March 3rd. Rumors I heard are only 2 episodes for each. So even here the promotion is light. You'd think they'd go all out with promotion for this. Strange.
 

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HBO is doing a 24/7 for Pacquiao and Showtime is doing an All Access for Mayweather. Details regarding the programming have not been announced yet and it's March 3rd. Rumors I heard are only 2 episodes for each. So even here the promotion is light. You'd think they'd go all out with promotion for this. Strange.
2? the fuck. they coulda milked this for at least 10 episodes...each.
 

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Dan's full recap of making Mayweather-Pacquiao:
How Mayweather-Pacquiao was made - ESPN



When pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. finally put pen to paper and showed the world a photo of the contract he signed on Feb. 20 for his long awaited mega fight with Manny Pacquiao -- a deal agonizingly in the making for more than five years -- it was a moment many thought would never happen and it was cheered by sports fans around the world.


Perhaps no one was happier than CBS Corp. president and CEO Leslie Moonves, the central figure in getting the deal done during a personal effort that lasted nearly a year.


It began with the help of a waiter and a boxing trainer. It involved bringing together enemies Bob Arum of Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, and Mayweather adviser Al Haymon. It included getting rival television networks Showtime, which Moonves oversees, and HBO to make a deal for a joint pay-per-view broadcast. And it ended with everyone counting down to May 2.


That is when Mayweather and Pacquiao will meet to unify their welterweight titles, to determine once and for all boxing's No. 1 fighter, pound for pound, and to crown the king of the era at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. It is perhaps the biggest fight since the first legendary showdown between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier on March 8, 1971, at New York's Madison Square Garden.


Moonves is hailed by those on both sides of the complicated deal as the steady, guiding force who was able to keep things from falling apart. One person involved referred to Moonves as "the adult in the room." Another called him "the straw that stirred the drink" when it came to dragging the talks over the finish line.


"I tip my hat to Les. This would not have happened without his perseverance and his unique relationships," HBO chairman and CEO Richard Plepler told ESPN.com. "We were more than honored and delighted to work closely with him to make it happen. It would not have been possible without his energy throughout the process."


Stephen Espinoza, executive vice president and general manager of Showtime Sports, and Arum don't agree on much, but they do when it comes to how critical Moonves was to making the deal.

"One of the main reasons why this deal got done, as opposed to deals in the past, was because Leslie Moonves was a part of the process," Espinoza said. "He was deeply committed to making this deal and was someone that all parties in this negotiation really respect. He was really the catalyst for seeing this through and refused to take no for an answer from any side."


Said Arum: "He was the guy who really wanted to make it happen. He has enormous experience and talent in this area. This wasn't his first rodeo. It never would have happened without him. Trust me, it would never happen.


"Les was the difference, in my opinion, on why it happened this time and not other times we tried. But you never look back at the road that you took. You always look at the result -- and we got a fight done didn't we? -- so yeah, it was worth it."


Moonves was right in the middle of getting the issues worked out between the Mayweather and Pacquiao camps as well as instrumental in hammering out a deal for the joint pay-per-view telecast between Showtime (which has Mayweather under exclusive contract) and HBO (which has an exclusive deal with Pacquiao). It's just the second time they have worked together on a pay-per-view fight, the other being the 2002 record-breaker between then-heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis (who was signed to HBO) and former champion Mike Tyson (who was signed to Showtime) in what was the highest grossing fight in history at the time.


Moonves, 65, described himself in an interview with ESPN.com as a boxing fan for "my whole life." As a kid, his favorite fighter was heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson. As an adult, it was middleweight champion Marvin Hagler.


"I remember listening to Floyd Patterson fights on the radio growing up in New York," Moonves said. "We listened in dismay as he got destroyed by Sonny Liston twice. I loved Patterson; my father loved Sugar Ray Robinson. And I liked Hagler a lot. I was a Marvin Hagler fan. I'm definitely a boxing fan."


Moonves is also one of the most powerful people in television and one of the few with the direct ability to help make the fight since CBS is the parent company of Showtime. Moonves also had a vested business interest in getting the deal done. Most see the fight as a slam dunk to break every revenue record in boxing history, and many estimate that it will gross more than $400 million. But Moonves said that in addition to business, as a boxing fan, he needed to see this fight made for the sake of the sport.
 

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"This will be huge. So, yes, there was a business interest in getting this done," Moonves said. "But I also felt the importance of this fight for the boxing industry and for the sport. That kept me going. This was more than just a business deal to me.


"You'd have to be born on Mars not to know that the world wanted this fight. We have this deal with Floyd and it's in the back of everyone's mind: How do we make this deal happen?"


It wasn't easy, as past history has shown. Mayweather and Pacquiao were close to deals at various times, including the first time around in late 2009 and early 2010. Every deal point was agreed to except the method of drug testing, so the deal fell apart. Until 2013, both fighters were with HBO, albeit without exclusive contracts, but that did not help efforts to make the match.


In February 2013, Mayweather left HBO, his career-long network, and signed a six-fight, 30-month deal with CBS/Showtime. It was announced as the "richest individual athlete deal in all of sports," worth more than $200 million. Mayweather went about fighting other opponents, as did Pacquiao, and they looked like they might never get together. But their falling pay-per-view numbers and continued public demand for them to face each other kept the fight front and center, especially for Moonves, who still owed Mayweather two more fights that would pay him more than $30 million a pop. So last spring Moonves set his plan in motion to try to make the fight. He thought he could lure Pacquiao to Showtime, unaware that in May he signed a five-fight contract extension with Top Rank that included HBO exclusivity to his fights through the end of 2016.


This is where the waiter and trainer come in.


Moonves is a frequent diner at Craig's, a Los Angeles restaurant, where he has gotten to know the waiter who serves him regularly.


"He's always there. Nice guy, Gabriel Rueda," Moonves said. "One day he says, respectfully, 'I know you're a big boxing fan and I know you're involved with Showtime. My son trains with Freddie Roach. We've got to get this fight together. Freddie would love to get together with you.' I said, 'All right, let's set it up.'"


Roach, of course, is Pacquiao's Hall of Fame trainer and owner of the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood, where Rueda's college-age son trained as an amateur boxer. Rueda told Roach that Moonves was interested in meeting with him. They met for a drink in late May, a few days after Memorial Day, at Scarpetta, an Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills.


"Freddie said, 'I want the fight to happen, Manny wants the fight to happen,'" Moonves said. "We had a good talk and I realized it wouldn't get done without Bob."


Roach said that Moonves was leery of Arum, whom he had known socially for many years -- even vacationed with -- but felt burned by him in a previous Pacquiao deal and hadn't spoken to him since. In 2011, Arum shook up the boxing industry when he took Pacquiao from HBO to Showtime for his PPV fight with Shane Mosley.


Roach said that Moonves told him he expected it to be the first of three Pacquiao fights, but after the Mosley fight Arum took Pacquiao back to HBO and there were hard feelings.


"Les wanted to meet with Manny because he thought his contract with Bob was over, and so he reached out to me through [Rueda]. The waiter told me Les wanted to get a hold of me," Roach said. "We had our first meeting at a fancy Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills. He said, 'Let's go sit at the bar.' He ordered a drink and I ordered a bottle of water and we talked about Manny's future and he wanted to know if I could get Manny in front of him.


"I told him you can't do that because Manny is with Top Rank. He thought the contract was over. He said Bob promised him two more fights [after the Mosley fight] and 'I'm not going to meet with that mother f-----.' He was mad at Bob for not giving him the fights he thought he owed him. I told Les, 'It would be really good to talk to Bob. You need to let everything go and talk to him.' He said, 'I'm not kissing his ass.' It wasn't going very well. I told Les, 'Let's make this happen. You can make this happen.'"


After the meeting, Roach said, he called Arum to fill him in.


"I called Bob up and said, 'I met with Les and he wanted to meet with Manny but I told him Manny re-signed with you," Roach said. "Bob said, 'F--- him.' Bob was mad at Les too. But I said to myself if I can just get these two together that's the best way for the fight to happen."


Arum lives in Las Vegas but also has a second home in Los Angeles, not far from Moonves' Beverly Hills home and, ultimately, Roach helped set up a pivotal 45-minute meeting that took place at Arum's home in June.


"When we got there they shook hands," Roach said. "They were going over ideas and they agreed that they could work it out between HBO and Showtime and that Les could deliver Mayweather and, of course, Bob could deliver Manny. The only thing I said to them is that they should get somebody neutral to negotiate the fight, like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton. They told me to go f--- myself, but when we walked out they had their arms around each other and I said to myself, 'This fight's gonna get made.' They just needed to talk."


While Moonves and Arum stayed in touch -- with Moonves filling in those who needed to know at Showtime and Arum doing the same at HBO -- Mayweather and Pacquiao were both going to fight other opponents in the fall. Arum and Moonves agreed to reconvene after their bouts.


Mayweather (47-0, 26 KOs), 38, outpointed Marcos Maidana in their Sept. 13 rematch at the MGM Grand and Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs), 36, fought for the second time at the Venetian in Macau, China, knocking down Chris Algieri six times and winning a near-shutout decision on Nov. 22.


With both fighters winning and public and media demand for the fight still unrelenting, the next hurdle was to get Arum and Al Haymon, Mayweather's adviser, to negotiate terms of the bout -- not an easy task considering they despise each other.


Arum was Mayweather's promoter from the time he turned pro in 1996 until he left him in 2006, having done 35 of his first 36 fights. It was an acrimonious split with Arum feeling as though Haymon was responsible for coming between them. Haymon negotiated a clause in Mayweather's contract under which Mayweather could buy it out for $750,000, which he did, vowing to never work with Top Rank. For years, Mayweather and Arum have belittled each other in the media.


For most of the negotiation, Moonves dealt with Arum and Haymon individually, taking messages back and forth between them. In addition to having patched up his friendship with Arum, Moonves also has an excellent relationship Haymon, with whom Showtime has been doing most of its fights.
 

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The absence of a 24/7 for this is crucial. If they were smart, they should've agreed to run 24/7 on CBS leading up to the fight. All these smart dudes and they couldn't agree on that? That stuff is crack as far as tv watching goes even though their individual stories are totally played out.
 
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Credit Canelo Alvarez for making the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight possible....credit Oscar Dela Hoya, Les Moonves, Bob Arum, Freddy Roach, Manny Pacquiao, HBO, Kontz, 50 Cents, the fans for making the fight happen...credit all of them for pushing the fight into reality. But one man who is left out if this equation is gonna shine come May 2nd...and he is gonna do it in spectacular fashion...just like he did to Canelo...he is going to come forward and take the aggression away from the aggressor...and leave the brawler in no mans land unable to fight off his back foot...helpless by the 5th - 6th round...because there is no plan B...only a boxing lesson that will progressively become more embarrassing as the fight continues...and it will remind EVERYONE WATCHING why we call this sport...boxing. Easy work.
 
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And the mind games and tricks begin.


Roach Says Haymon Blocking Pacquiao's Sparring Picks
Posted by: Edward Chaykovsky on 3/4/2015 .



By Edward Chaykovksy

According to Freddie Roach, trainer of WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, their sparring selections are being blocked off by manager/adviser Al Haymon, who works with WBC/WBA champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. The two fighters will collide in a mega-fight unification on May 2nd from the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Roach claims he is hiring sparring partners who are stylistically similar to Mayweather, but Haymon's staff members are calling the hired fighters and offering them more money to simply stay home.

“I'm hiring sparring partners, Al Haymon's people calls them up and offers more money for them not to come. [But] I'm not worried about those guys,” said Roach to ABS-CBN News. “We got four really good sparring partners for Manny for this fight, Mayweather look-alikes.

“We started our game plan five years ago but we changed it a little bit. Definitely there will be some adjustments. I'm confident that we'll win the fight and this will be the biggest fight night of all our lives. The guy is undefeated, he's a very good boxer and he's the most talented fighter we'll ever face. He's tricky also... he's intelligent as a fighter. I believe we need to fight the perfect fight."
 

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They don't need to waste money on promo shit unless the promo shit is something that also has the ability to justify the $100 price tag. This has been the most talked about fight for how many years now? No need to waste money, just do a stop or two and that's it. In fact, they can spin no promo or little promo into big promo. "This fight is so dangerous, this fight is so competitive, neither figher can do a tour because they are training in the gym and pushing their bodies, yada yada yada."
 
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