Manny Ramirez rejects LA's offer lol
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FUCK EM!!! LET EM GO SOMEWHERE ELSE...
Dodgers have options, but Manny may not
by Ken Rosenthal
Updated: February 3, 2009, 11:13 AM EST
The Dodgers could sign outfielder Adam Dunn, second baseman Orlando Hudson and left-hander Randy Wolf for the amount of money they are offering left fielder Manny Ramirez -- maybe less.
Three quality free agents for the price of one 36-year-old superstar -- not a bad exchange.
The Dodgers, suitably intrigued by the possibility, are talking to the representatives of each of those players, major-league sources say.
But the team wants to exhaust its options with Ramirez before proceeding with an alternate plan.
The Dodgers' latest offer -- one year, $25 million, a contract that would give Ramirez the second-highest salary in the sport -- appears to be a first step toward such an end game.
Ramirez, through his agent, Scott Boras, quickly rejected the offer, according to the Los Angeles Times. If Dodgers officials proceed with Plan B, Ramirez could be left with the Giants as perhaps his only suitor -- unless, perhaps, he wants to play for the Nationals.
The risk of losing Ramirez to the Giants is that the Dodgers would face his wrath 18 times a year -- in the uniform of their biggest rival, no less.
Not to worry.
Ramirez, hitting in the middle of the Giants' weak lineup, might never see a strike. Barry Bonds, surrounded by better hitters, rarely did in his latter seasons in San Francisco.
Just picture Ramirez taking walk after walk while playing in chilly temperatures in a pitcher-friendly park at a salary far below what he desires.
Could happen, if the Dodgers drop out of the bidding.
At that point, Ramirez seemingly would be at the Giants' mercy, and perhaps left with no choice but to accept a contract for one or two years at say, $18 million per season.
Such a deal would make him miserable, perhaps as miserable as he was in his final days in Boston -- the place where he needed to escape rather than submit to the tyranny of two $20 million club options.
If Ramirez gets less than the Red Sox might have paid him, look out. He destroyed his reputation to force his way out of Boston. Accepting a paycut would compel him to ask, "Why the heck did I bother?"
The question might be best put to Boras, who was accused of orchestrating the entire get-out-of-Boston charade to earn the commission on Ramirez's next contract.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Manny just doesn't have too many options.
The Dodgers are not operating in a vacuum in their pursuits of other free agents, particularly if they're preparing to offer only one-year contracts.
Wolf should be theirs by the end of the week now that the Mets have re-signed free-agent lefty Oliver Perez. But Dunn presumably is drawing other interest and Hudson would prefer to play for one of the New York teams.
Dunn probably does not want to accept a multi-year deal from the lowly Nationals, but might be inclined to take a superior one-year offer with the right contender -- say, the Red Sox or Yankees.
As for Hudson, neither the Mets nor Yankees currently has an opening at second base, but he seems to be banking on one of those clubs pursuing a creative solution.
No matter, the Dodgers have at least $25 million to spend in a buyer's market. They can pick and choose.
If they can't get Dunn, there's Bobby Abreu. If they can't get Hudson, there's Orlando Cabrera. Heck, they might even get away with waiting on Cabrera until after the June draft to avoid forfeiting a high pick.
The point is, the Dodgers have options.
More options, it seems, than Ramirez.
Dodgers have options, but Manny may not
by Ken Rosenthal
Updated: February 3, 2009, 11:13 AM EST
The Dodgers could sign outfielder Adam Dunn, second baseman Orlando Hudson and left-hander Randy Wolf for the amount of money they are offering left fielder Manny Ramirez -- maybe less.
Three quality free agents for the price of one 36-year-old superstar -- not a bad exchange.
The Dodgers, suitably intrigued by the possibility, are talking to the representatives of each of those players, major-league sources say.
But the team wants to exhaust its options with Ramirez before proceeding with an alternate plan.
The Dodgers' latest offer -- one year, $25 million, a contract that would give Ramirez the second-highest salary in the sport -- appears to be a first step toward such an end game.
Ramirez, through his agent, Scott Boras, quickly rejected the offer, according to the Los Angeles Times. If Dodgers officials proceed with Plan B, Ramirez could be left with the Giants as perhaps his only suitor -- unless, perhaps, he wants to play for the Nationals.
The risk of losing Ramirez to the Giants is that the Dodgers would face his wrath 18 times a year -- in the uniform of their biggest rival, no less.
Not to worry.
Ramirez, hitting in the middle of the Giants' weak lineup, might never see a strike. Barry Bonds, surrounded by better hitters, rarely did in his latter seasons in San Francisco.
Just picture Ramirez taking walk after walk while playing in chilly temperatures in a pitcher-friendly park at a salary far below what he desires.
Could happen, if the Dodgers drop out of the bidding.
At that point, Ramirez seemingly would be at the Giants' mercy, and perhaps left with no choice but to accept a contract for one or two years at say, $18 million per season.
Such a deal would make him miserable, perhaps as miserable as he was in his final days in Boston -- the place where he needed to escape rather than submit to the tyranny of two $20 million club options.
If Ramirez gets less than the Red Sox might have paid him, look out. He destroyed his reputation to force his way out of Boston. Accepting a paycut would compel him to ask, "Why the heck did I bother?"
The question might be best put to Boras, who was accused of orchestrating the entire get-out-of-Boston charade to earn the commission on Ramirez's next contract.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Manny just doesn't have too many options.
The Dodgers are not operating in a vacuum in their pursuits of other free agents, particularly if they're preparing to offer only one-year contracts.
Wolf should be theirs by the end of the week now that the Mets have re-signed free-agent lefty Oliver Perez. But Dunn presumably is drawing other interest and Hudson would prefer to play for one of the New York teams.
Dunn probably does not want to accept a multi-year deal from the lowly Nationals, but might be inclined to take a superior one-year offer with the right contender -- say, the Red Sox or Yankees.
As for Hudson, neither the Mets nor Yankees currently has an opening at second base, but he seems to be banking on one of those clubs pursuing a creative solution.
No matter, the Dodgers have at least $25 million to spend in a buyer's market. They can pick and choose.
If they can't get Dunn, there's Bobby Abreu. If they can't get Hudson, there's Orlando Cabrera. Heck, they might even get away with waiting on Cabrera until after the June draft to avoid forfeiting a high pick.
The point is, the Dodgers have options.
More options, it seems, than Ramirez.
i agree to a point. but, you have to consider the brand which each athlete is. the team makes all the money. jersey's sold team gets paid. attendance, team gets paid. team on tv team gets paid. the athletes have to protect their brand or the owners will have a monopoly. big names like a rod, manny and so forth are brands. people pay high dollar for those brands. and when a team gets to own your brand you get to say what its worth. so while manny being manny is somewhat crazy, you have to respect the fact he is preserving his brand which will be worthless in 3 years. he wants a 4th year for his brand. its quite simple when put into those terms.
I DON'T CARE WHO I WAS.....25 MILLION 4 A YEAR IS ALMOST OUTRAGEOUS....WHAT ABOUT THE PLAYERS WHO USED 2 ONLY MAKE 250,OOO 4 BUSTING THEIR ASS BACC IN THE 70'S & 80'S....I DON'T THINK ANY PLAYER WHO DOESN'T HAVE A CRYSTAL CLEAR TRACC RECORD IS WORTH THAT MUCH....RAMIREZ IS NOT RELIABLE...HE COULD WALK OUT AT ANYTIME.....HE JUST KNOWS GETTING THAT 100+MIL DEAL MAKES HIM LOOK BETTER...IF I OFFERED SOMEONE 25MIL & THEY REJECTED MY OFFER......I'D PROBABLY HAVE HIM WHACCED FOR 1% OF THAT THE NEXT DAY...(JUST MY OPINION)
As a Giants fan, I'd love to see Manny in San Francisco. I just think its REALLY doubtful. The Dodgers are just waiting for someone else to offer him that 3rd/4th year and then they'll come back with something more. They have no reason to outbid themselves right now. They know that Manny will sell merchandise and tickets as well as make them a contender in the west with ok pitching. They have a shitty deal with TV revenue so they know they're not gonna make the money back there, so I can see why they're just kind of low balling him right now.