Manny Pacquiao vs. Brandon Rios Nov. 23rd Live From China
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If you get offered a fight two different times Manny both times career high payday, and you turn them down who's fault is it?? Mayweather has made $80-100 million his last fight without Manny. Manny is the clown that will go down in history ducking The mega fight over randomly testing. Then ducking another career high payday to get put to sleep by your arch enemy Marquez and going broke on taxes. The more people get caught with random testing Bum Bum Rios. Lol. The worst Manny looks for ducking testing. Remember Manny has not KO'ed anyone since Mayweather wanted that random test. Manny better fight Mayweather before he retires or he will get it bad in history.
Lol @ murdering Marquez. That was an even fight before the brutal ko. Marquez had already scored a viscious 10-8 round and I think I had it 2-2 goinginto the 5th which I believe was the ko round. Also before Mayweather called Pac out he was brutally ko'ing folks period. After that he may have scored a knock down or two but never had anyone nearly hurt as he did when he was juicing before the accusations. Nice try kid. Got Em!!
Look at the guys Pacquiao has fought though since stopping Hatton and Cotto.
Clottey - never KOd, defense is near impossible to penetrate.
Bradley - never KOd.
Marquez - never KOd.
Rios - never KOd.
Mosley - never KOd.
The one guy who had been stopped once before was Margarito but he was obviously much bigger and had 20 pounds on Pacquiao. Regardless Pac ended his career by destroying his face.
There has also been a bit of a decline of Pacquiao from simply getting older and being a bit shop worn. He's had a lot of wars and fighting pro since age 15. He has a lot of mileage on his body and you can see he's lost a step or two.
Clottey - never KOd, defense is near impossible to penetrate.
Bradley - never KOd.
Marquez - never KOd.
Rios - never KOd.
Mosley - never KOd.
The one guy who had been stopped once before was Margarito but he was obviously much bigger and had 20 pounds on Pacquiao. Regardless Pac ended his career by destroying his face.
There has also been a bit of a decline of Pacquiao from simply getting older and being a bit shop worn. He's had a lot of wars and fighting pro since age 15. He has a lot of mileage on his body and you can see he's lost a step or two.
Did Bradley fight Pacquiao in a war like he did against Ruslan? Cmon man, Bradley stood and traded toe to toe against Ruslan he did not fight that way against Pacquiao, or Marquez.
Just use common sense. Look at the opponents Pacquiao has been fighting. None besides Margarito have ever been KOd. It's irresponsible of you to throw around juicing claims because he hasn't scored a KO since Cotto and Hatton just look at the opponents.
Just use common sense. Look at the opponents Pacquiao has been fighting. None besides Margarito have ever been KOd. It's irresponsible of you to throw around juicing claims because he hasn't scored a KO since Cotto and Hatton just look at the opponents.
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What do you mean excuse? Did Bradley fight toe to toe with Manny trading punch for punch? Have you not seen the Ruslan fight? Bradley fought like in idiot in those rounds he got beat up he just stood there trading shot for shot with a slugger. Did he do that against Pacquiao or Marquez?
So i guess we can apply the same logic to other fighters who have moved up in weight over the years. Floyd KOd everyone at 135 now he hardly KOs anyone. Juicing! Hopkins KOd 80% of his opponents at 160 up to Oscar but hasn't had a KO at LHW. Juicing!
So i guess we can apply the same logic to other fighters who have moved up in weight over the years. Floyd KOd everyone at 135 now he hardly KOs anyone. Juicing! Hopkins KOd 80% of his opponents at 160 up to Oscar but hasn't had a KO at LHW. Juicing!
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Dude Manny hasnt moved up. He been at 140-147 for a while now. His last couple of ko's were at these weight classes so what do u mean moved up? Of course fighters ko more guys at lower weight classes but Floyd isnt a ko artist type fighter. Yes he got ko's early in his career off of accurate punching but Many was this supposed beast, a knockout kingpin and then all of a sudden he ko's no one after allegations. Floyd and B-Hop never had allegations so what timeline are u going from? Sorry if I am hitting a nerve talking about your boy Manny but every sees it and knows its not a coincidence. Not every fighter Manny ko's went toe to toe with him so again thats just an excuse. Got Em!!
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No only idiots would make that kind of baseless conclusion. Yes manny moved up and is obviously a small dude fighting at a bigger weight class then he probably should be. He's never scored a KO at welterweight. He's had two stoppages but never a KO (oscar quit and the ref stopped the Cotto fight in round 12). Pacquiao has never failed a drug test or has been tied in anyway to PEDs, that's factual. You're basing your argument off pure speculation.
Bhop has had PED allegations before and so has Floyd, but as with Pacquiao none of it was based on facts.
The only thing Pac has is his refusal to participate 100% in Floyds drug testing demands years ago (pac wanted a cut off date). No different from Hopkins refusal against Pascal rematch or Andre Ward's recent refusal against Rodriguez but of course there are double standards.
Bhop has had PED allegations before and so has Floyd, but as with Pacquiao none of it was based on facts.
The only thing Pac has is his refusal to participate 100% in Floyds drug testing demands years ago (pac wanted a cut off date). No different from Hopkins refusal against Pascal rematch or Andre Ward's recent refusal against Rodriguez but of course there are double standards.
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This forum is a giant circle jerk of Pac haters who stoke eachother off any chance they can so nah I'm not going to participate in that shit. Talk about facts or don't talk at all stop cheerleading. Brandon Rios tested positive, Pacquiao tested clean yet you got the typical people talking about Pac Juicing? Lol
No only idiots would hide who they really like lol. When has Floyd had ped allegations and what drove it? Manny was knocking people out left and right and then comes allegations and his power leaves lol. Cmon man. TKO is just the same as a ko. He hasnt had either since allegations so that still doesnt help your argument. Its ok that u love Manny just admit it. Got Em!!
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That pretty well sums up that you haven't follow Floyd his whole career. He was considered to be a really good puncher early in his career. He had hand problems as he moved up. You can't expect Floyd, or any non-heavyweight for that matter, to knock people out when they fight at their every day weight. Pacquiao has to gain weight to get close to 147 as well. You can't dog him for that. He's never been a big one punch type of puncher, ever. He used to knock dudes down all the time but they nearly always got back up. That's how Floyd's power used to be too. They'd knock them down with quick and precise punching with snap on the punches. Usually that'll cause knockdowns but not knockouts. That's why Floyd could knock Corrales down 5 times but he got back up, or Pac knocked Morales down 3 times in 3 rounds and they get back up. It sucks getting hit like that, but they weren't putting people to sleep unless they were fighting Ricky Hatton
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BUT, if you were going to make an accusation, Rios alleged failed his VADA testing due to PED's in his first fight using Alex Ariza. Also, the Pacquiao camp refused to use VADA testing, but all of the sudden agreed to it now that Ariza is gone. If you're going to make an accusation, make one with some concrete evidence lol
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Who am I hiding that I like? Lmao
SecondsOut Boxing News - Thomas Hauser - The Myth and the Reality of Floyd Mayweather Jr
Simple question has he had a knock out since moving up to 147? Quitting on a stool and a pitty referee stoppage is not a knock out. The guys he's fought at 147, has any of them been KOd before besides Margarito?
SecondsOut Boxing News - Thomas Hauser - The Myth and the Reality of Floyd Mayweather Jr
Simple question has he had a knock out since moving up to 147? Quitting on a stool and a pitty referee stoppage is not a knock out. The guys he's fought at 147, has any of them been KOd before besides Margarito?