Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito Nov 13th, Cowboys Stadium
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Ariza Concerned: "Manny Pacquiao's Weight is Too Low"
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
MANILA—Pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao looked “very good” in sparring at the Wild Card Gym but his weight was a cause of concern for strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, BoxingScene.com/Inquirer learned Sunday.
With 13 days remaining before Pacquiao’s showdown with Antonio Margarito at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium in Texas, Ariza said the Filipino champ’s reported weight of 146 lb “is too low.”
At that weight, Ariza said Pacquiao was 10 pounds lighter than Margarito, who is expected to come in at 165 on fight night with the Pacman climbing the ring at 150.
The showdown for the WBC super welterweight title will be held at a catch weight of 151 lb.
Ariza noted that Pacquiao was impressive against his three sparring partners because “they are more competitive and move well and fight at a faster pace” which suits Pacquiao whose forte is his speed.
However, the question of the size and punching power of his sparring partners, Richard Holloway, David Rodela and Raymund Beltran compared to the 5-foot-11 power-punching Antonio Margarito surfaced.
Ariza had to abandon the conditioning program designed to build Pacquiao physically to take on the bigger and taller Margarito after Filipino trainer Restituto “Buboy” Fernandez and another assistant Nonoy Neri noted that Pacquiao had become sluggish and the extra poundage slowed him down.
Ariza said that despite efforts to change Pacquiao’s preparation he would “not worry about that and support him all the way.”
“It’s too late. We can’t change anything in the next ten days,” he added.
Meanwhile, trainer Freddie Roach has yet to tap undefeated light middleweight Vanes Martirosyan (28-0, 17 KOs) as well as rising middleweight star Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin (21-0, 15 K’s) to spar with Pacquiao.
Sources said the celebrated trainer may not wish to risk anything at this stage against opponents who could conceivably hurt Pacquiao with their speed and power.
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
MANILA—Pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao looked “very good” in sparring at the Wild Card Gym but his weight was a cause of concern for strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, BoxingScene.com/Inquirer learned Sunday.
With 13 days remaining before Pacquiao’s showdown with Antonio Margarito at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium in Texas, Ariza said the Filipino champ’s reported weight of 146 lb “is too low.”
At that weight, Ariza said Pacquiao was 10 pounds lighter than Margarito, who is expected to come in at 165 on fight night with the Pacman climbing the ring at 150.
The showdown for the WBC super welterweight title will be held at a catch weight of 151 lb.
Ariza noted that Pacquiao was impressive against his three sparring partners because “they are more competitive and move well and fight at a faster pace” which suits Pacquiao whose forte is his speed.
However, the question of the size and punching power of his sparring partners, Richard Holloway, David Rodela and Raymund Beltran compared to the 5-foot-11 power-punching Antonio Margarito surfaced.
Ariza had to abandon the conditioning program designed to build Pacquiao physically to take on the bigger and taller Margarito after Filipino trainer Restituto “Buboy” Fernandez and another assistant Nonoy Neri noted that Pacquiao had become sluggish and the extra poundage slowed him down.
Ariza said that despite efforts to change Pacquiao’s preparation he would “not worry about that and support him all the way.”
“It’s too late. We can’t change anything in the next ten days,” he added.
Meanwhile, trainer Freddie Roach has yet to tap undefeated light middleweight Vanes Martirosyan (28-0, 17 KOs) as well as rising middleweight star Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin (21-0, 15 K’s) to spar with Pacquiao.
Sources said the celebrated trainer may not wish to risk anything at this stage against opponents who could conceivably hurt Pacquiao with their speed and power.
Pavlik is always getting injured.
Rios was supposed to fight on the Arce's undercard here in Anaheim.
Oh well...
Khan looked like he was doing a number on Manny. I've just been reading so many negative things about Manny's camp progress, now a weight issue. The strange thing is that Vegas lines aren't budging due to the rumors.
Rios was supposed to fight on the Arce's undercard here in Anaheim.
Oh well...
Khan looked like he was doing a number on Manny. I've just been reading so many negative things about Manny's camp progress, now a weight issue. The strange thing is that Vegas lines aren't budging due to the rumors.
They say that pavlik is a drunk, straight up. They said he always had a problem with drinking and stuff but after he lost to hopkins, then he had that accident and cut himself really bad putting in windows in his house, then the staph infection. He hasn't been the same. I wonder if BHOP ever dragged him to the gym like he swore he would.
As much as I swore I wouldn't do this, I think Margarito takes this fight. I realized today that Pacquiao doesn't look very good above 140lbs after fighting Hatton. He looked great against DLH and I know he dominated Cotto and Clottey but he's not the same fighter. He wasn't bouncing on his toes, his in and out movement wasn't really there and he struggled mightily when Cotto was actually coming forward and pressing the action and he was getting hit cleanly and it had a noticeable effect on Pac when Clottey landed. Pac landed the good shot that put Cotto down in the 4th and Cotto was hurt, no doubt, but Cotto was going away for the rest of the night trying to survive. Margarito will continue to come forward all night. Pac doesn't carry the weight very well. I know he threw 1200 punches against Clottey, but Clottey wasn't throwing punches at all. It's different throwing 1200 punches against someone continually pressuring you or someone that you're having to get out of the way of their punches, Pac could literally punch at will in that fight.
Pac is also having issues in general but I think his conditioning is going to be an issue. He was breathing harder against Cotto than I'd ever seen him and he actually took a full minute off and camped out on the ropes early in the fight, very uncharateristic of him. If he's not 100% at this weight against this style of fighter that is coming downhill all night, it's going to be a problem. I change my prediction to Margarito winning in a good action fight. Better than I previously expected. Wouldn't be surprised to see him stop Pac.
As much as I swore I wouldn't do this, I think Margarito takes this fight. I realized today that Pacquiao doesn't look very good above 140lbs after fighting Hatton. He looked great against DLH and I know he dominated Cotto and Clottey but he's not the same fighter. He wasn't bouncing on his toes, his in and out movement wasn't really there and he struggled mightily when Cotto was actually coming forward and pressing the action and he was getting hit cleanly and it had a noticeable effect on Pac when Clottey landed. Pac landed the good shot that put Cotto down in the 4th and Cotto was hurt, no doubt, but Cotto was going away for the rest of the night trying to survive. Margarito will continue to come forward all night. Pac doesn't carry the weight very well. I know he threw 1200 punches against Clottey, but Clottey wasn't throwing punches at all. It's different throwing 1200 punches against someone continually pressuring you or someone that you're having to get out of the way of their punches, Pac could literally punch at will in that fight.
Pac is also having issues in general but I think his conditioning is going to be an issue. He was breathing harder against Cotto than I'd ever seen him and he actually took a full minute off and camped out on the ropes early in the fight, very uncharateristic of him. If he's not 100% at this weight against this style of fighter that is coming downhill all night, it's going to be a problem. I change my prediction to Margarito winning in a good action fight. Better than I previously expected. Wouldn't be surprised to see him stop Pac.
hopkins took pavlik's soul. And yes, the drinking rumors were real. As to the extent of his problems with alcohol, I don't know. It was a very bad sign when he fought martinez at 160 and ballooned up to over 180 pounds on fight night. That usually tells you you're not staying in good shape between camps.
This was a video pavlik did against drinking & driving. From what I heard, kelly did it as a favor, as he got into some trouble with alcohol but they let it slide, as long as he did community shit. Read he got into a couple bar fights. all rumors of course.
This was a video pavlik did against drinking & driving. From what I heard, kelly did it as a favor, as he got into some trouble with alcohol but they let it slide, as long as he did community shit. Read he got into a couple bar fights. all rumors of course.
ChrisHoggalypse, finally someone watched the Cotto fight, and saw what I saw. Pac-man was dead tired with his mouth open from round 9 to the end of the fight. If he didn't get tired he would've knocked Cotto out. I wanted Mayweather to expose Pac-Man, but I'm cool with Brick Fists doing it. One thing we all know is that Rock Hands will not back down and will bring the fight to Pac-Man for 12 rounds. I still say Manny wins but people will start to see why dude is ducking Mayweather. 2-0-Sixx, How many time do we have to tell people that Pavlik soul belongs to B-Hop.
man, that was strategy. That was a mini rope a dope move and he knocked cotto down as a result. That had nothing to do with conditioning or anything, that was pacquiao trying to prove to cotto he can take everything he's got. That was machismo.
As for pac being out of breath against cotto in the later rounds, I didn't see it. All I saw was frustration from cotto running and that's it. A couple times pac put his hands on his hips as to say, "stop running" and he looked bored of chasing cotto around the ring. Big different from being out of breath.
The only time I ever saw pacquiao tired was AFTER the clottey fight. He was obviously out of breath and fatigued during the interview.
As for pac being out of breath against cotto in the later rounds, I didn't see it. All I saw was frustration from cotto running and that's it. A couple times pac put his hands on his hips as to say, "stop running" and he looked bored of chasing cotto around the ring. Big different from being out of breath.
The only time I ever saw pacquiao tired was AFTER the clottey fight. He was obviously out of breath and fatigued during the interview.
I didn't say he faded in the fight or ran out of gas but he was clearly more winded than he had previously been when the action was going on. Not when he was chasing him from the 5th round on. He didn't knock cotto down from his "mini rope a dope" either. Both knockdowns were from punches cotto didn't see coming in the middle of the ring
